Dusty Butt 1,000km adventure ride

**magicfairy** · 23rd February 2007, 12:00

Originally Posted by PLUG

It would be easy enough to set up a dump spot for the key if we are that spread out. In the scheme of thing this is not a biggie to over come.

That sounds like an idea, I guess last one thru brings the key back. We dont want to hold you guys up if we fall behind.

**cooneyr** · 23rd February 2007, 12:39

Jeeze - I'm away two days and look what happens. Number of points to respond to so

1 - Thanks very much Pevs for the sticker. I'm personally really happy with it so am going to investigate printing some more over the weekend. (Pevs - go get yourself a venture bike and join in - you know you want to (get the bike that is)

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2 - Cost - yes it is $10 still. I'll collect money on the Saturday before the ride and hand it over with the key as we go through the Rainbow (homestead is near the Nelson end just of the road).
3 - Three people have returned the access disclamer forms - just a reminder to the others.
4 - As far as I'm aware there is one gate. This is the steel tube gate slightly on the Nelson side of the old homestead.
5 - Regarding the key and spread out riders. Warewolf's suggestion (which I agree with) is that each rider waits at the gate and hands the key to the rider behind. This is a safe way to do this so there is no confusion where the key is hiding etc and getting stuck behind a locked gate. I'm keen to return the key with the money so am happy to be last away from the gate.

I've had a go at the Roll Charts and have asked Plug and Warewolf to have a look at it as this is my first attempt at putting one together. I've been given a number of points to work on so I'm currently working on revision two. Subject to a second look from P and WW I hope to have this finished and posted sometime next week. This should given you plenty of time for the newbies to understand how they work and ask questions where necessary.

While talking of roll charts - if you make your own holder, my tip is to make sure the rollers are not too hard to turn. Paper is not that strong in tension and turning the roller with the paper, to loosen the tension, before rolling it onto the next will be a pain. Remember the rollers need to have just a little resistance or else they will move with the vibrations when riding.

Cheers R

**Transalper** · 23rd February 2007, 12:57

3 out of 4 trips i've done off season only one gate was locked. On the 4th trip two gates were locked.
Either way, passing the key along to the next rider until the last one comes through works. If the second gate is locked it just means a forced regroup until the key catches up.

**RedKLR650** · 25th February 2007, 00:55

Originally Posted by Steam

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Check out the following post :-)

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Cheers, Stu

**NordieBoy** · 25th February 2007, 07:47

So...
Anyone in Nelson willing to teach "Gravel riding techniques" to a total gravel wuss?

I'd ask my brother but know his response and I'm not fond of the idea of winding it out fully open on gravel corners

**RedKLR650** · 25th February 2007, 09:37

Originally Posted by NordieBoy

So...
Anyone in Nelson willing to teach "Gravel riding techniques" to a total gravel wuss?

I'd ask my brother but know his response and I'm not fond of the idea of winding it out fully open on gravel corners

Gee Nordie, looking at your wee Avater photo, wuss probably wasn't the first description that sprung to mind

Stu

**NordieBoy** · 25th February 2007, 13:34

Well today I was called a wuss, a nanna and several others as I was pootling my XR250 round a MX fun day track.

Usually incorporated into sentences like...
"Wind it open you ......"
"Just crank it in the corners you ......"
"Go faster you ......"

Unfortunatly it's usually my brothers girlfriend who is saying these hurtful things.
If I ever catch up to her I'll tell her off big time

**Orangedog** · 28th February 2007, 21:24

Hi, when is the cut-off for rego ? Just found out about the ride, sounds like fun although a sheepies may be a definite.
If your needing to get labels printed let me know (I have a label company)

**cooneyr** · 28th February 2007, 21:44

Originally Posted by Orangedog

Hi, when is the cut-off for rego ? Just found out about the ride, sounds like fun although a sheepies may be a definite.
If your needing to get labels printed let me know (I have a label company)

There is no cut off re joining us. Only thing I need is for people to fill out the rainbow disclamer so I can fax it to the station before we go through. We can probably fax it from somewhere of the day if desperate.

Bugger about the labels - I just went and organised printing today. They are going to cost $3 each and I'm getting 20 printed. They will be proper bumber stickers and will be laminated so should be pretty durable.

I'd say youre going to need a very good sheepy on a KLX400 -narrow hard seats have they (say with a yoda voice - makes much more sence LOL)

Cheers R

**cooneyr** · 1st March 2007, 09:27

Righty - I have "finished" the roll charts. First 6 of 10 are attached. Sorry about the size for those on dial up but I wanted to make sure they werent too pixelated for printing. Number of points about them : -
1 - These are not field tested. As a result the drawings of the intersections may be slightly wrong and the distances will be wrong.
2 - The intent of intersections drawings should still be correct i.e. first left at intersection etc.
3 - The distances need to be treated with caution as they have been measured from electronic topographical maps and it is likely that most bikes will read differently. If we treat the distances as + or - about 10% we should be OK. This means 1km error in 10km or 5km error in 50km.
4 - To try and deal with the distance problem I have lots of resets. Where there is a "RESET" in a cell with an turn and distance instruction this means Zero your Trip Meter at that location. The following cell is always "RESET Zero Trip Meter" which is a reminder should you forget.
5 - The * next to the distance in the lower right of each cell means that the next instruction is within 1km or less. Basically if you see an * then roll to the next instruction ASAP or even before you have completed the current instruction.
6 - Emergency contact number to be sorted but will get you to write it in before we start.
7 - To make sure we do 1000+ km I've left a space for start and end km readings from you Odometers.

Fingers crossed these work but if you all have a rough idea of the route the charts should only be reminders or for detail on unfamiliar roads. Just try and remember the general direction you are trying to head if the charts get confusing on the day.

Tips for putting the charts together: -
A - The faint lines either side of the cell are cut lines so that the chart is not to wide for a small click clack. You may need to check the width before cutting for a different box.
B - When sticking the strips together make sure they are square else the roll of strips may end up to wide for your roll chart box.
C - Stick both sides of the strips with tape so there are no loose edges to get caught and the whole roll is stronger and doesn't pull apart.

Cheers R

**cooneyr** · 1st March 2007, 10:12

This is sheets 7 to 10 (total of 10 sheets).

Though some might be interested in a pic of Jacobs Ladder which is between cells number 126 and 127. Good gravel on this section of road

I'm away from the office on Jury Duty next week so would appreciate Rainbow Disclaimers by tomorrow night.

Cheers R

**NordieBoy** · 1st March 2007, 13:19

Originally Posted by cooneyr

Though some might be interested in a pic of Jacobs Ladder which is between cells number 126 and 127. Good gravel on this section of road

There is another thing about Jacobs Ladder

Beside the road for quite a distance is a clay surface, wider than the road and BIG sweeping berms in the corners

**cooneyr** · 1st March 2007, 13:45

Originally Posted by NordieBoy

There is another thing about Jacobs Ladder

Beside the road for quite a distance is a clay surface, wider than the road and BIG sweeping berms in the corners

Yes yes but we are responsible and dont go off into forests when we are not suppose to though aye

Was going to mention at some stage. From memory some of the corners are seriously off camber though i.e. 30 degrees the wrong way. Drag the pegs going round a corner at 10 kph.

Cheers R

**NordieBoy** · 1st March 2007, 17:23

Originally Posted by cooneyr

Yes yes but we are responsible and dont go off into forests when we are not suppose to though aye

Was going to mention at some stage. From memory some of the corners are seriously off camber though i.e. 30 degrees the wrong way. Drag the pegs going round a corner at 10 kph.

Just go on that bit to the right of the road in the pic

**cooneyr** · 1st March 2007, 22:01

Rang the Rainbow Station tonight re the locked gates. There are two locked gates so any idea of hiding the key or handing it back to the person behind is not going to work. I think the way to do it is to get the first person to unlock the gates but shut (not lock) them when through and the last person shuts and locks the gates. I'd still like to get my hands on the key before I leave the last gate so want to last away from it.

One more thing - check your head light alignment. Went for a blat tonight in the dark and it made a diferance between feeling uncomfortable at 60kph to comfortable at 80-90 kph on a gravel road. Definatly worth the trouble.

Cheers R