Obtaining owner details from a plate no.

[WRT]

I've seen this mentioned a number of times in various threads, and its got me wondering. Based on the assumption that any old tom dick or harry can get your home address by looking up your rego number, I figured that it might pay to start a thread to discuss the various options available to help everyone protect their bikes.

It was mentioned by someone that you could use a fake address, I'm not sure this is wise as I would rather my mail went to someone I knew, and who I could trust not to use that info unwisely (or dob me in for providing false details).

My thought is that you are probably best to use the address of a family member that you can trust, and whom you wont be putting in danger by using them. For example, no way would I register anything to my Grandma's address - I would not want some would be bike theives turning up around at her address in the middle of the night looking for my bike.

Another good way to do this might be to register it to a PO Box number. Two grey areas about this tho - I'm not sure this is legal as someone has commented that you need a physical address (can a cop/lawyer comment please?), and also I have heard that it's possible to look up the details of the owner of a PO Box. Does anyone know if this is true as well?

I've read in other threads that you need to provide photo ID when going into the Post Office to get these details (obviously you dont need to online however). Does the post office record who has looked up your rego? If your bike does get stolen, can you go to the post office and ask them to tell you who has accessed your rego number?

[Str8 Jacket]

Anytime ANYONE looks up rego details it is recorded. This includes those of us that have access to LTSA details through work.
Also when I worked as a fines collector it was amazing how many people had given false addressess for their vehicles that had hundreds of $$ worth of fines that they did not know about and because of that the fines had reached enforcement level (extra $100 PER fine). So if you dont want to give your address definately give the address of someone you trust so that they can collect your mail, ie fines. Then you wont be surprised to find out that you owe $1000 worth of speed camera fines dating from months or even years ago...

[ManDownUnder]

Can't you register a vehicle to a PO Box - just have the mail sent to your work or something...?

[WRT]

Is it possible for someone to get access to the list of people who have looked up their details? Surely this must be available under something like the information act, but how would you go about it?

[Str8 Jacket]

Is it possible for someone to get access to the list of people who have looked up their details? Surely this must be available under something like the information act, but how would you go about it?

hmm, not too sure give LTNZ a call - 0800 108 809 (from memory). Surely you can request it, but it may cost?

[Str8 Jacket]

Can't you register a vehicle to a PO Box - just have the mail sent to your work or something...?

As far as I know you can. But you may have to give a physical addy as well. Have a look on the LTNZ website that may tell you...

[Colapop]

What about if you're in a 'witness' protection programme (seriously) like a woman escaping from an abusive relationship? How do they register vehicles and shit? There must be some way to avoid being found.

[Fub@r]

They used to be ok with a postal address, but now they also insist on a physical address. I've never given my correct details for various reasons whether it be a sooped up car or trying to avoid my ex which is the current situation

As for fines they are not sent to the registered owners details, they are sent to the driver license details for the registered owner, I know this from experience As I was using my parents PO Box number as a postal address but the fine had been sent to the address that was recorded when I got my new photo license which I hadn't bothered to update Argued in court on this point and eventually they took off the court costs and all I had to pay was the fine. As my argument was that the details on a rego have to have more weight when you see a discrepancy between registered owner address and license address as the rego is updated every 6 months.

Another suggestion is you could register your vehicle to your employers address as a solution, especially if you have a secure carpark.

What about if you're in a 'witness' protection programme (seriously) like a woman escaping from an abusive relationship? How do they register vehicles and shit? There must be some way to avoid being found.

There is no way to stop your details being handed out at the post office

[Str8 Jacket]

As for fines they are not sent to the registered owners details, they are sent to the driver license details for the registered owner, I know this from experience

Trust me, they are sent to the registered owner of the vehicle.

[placidfemme]

There are loop-holes in this... for example, prison guards (and possibly police) have their private vehicles registered with the prison they work for, that way if criminals get thier rego number and try to track them down it leads back to the prison...

Edit: perhaps you could talk to your boss and see if you can do a similar thing and register your bike to the company however they do it...

[Fub@r]

Trust me, they are sent to the registered owner of the vehicle.

With my camera ticket it was sent to my driver license details not the postal address given on the registration details

Also if someone knows your name and you have a mortgage it would take me 2 minutes or less to see where you live. If someone wants to try it PM a name to me and I'll PM back your address

[Str8 Jacket]

With my camera ticket it was sent to my driver license details not the postal address given on the registration details

If you have updated your driver licence then they will send it to the latest updated address. But as a rule they send the fine to the registered owner of the vehicle. I havent worked in MOJ collections for 4 years to know nothing!!

[Fub@r]

If you have updated your driver licence then they will send it to the latest updated address. But as a rule they send the fine to the registered owner of the vehicle. I havent worked in MOJ collections for 4 years to know nothing!!

My camera fine was 6-7 years ago, maybe they have changed the rules since then. When was contacted I was told they used the driver license details of the registered owner regardless.

[Str8 Jacket]

My camera fine was 6-7 years ago, maybe they have changed the rules since then. When was contacted I was told they used the driver license details of the registered owner regardless.

Ah, maybe. You'd have to ask LTNZ.... I dont work directly with people who have fines anymore. Much more pleasent working "behind the scenes".

[Filterer]

The first post seemed to me to say that if you register NOT to your home address then it makes it harder for someone to track you down.....

I guess two reasons being either your a clown on the road and someone wants to tell you off or

Stop someone seeing your shiny bike driving past and track it down to your home address and then give you a visit in the middle of the night.....

Either way it defeats the purpose of registering it to your work address, all they have to do is turn up in work hours......

And if you have used your real name on the rego then as Fub@r suggested its as esay as 1,2,3 to do a credit check and get an address... im sure there are hundreds of other ways..... i know for a fact that it could be done through the auckland city council computer systems if you know the right people

The only solution would be to setup a 'shell' coporation that had a physical address and register all your bikes/cars and friends cars/bikes etc to that company under the company name.....seems a little excessive however