FFS! This is just ridiculous! MUST READ - OPINIONS PLEASE

**Timaa** · 16th February 2008, 23:00

apparently on the news a few nights ago a man is being taken to court after flicking his sons ear

as punishment for being rude.

does this not strike you as outrageous?

its not like he hit the kid or abused him, let alone assaulted him

WTF!!!!

thoughts opinions welcome, flaming and preaching NOT!!!

Tim

ps: if someone has a link can they post it cause im too lazy. lol

**Bikernereid** · 16th February 2008, 23:07

Completely insane!! The reason that SOME kids are so bloody unruley these days is lack of discipline in the home and at school.

A flick on the ear is nothing and certainly does not constitute child abuse!! When are we going to stop letting governments act like nannies and let the parents take responbsibility for raising thier own children using thier own ethics, moral and values?

Originally Posted by Timaa

apparently on the news a few nights ago a man is being taken to court after flicking his sons ear

as punishment for being rude.

does this not strike you as outrageous?

its not like he hit the kid or abused him, let alone assaulted him

WTF!!!!

thoughts opinions welcome, flaming and preaching NOT!!!

Tim

ps: if someone has a link can they post it cause im too lazy. lol

**Bren** · 16th February 2008, 23:08

Yeah...its frikkin ridiculous....if ya gonna go to court for flickin yer kids ear then why not just go the whole hog and bash the little shits senseless.....
.....worked for me as a kid!

....bloody PC Bullshit is ruining this country

**Bikernereid** · 16th February 2008, 23:11

+1

I was a bloody nightmare for my parents as a teenager and I would hate to be a parent with an adolescent like me now!! And if anyone says that grounding children works then think again.

We has a progression of punishments depending on what we had done wrong. Believe me one of them I only got once and learnt not to cross that line again. Punishments were always dished out with a discussion regarding what we had done wrong and why it was wrong. I hasn't done me any harm and I am not emotionally, physically or psychologically scared as a result of it.

Originally Posted by South3rn Rid3r

Yeah...its frikkin ridiculous....if ya gonna go to court for flickin yer kids ear then why not just go the whole hog and bash the little shits senseless.....
.....worked for me as a kid!

**MIXONE** · 16th February 2008, 23:12

Fuck it .Might as well just kill them.At least then there is no witness

**Badger8** · 16th February 2008, 23:17

Apparently someone (grandmother, or uncle, depending on which version you hear) got taken to court for yanking a kid backward who was about to walk in front of a car.
WTF were they supposed to do, let the idiot get killed? that'd be okay by Aunty Helen?
Whether it's true or not i dont know, but i DO know there's far too many cases around of completely justified minor things landing parents who give a stuff in court. THIS is why we have so many youth associated problems. If all we can do is say "no no, dont do that little jimmy", then they're gonna grow up doing whatever the hell they want, knowing full well there's nothing we can do to stop them. Look at the freakin punks out there pretending to be gansters, tagging everything in sight, beating up random people, abusing old ladies, and just making a fuckin nuisance of themselves. What the hell are these kids gonna grow up to be like?

Fuck i hate to think...

*Breathe* Rant over...

**Bikernereid** · 16th February 2008, 23:23

I hate to say it but there will be more of these kids who grow up into crims and end up in prison which means that there is going to be more work for people like me!!

Originally Posted by Badger8

Apparently someone (grandmother, or uncle, depending on which version you hear) got taken to court for yanking a kid backward who was about to walk in front of a car.
WTF were they supposed to do, let the idiot get killed? that'd be okay by Aunty Helen?
Whether it's true or not i dont know, but i DO know there's far too many cases around of completely justified minor things landing parents who give a stuff in court. THIS is why we have so many youth associated problems. If all we can do is say "no no, dont do that little jimmy", then they're gonna grow up doing whatever the hell they want, knowing full well there's nothing we can do to stop them. Look at the freakin punks out there pretending to be gansters, tagging everything in sight, beating up random people, abusing old ladies, and just making a fuckin nuisance of themselves. What the hell are these kids gonna grow up to be like?

Fuck i hate to think...

*Breathe* Rant over...

**Timaa** · 16th February 2008, 23:23

and imagine what the cops would have said if they had let the kid walk in front of the car? cant seem to do anything right anymore. i say good on the guy for flicking the ear, there should be a reasonable distinction between abuse and parental dicipline. granted i dont think anyone other than parents has any right at all to punish or dicipline. but still. the old horse ( aunty helen ) can go get a make over for all i care, OH WAIT, she already did and still looks like a horse. lol. i say move to aussie where the govt actually apologises if they do something wrong. albeit several hundred years later. lol

**Timaa** · 16th February 2008, 23:24

oh and it was the cops choice to arrest the man and charge him in the first instance...

**James Deuce** · 16th February 2008, 23:35

Originally Posted by Timaa

albeit several hundred years later. lol

There were still organised Aborigine hunts in the 1960s.

The apology isn't for past wrongs.

The ear flick thing is old news. This isn't the first instance of people being prosecuted for disciplining children in public since the "Anti-Smacking" bill was passed, and as for the comments about the Police "choosing" to prosecute, when are you idiots (harsh, but for goodness sake people!) going to understand that the Police enforce laws that are passed by people you hand a mandate to at election time? They don't make them up on the spot, and in the instance of a criminal act they don't get to exercise a great deal of discretion, certainly nowhere near as much as for a traffic offense.

**Jiminy** · 17th February 2008, 00:29

Originally Posted by Jim2

as for the comments about the Police "choosing" to prosecute, when are you idiots (harsh, but for goodness sake people!) going to understand that the Police enforce laws that are passed by people you hand a mandate to at election time? They don't make them up on the spot, and in the instance of a criminal act they don't get to exercise a great deal of discretion, certainly nowhere near as much as for a traffic offense.

Ahem, pardon a non New Zealander here, but your comment implies that we have a choice at election time. Sure, there are a few choices, but I personally still struggle to see a GOOD choice to vote for.

Btw, when will New Zealand be a democracy and the people have a right of say that goes beyond a selection of short-sighted political parties? (Jiminy goes hiding

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**Jiminy** · 17th February 2008, 00:42

It reminds me of an old story that happened in a local supermarket back in Europe. Bear with me for a minute.

Mom and Kiddy go to the supermarket, fill in their trolley, then join a queue at the counter. Kiddy decides that it's fun to repeatedly push the trolley in the legs of the lady in front. The lady asks nicely Kiddy to stop, then again, then again, then asks Mom to do something. Mom's reply goes along the line of "let the kid be, you shouldn't traumatize him, you're being unreasonable".

Here comes a punk teenager, army boots and green straight hair (description might vary) sitting in the queue right behind Mom and Kiddy. He calmly takes the yoghurt he was about to buy, opens it, and empties it at the top of Mom's head. When Mom turns around speechless, his says something like "nobody dared to traumatize me when I was a kid".

One of my friends witnessed the scene. I wish I would have seen it

PC is going waaaaaaaayyyy too far me think!

**pete376403** · 17th February 2008, 01:06

Why does everyone lame "auntie Helen" for this piece of shit legislation. Green MP Sue bradford owns this one. When the Green party come canvasing for your vote this year, let them know what you think of both bradford and the bill.
(and it's not really stopping kids from being abused to death, is it?)

**Donor** · 17th February 2008, 07:08

Originally Posted by pete376403

Why does everyone lame "auntie Helen" for this piece of shit legislation. Green MP Sue bradford owns this one. When the Green party come canvasing for your vote this year, let them know what you think of both bradford and the bill.
(and it's not really stopping kids from being abused to death, is it?)

Cos Hell-in told her mob of uber puppets to vote it in.

Something about labour being shit house and not looking likely to get another session of legislation making after this year without fellating other parties...

**mrchips** · 17th February 2008, 08:25

God help us all, might as well install iron bars over the windows now ! 5 year olds up my street ask for fags + tell me to f..ck off already...... little shits.

I won't be having kids as i don't appreciate being told how to run my household thanks or having other little shits influence my kids & not being able to do anything about it.

That is all.

cheers