Pakeha world views?

**trump-lady** · 31st March 2009, 02:15

Hi all, I have to do a 5 minute DVD on Pakeha world views in a group presentation of 30 mins. I drew Pakeha Worldviews and Im finding it really hard to find short vid clips as you tube wont let you download so Ive been using pictures. (Thats alot of pictures) I thought it would be interesting to see also Kiwi Bikers views on what exactly a "Pakeha Worldview" is. Now Im taking it more as a european worldview, worldwide majority thing but really want stuff from New Zealand.

The topic is for a Bi Cultural Social Work paper and pretty much is asking us to explain how peoples world views can effect social services and practise.

Basically what do you think in terms of values, morals priorities for the majority of whiteys.

Now I know this is ganna be a pisstake, and will ruffle feathers but hopefully Ill get some good pics I can add to the movie and some short vids.

If you dont like it minimise and....as you were

Cheers

**Whynot** · 31st March 2009, 03:08

I think the first question is ...
What is a Pakeha?

**trump-lady** · 31st March 2009, 03:11

Originally Posted by Whynot

I think the first question is ...
What is a Pakeha?

oh boy.... yes I agree thats why I said european cause for real pakeha is just a term for white. Im thinking lets say "westernised ideals" to keep it kosher

**Whynot** · 31st March 2009, 03:16

So you want a "Western European, New Zealand world view" for a Bi Cultural Social Work paper ...

What exactly is that going to achieve?

**trump-lady** · 31st March 2009, 04:47

Originally Posted by Whynot

So you want a "Western European, New Zealand world view" for a Bi Cultural Social Work paper ...

What exactly is that going to achieve?

Hopefully a pass....
The 30 min vid is about worldviews and their impact on social work. the 30 mins has 6 sections. I got pakeha world veiws.

For example, theres conflict in policys at my work, Domestic violence. My agency says the offender is offender and we dont deal with them. Im Maori and this world view doesnt sit well as I think healing a whanau is a whanau process. ( and I have worked with the offender...shhhh) Its also quite feministic and I dont believe DV equals split families. I believe you can have a couple that just needs the right tools to modify their behaviour and they will be fine. Two world views, two perspectives that can cause conflict in my practise.

European world view may mean a family is quite materialistic rather than a Moari worldveiw that mana is more valuable. (of course not all) My own worldview needs to be reflected on to so I dont put my worldview on someone else.

I guess the paper is asking us to reflect on others worldviews and how we as social workers need to realise different worldviews will impact the way we need to practise and the veiws of those we are working with. Which truely it does in my field.

For example. Positivism.... Individualism..... Cultural reproduction....

I want Powerful NZ images just because it will be more engaging to watch

**Whynot** · 31st March 2009, 05:25

You mention "Two world views"
I assume this is Maori and Pakeha?

And you are defining "Pakeha" as white, Western European New Zealanders.

I'm struggling to understand how you can put everyone who falls under that bracket into one group.

Surely then you would have 5th generation kiwis in with recently immigrated British, French, Spanish, German, Dutch, Italian, Australian, American, South African people.
All who could be defined as "white, Western European New Zealanders".

I can guarantee a lot of those sub groups have different views and perspectives on the world.

And what about the rest?
Islanders?
Asians
Indians?
Africans?

Do they not matter?

**Dave Lobster** · 31st March 2009, 05:36

The 'whites' are far from a majority too. Considering how many chinese and indian people there are alone.

They may be a majority amongst the people that are 'getting things done', and be ruling the countries that aren't hitting each other with sticks in civil wars, but they're FAR from the majority.

In 100 years, it's likely there'll be far fewer of them too, with the rate at which they're reproducing, relative to the cultures that live on benefit the world over.

My world view is:
You can't make all none white cultures adopt white culture, just because you tell them to, and because some of them want to assimilate. Whether this is drug smoking, wife beating, baby killing, cannibalism amongst maoris, or memorising whole rafts of information to cheat in an exam amongst the chinese.. or killing your neighbours because their god isn't as peaceful as yours amongst the indians and pakistanis.

Why TRY to make them change to fit into white/western culture, when they don't want to?
Isn't it easier to just remove the western system of welfare and handouts to those that don't want them? It'll save a lot of money for the people who DO want to assimilate and fit in with what can be a nice way to live, for those that want it.

**Korumba** · 31st March 2009, 05:42

Hey Tanya, You can download you tube, just search for “You Tube downloader” and once you have it, your away, I have no idea how to edit them if you need to but I am sure that can be done.

I have shown “Once were Warriors” to 3 people while I have been in the States They all cried and had there vision of New Zealand changed, Same stuff is happening in their own back yards but no one here has made a film that went this far. (I am sure someone will come up with a few) This movie sums up DV well.
Two of the people have Native American blood (one of which has visited NZ the other works for a NGO and is currently in Senegal) and the third person a “Pakeha American” has visited NZ twice while in the Coast Guard.

The Worlds Fastest Indian went over well though....

Good luck with the presentation.

**James Deuce** · 31st March 2009, 06:16

Originally Posted by trump-lady

oh boy.... yes I agree thats why I said european cause for real pakeha is just a term for white. Im thinking lets say "westernised ideals" to keep it kosher

But I'm not European, and neither is anyone of European descent born here. New Zealand "Macro-Culture" is vastly different from any "Macro-Culture" in Western Europe.

**Pwalo** · 31st March 2009, 06:25

I'm not too sure that Kiwi Biker is a good forum to discuss socio-political issues in a meaningful manner. More over I think that the question that you have been given pretty well sums up the reply that your examiner is asking for.

As long as you write about how repressive (and oppressive) the capitalist based western society has been on indigenous culture you'll be fine.

I'm pretty sure that there has been a lot of ink spilled on this question, so a quick search on the interwebby should give you a few papers. Good luck.

**sidecar bob** · 31st March 2009, 06:35

Originally Posted by Whynot

So you want a "Western European, New Zealand world view" for a Bi Cultural Social Work paper ...

What exactly is that going to achieve?

Sounds better than Pakeha, im highly offended by the use of that word.
It is the white version of Nigger.
There would be an uproar if a thread in here was titled Nigger World Views & it went on to have a story about the views of Maori.
Could the title of this thread please be re worded so as not to cause offence.

**Headbanger** · 31st March 2009, 07:12

Originally Posted by Pwalo

As long as you write about how repressive (and oppressive) the capitalist based western society has been on indigenous culture you'll be fine.

You mean to say how a stone age people were lifted out of the mud and given all the benefits of a more advanced culture and squander it with drug, alcohol and child abuse? And have proven that no matter how many policies are made,and how much money is spent on health, education,employment based on racist criteria they still refuse to better themselves?

**Jantar** · 31st March 2009, 07:21

And people wonder why racism is apparent in New Zealand?

**Okey Dokey** · 31st March 2009, 08:25

Guess you may have to look somewhere else to get someone to do your homework for you.

**Trudes** · 31st March 2009, 08:43

Better you than me (In saying that, it sounds like something I'll have to do next year!! ewwww!)
Maybe something to do with the nuclear family ideal that most of us "whiteys" still envisage but seldom achieve; individualism ie. not collective ways of living; self-determination, the things we do are usually to benefit ourselves and our immediate families, not our extended family and future generations; farming and innovation, yes, that is a broad generalisation, but hey why not a picture of a Pakeha with his sheep and dogs and tractor or something.
I hate world view topics.... Buggered if I know what the Pakeha world-view is, how do I view the world? I don't know!