2010 NZ Superbike Road Race Championship dates confirmed

[Whitebait]

Awesome!!!

Looking forward to a full series!

Hampton Downs is gonna be outstanding.

Hope to see more of you on the grid than last year.............

[Peter Smith]

No but I have a far more impressive 'wank medal' of being the 2008 PMCC summer series clubmans champion....do you?

Clubmans medal verses National GP title, are you serious.
You got the name of your medal right though.

Seriously though lets get back to the National rounds this year, if you want to bitch about Pukekohe start another thread, maybe start a club and you could be president of the Puke Haters Club.

Good luck at the Nats this year.

[Biggles08]

Clubmans medal verses National GP title, are you serious.

ummmm....no....are you....really???

Seriously though lets get back to the National rounds this year, if you want to bitch about Pukekohe start another thread, maybe start a club and you could be president of the Puke Hater Club.

There is not really a worthwhile response to this Peter...I have serious issues with the safety of Pukekohe as many others do...I don't make a noise about things just for the sake of it. While others may have differing opinions to mine I still maintain the quicker we move away from racing bikes at Pukekohe the better for the safety of our sport...bring on Hampton Downs for the National Rounds![/QUOTE]

Good luck at the Nats this year.

Thanks...if I end up doing them.

[Tony.OK]

Hell its lucky Paeroa isn't very popular

220+ brushing an elbow on haybales had me tingling...............but I am only a muppet

People even get hurt on a dragstrip, thats racing.

Bring on the Nats......................tell everyone you know!!!!!!!

[malcy25]

And then you proceeded to defend it?!

Whilst you may be correct you just as easily may be wrong... Pukekohe is most probably the single fastest track in NZ. So the incidences you have refered to may have had a differing outcome if similar occurances happened on other slower tracks that have wider exit paths and more run off....or not. We will never know and its a mute point so I have nothing further to add.

No but I have a far more impressive 'wank medal' of being the 2008 PMCC summer series clubmans champion....do you?

3 responses to the 3 paras above....
1) nope.
2) I'm sure the quote "You're not wrong" was coined for me!!
3) I'm also sure it was a highlight of your career.

Can't be arsed really. Back on topic - as I said earlier, I checked and the dates are kosha. Who's riding what, where and doing the whole series? What's the gossip on new bikes and rider changes?

[scrivy]

How much mate ? Buying one will be the only way I get one !!!

5 x GP winners medals, 5 x GP trophies, and 3 x 2nd place GP trophies.

How much you gunna bid mate??

[Kickaha]

5 x GP winners medals, 5 x GP trophies, and 3 x 2nd place GP trophies.

So it must be true then that if you turn up often enough they give you a trophy can't see any other way you would have got yours

[Toot Toot]

Malcy, I dont know who you are, or your experiences with Pukekohe race track. You also do not know who I am or my involvment with motoracing in New Zealand. Lets not get into a mightier than thou competition.
I can tell you that I do have a lot of experience in NZ MotorSport, not just bikes, but A1 GP, V8 Supercars, World Rally etc etc.. (I'm not a flag marshall).
I did not attribute the double fatality on the back straight directly to the track as you implied, but I can tell you it certainly had an influence, it occured right after the kink with no flag marshall points between Castrol and the hairpin to warn riders coming through the kink of a slowing bike.
The incidents on Ford Mountain are directly as a result of poor track design.
Pukekohe is one of the fastest circuits in the Southern Hemisphere, and this alone is a contributing factor in many of the crashes. I know, this is racing but I can tell you this... There are a number of meetings that we are on high alert for and number one is Pukekohe National Superbike Round, followed by Paeroa BOTS, then Dunlop Targa, then NZ V8's, and so on. It is not hearsay, KB rumour, or whatever, it is fact. That circuit is dangerous.

[quickbuck]

Provide me with a tent, and I, and probably many like me, turn around and go home or don't even bother fronting up. Don't need 5 star accommodation, but I don't do tents. We volunteer to give up our weekends to enable you guys to race. Doesn't worry me if I take my toy out and go fishing or riding instead of going and working at the racing to let you play with your toy.

So you aren't in the Territorials then?

[Kickaha]

it occured right after the kink with no flag marshall points between Castrol and the hairpin to warn riders coming through the kink of a slowing bike..

Isn't there a Marshall point on the outside of the track at or near the kink? as I thought they put someone in it after the accident

[Toot Toot]

Isn't there a Marshall point on the outside of the track at or near the kink? as I thought they put someone in it after the accident

Yes ..Bit late tho eh.?


It was there since the first V8 Supercar meeting, but not utilised by most other meetings as it was thought unneccasary when they are stretched enough as it is for flaggies.

[scrivy]

So it must be true then that if you turn up often enough they give you a trophy can't see any other way you would have got yours

Mate, with sweet talk like that, you just wanna be my passenger eh???

You closet Scrivy fan!!!

[malcy25]

Malcy, I dont know who you are, or your experiences with Pukekohe race track. You also do not know who I am or my involvment with motoracing in New Zealand. Lets not get into a mightier than thou competition.
I can tell you that I do have a lot of experience in NZ MotorSport, not just bikes, but A1 GP, V8 Supercars, World Rally etc etc.. (I'm not a flag marshall).
I did not attribute the double fatality on the back straight directly to the track as you implied, but I can tell you it certainly had an influence, it occured right after the kink with no flag marshall points between Castrol and the hairpin to warn riders coming through the kink of a slowing bike.
The incidents on Ford Mountain are directly as a result of poor track design.
Pukekohe is one of the fastest circuits in the Southern Hemisphere, and this alone is a contributing factor in many of the crashes. I know, this is racing but I can tell you this... There are a number of meetings that we are on high alert for and number one is Pukekohe National Superbike Round, followed by Paeroa BOTS, then Dunlop Targa, then NZ V8's, and so on. It is not hearsay, KB rumour, or whatever, it is fact. That circuit is dangerous.

Toot Toot.
Good and well thought out response thanks. I wasn't implying that you attributed the back straight incident to Pukekohe, but that was very much the way it read to meand how I commented. However, you have been able to expand in a manner which has put some good context on it with regards to the flag marshall point, though I'd still contend that that is not necessarily a track design issue as such, but that there were probably any number of contributing factors, which all joined together. These individual issues on their own on the day may be not enough to cause an incident, but combined, did.

I'm guessing you must like your motorsport...!!

Cheers ears

[k14]

I think focusing on the recent years multiple deaths at pukekohe while making good statistics for getting rid of the track they are most likely unrelated to track design. However if you focus on the very bad injuries that have resulted from crashes in recent years then pukekohe is the only track making the statistics there.

Take for instance Avalon Biddles broken femur in March. The only reason that happened was due to the armco being so close. Any other track in NZ and the injuries most likely would have been confined to bumps and bruises. Then you have the multiple guys that have been paralysed, i think the number is 3 or 4 in the last 4 or 5 years. I don't know of anyone else being that badly injured (yes there have been maybe 2 fatalities in recent times at other tracks, again they fall into the "same outcome at any track" category) at another track in NZ in recent times. These again are straight down to poor track design.

I for one am incredible happy that I will never have to race there again. It is a very exhilirating track but as I get a little older I just can't bring myself to ride 10/10ths around there.

[scrivy]

Yes, Puke is CRAP!!
But, I think some people may be less awe inspired when they take a look at Hampton Downs blind up hill corner, with concrete barriers on both sides. Akin to Bathurst.
Great fun in the wet (read NOT) - hopefully they've thought of water runoff, and also marshall points before the blind apex?

Another great car track in the making maybe????