Warning re exhaust systems.

[sAsLEX]

Investment-inschmestvent...the Gov't cares little about the 'investment' people have made....can you imagine them ever seeing the purchase of a device designed to allow driving/riding at a speed over the legal limit as an 'investment'?

Re the convertors, I think RM summed it up quite nicely.

There are statistics that show drivers with detectors crash less......... and we know how much the govt loves statistics...... oh thats right only the ones that serve their needs!

[Motu]

Most of the tampering with emission controls was done on older carburettor cars,these had a shit load of vacuum operated devices that crapped out over time.You just had to disconnect it....and then whatever else it effected.If possible a complete NZ new carb and manifold was fitted.These cars are out of the system now and won't be made to comply with any standard.These days the only tampering is usually to blank off the EGR,mainly on diesels - they stick open or leak,sending exhaust gasses into the combustion chamber,making black smoke.I'm sure you all don't mind the EGR being blanked and stopping black smoke.

The emission standards are not for LTNZ to set,they have already been set....what LTNZ will do is lower the standard as these vehicles are past their service life and don't pass in Japan,they won't here either.

[FLYMO]

reno raynes.. the other movie thats good is harley davidson and the malbro man

[TygerTung]

I'm pretty sure this will come in with the new emission rules - ALL vehicles registered after that date WILL have to comply at date of entry.....and forever after.But almost impossible to police on the existing fleet,as others have pointed out NZ new versions seldom had Cats,yet the same model sourced from an other country would have a converter.I gutted a cat last week....who is to know? O2 sensor before the Cat,no way the computer can pick it up.....emission testing at WoF was dropped as being far too costly and unworkable....ain't gunna happen here.What will happen is a non standard exhaust rule,not OE and you fail.That one can be made to work because it is visual.....and that is all a WoF is,a visual check.

Non oe exhaust system and fail? I can't see that working because toyota probably won't have a oe exhaust for my '75 corolla and then ALL exhaust shops will go out of buiseness unless they can order oe exhausts and fit them?

[James Deuce]

Non oe exhaust system and fail? I can't see that working because toyota probably won't have a oe exhaust for my '75 corolla and then ALL exhaust shops will go out of buiseness unless they can order oe exhausts and fit them?

There will be some truth to that, though I imagine that if you can reasonably demonstrate that the replacement system is no louder than the original you'll be OK.

[Mike748]

Had to replace the muffler and rear pipe work on our 306, dropped into Pitstop and I asked if they could free it up a bit and remove the Cat. (It wasn't allowed to sound like a Boy Racer car though)
They wouldn't remove the Cat as they were unsure of how the new rules were going to work.

[homer]

Surely only talking about that, at this stage?
I would think that although the idea sounds good on paper, that it would in reality be almost as difficult to implement as swapping us to driving on the right.

shit do you mean i cant do that yet .................

[James Deuce]

Had to replace the muffler and rear pipe work on our 306, dropped into Pitstop and I asked if they could free it up a bit and remove the Cat. (It wasn't allowed to sound like a Boy Racer car though)
They wouldn't remove the Cat as they were unsure of how the new rules were going to work.

If it came with a Cat it has to have a Cat in any replacement system, along with any lambda sensors.

[Mike748]

If it came with a Cat it has to have a Cat in any replacement system, along with any lambda sensors.

Yeah, we left it in I wasn't that set on removing it, it was just one of those while your at it things.

It just surprised me that they were concerned enough about the upcoming rules to turn away the extra work.

[McJim]

All this about stock exhausts and aftermarket exhasuts and catalytic convertors yadda yadda yadda.

How does this affect people that have their stock exhausts, open them, remove all the shite inside then reconfigure the baffles, re-jet the carbs and put the whole thing back together again?

Are they gonna open every can, refer to the diagrams and make sure it's all stock?

[mbazza]

No WoF = no rego. You sir, will become an outlaw. Like that guy with long hair who rode a HD and had that American Indian cop as a friend on TV on friday nights years ago. Renegade was it?

Jees, I'd forgotten about -- Renegade --! Cheers.

[James Deuce]

All this about stovk exhausts and aftermarket exhasuts and catalytic convertors yadda yadda yadda.

How does this affect people that have their stock exhausts, open them, remove all the shite inside then reconfigure the baffles, re-jet the carbs and put the whole thing back together again?

Are they gonna open every can, refer to the diagrams and make sure it's all stock?

A badly performed noise test with a $20 dB meter will quickly tell the expertly trained sound engineer/mechanic/social worker/tax lawyer that the exhaust system has been modified.

[scumdog]

Jees, I'd forgotten about -- Renegade --! Cheers.

Use to amaze me how that dude toured all over the place and his only 'equipment' was a rolled-up Mexican blanket strapped to the handle-bar!!

(But use to dream of one day having a bike like that - without the blanket!!)

[Swoop]

In the same way, I'm surprised they have been able to make Radar detectors illegal, considering the investment people have made.

So far they haven't.
This has gone very quiet. The public servant minion's are probably scuttling around in the background, still pondering how to draft up another law to keep the politicians busy.

How does this affect people that have their stock exhausts, open them, remove all the shite inside then reconfigure the baffles, re-jet the carbs and put the whole thing back together again?

Like anyone would actually do such a thing...

[McJim]

Well thanks to this thread I have gone a solved the problem and fitted a cat.

I just hope they don't look too closely since it's not actually the same as the original one!