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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    Slow learner
    Aye. Most of them for wheelies! That's a no no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    Slow learner

    Actually, I think he's done extraordinarily well to get off that lightly.....

    I mean, I'm sure he's ridden a lot more than seven times...

    Before you judge a man, walk a mile in his shoes. After that, who cares? ...He's a mile away and you've got his shoes

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    Quote Originally Posted by cs363 View Post
    Actually, I think he's done extraordinarily well to get off that lightly.....

    I mean, I'm sure he's ridden a lot more than seven times...
    Listen here numbnuts...I always take great care whilst riding. I just don't always bother unlocking the fucking steering!

    So there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Listen here numbnuts...I always take great care whilst riding. I just don't always bother unlocking the fucking steering!

    So there.
    Lol, nice comeback.... apparently I have to share the bling about before you get more. So let's just say I owe you....

    Though I think back in the old days at Boyle's some of those shiteboxes you worked on may have had seized steering rather than locked...

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    You could always do what lots of good Kiwi's have done before you.

    Jump the ditch .... head for Queensland or the NT.

    Change your name

    Get a job in the outback.

    But remember if you take this option you can never come home again.


    Or


    You could spend a few hundy on a decient laywer and prepare yourself to take your licks.

    Be a better choice than some dropkick court appointed prick whos only interest is getting through the day without any hassels.

    Your choice at the end of the day.

    Hope it all works out for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fireliv View Post
    Duty solicitors will not represent in this court normally as it is very minor,

    Good luck with your case
    not quite true, I just defended a traffic ticket only two weeks ago, lesser than careless, the fine was only $150 with 30 demerits and the duty solicitor argued my case for me and got the charge dismissed, so if you think your not guilty I say go for it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Don't think it's ever been automatic disqualification...not for the seven odd times I've been charged with it!
    it was careless use causing injury that I was charged with

    obviously the law has changed in the 25 plus years since I got charged

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    Quote Originally Posted by popelli View Post
    it was careless use causing injury that I was charged with

    obviously the law has changed in the 25 plus years since I got charged
    Yeah I've only ever managed to injure myself!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockbuddy View Post
    not quite true, I just defended a traffic ticket only two weeks ago, lesser than careless, the fine was only $150 with 30 demerits and the duty solicitor argued my case for me and got the charge dismissed, so if you think your not guilty I say go for it
    Very true. I said they would not normally represent in this court, depends on what other courts are running, size of court, avaliablity etc. Yup if you have a decent defense then give it a go
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    As laid out in the relevant legislation and regulations...

    Fine: up to $3000
    Disqualification: No minimum or maximum or automatic - entirely at the discretion of the presiding (judge? might just be JPs)


    Demerit points: 35

    Quote Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback View Post
    Yeah I've only ever managed to injure myself!!
    That actually counts as careless causing injury.
    If it wasn't for a concise set of rules, we might have to resort to common sense!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Max Preload View Post
    As laid out in the relevant legislation and regulations...

    Fine: up to $3000
    Disqualification: No minimum or maximum or automatic - entirely at the discretion of the presiding (judge? might just be JPs)


    Demerit points: 35



    That actually counts as careless causing injury.
    Only if you tell them about it at the time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by z99 View Post
    First time gt the "careless driving charge 37(1)" NOt to sure what too do..should i pay some lawers?or just use a free duty lawer out side the court?
    What was the illedged offence? Was any one else involved, ie victims?

    I was booked for careless driving after an accident....I stopped at a stop sign, looked into the rain. I did not see a grey car without headlights on, and so pulled out into an accident.

    Did all the correct things well beyond obligatory at the scene and a few days later I received the notice in the mail....I responded with a letter explaining I had not commited a crime, I had a honest accident, I stopped looked hard because of the conditions....I was let off as a result.

    If you circumstances are similar the challenge it, If for pulling 100kph wheelies in a school zone at 3 pm ....pay it and count your self lucky....

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    Thanks for all the replies. Some of you might already know my story but for those who don’t I was in a motor bike accident 3 months ago. I was out riding when I hit a speed beep after a bridge and I got a tank-slapper (wild and rapid swings of the handlebars from hard-stop right to hard-stop left and back again) happens when harmonic feedback is generated following your front tire hitting an imperfection on the road surface such as the slight bump at the end of your driveway. Anyway I lost control and hit into a car on the opposite side of the road luckily no one in the car was hurt. The bike was ridden off.
    I am no sure what speed I was going at the time or are the other members in the group. I spent 3 weeks in hospital as I had a dislocated shoulder and broke my pelvis. I have been off work for the last 3 months now. I am hoping can keep my licence and that I will just get a fine and maybe do a driving defence course and that I wont get a record. Well only got 10 more days if anyone knows a good community lawyer on the shore please let me know or any other suggestions might help.

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    Ridden off to where?
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    Quote Originally Posted by z99 View Post
    I was out riding when I hit a speed beep after a bridge and I got a tank-slapper. Anyway I lost control and hit into a car on the opposite side of the road luckily no one in the car was hurt.

    I am no sure what speed I was going at the time or are the other members in the group. I am hoping can keep my licence and that I will just get a fine and maybe do a driving defence course and that I wont get a record. .
    I dont profess any legal cleverness so don't take this as advice...

    Tank slappers happen at varying speeds. If there is no charge of speed involved with this, then IMO you have not committed an offence that warrants punishment, you were a victim of circumstances, handling, the speed beep, the angle you struck it, tire pressures etc...(what is a speed beep anyway?) You had an honest accident, that could not be prevented etc...You may be at fault for insurance purposes, but not up for a careless driving charge.....unless you were.....

    Is a speed beep something that should require a warning on the road? Is a speed beep a known hazard that the council should have addressed?

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