Diesel spills?

[CookMySock]

Please bring the specifics, Tank. What design problem? Which new buses exactly?

DB

[Tank]

The design issue is (quoting from an other thread):

It happens because often the filler cap is not much above the level of fuel when the tank is full, and the filler pipe is at a very shallow angle. This is a design issue rather than a failing of a diesel system per se. If the pipe was close to vertical and the cap at least a foot above the tank, spills would be rare.

That has nothing to do with rouge operators etc - Thats why I said understand the issue before you go trying to fix it.

What busses?? - in my case the new Maxx busses for the northern busway.

I pass a roundabout right by the Albany station where the bus goes right around a very tight turn - there is often spillage there.

[Ocean1]

Pet hate of mine.

Don't have much to offer, just that I've seen plenty of trucks/busses with obviously inadequate filler caps.

Also, *555 works sometimes, I've had a call from te feds advising that they'd pinged a truck I'd advise was pissing diesel on every RH turn for bloody miles.

The design thing. All "car" filler systems are required to meet specific standards, (which vary omly slightly from country to country), the chief element of which is an airtight cap seal, including pressure/vacuum break valves. This type of system is notably absent on most "trucks". It is, however found on any diesel "car", and I'm not aware of too many problems there.

Diesel is inherently more of a traction problem anyway, it lurks longer and is a better lubricant than petrol. It seems likely that there's more than one part to the overall safety problem. Be a big ask to both define, implement and enforce a "car" system for "trucks", and the fact that big diesels feed quite a bit of fuel from the injector pump back to the tank may be an issue... Also, how do you test such a system during a COF?

Like Tank said, plenty of READY and AIM needed before the FIRE. Don't believe cost is an acceptable excuse either, the costs of any mitigating regulation would be evenly spread over competing commercial entities, and as someone said the (undefined) cost of accidents is likely to well offset any such changes.

[CookMySock]

What busses?? - in my case the new Maxx busses for the northern busway. I pass a roundabout right by the Albany station where the bus goes right around a very tight turn - there is often spillage there.

Can I leave you to do the legwork on that one? Albany is 4.5 hours from here.

Steve