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    05 636 review

    coming from having a SV 650 for 13'000k's and not having ridden a inline 4, I had to ride the 05 636 to find out what the 6xx class is all about.

    Mt.Eden motorcycles was very nice to lend a potential buyer (me) their red 05 636 with 919km on the clock for a nice test ride, the roads I have ridden includes cruising the motorways and blatting around the twisties beyond clevedon.

    1st off the 636 is small, compare with the big tall long SV, you do slot onto the cockpit, however due to the lowish screen your head, chest and sholders are open to the wind specially the buffering when you head towards the 5 digit rpm in 4th gear.

    It purrs along with out the angry grow of my SV + M4 exhaust which in some ways is a disappointment. The seat is very comfy, after riding 2 hours I still don't have a sore bum issue. And that is pretty impressive. The handle bars are low, along the line of other 6xx's. However does feel closer to reach than others, hence you can be cruising along with one hand and be sitting stright up. However I did get quite a sore wrist after 2 hours. Which brings along to another point, the shape of the tank is very good. At no point was I under the feeling of my balls being compressed. And the contours on both side of the tank allows a very natural position for leaning off the bike.

    coming from my 650 twin, for me there is virtually no power band on the 636 under 7000rpm. It is just usable in keeping you from being run over by the truck 5 meters behind. when cruising at 100kph in top gear, under WOT over taking is a slow process, as you wait for the revs and power to build. But drop it down 1 or 2 notch and she will instantly take you well beyond the legal limit.

    compaired with the GSXR750, the induction roar is less and the torque is less sweet than the 650 twin or the 750 four. However it does certianly mumble on the stright and twisty country roads with the revvy motor and nice posh suspension. On the suspension side, the factory setup is biased more towards comfort either with a low preload or compression dampening so it soaks up the bumps very well while still delivering a good sport composed ride, the bike was never off track during corners. And I was only upset at the front suspension while going thru a series of small bumps on the road that happens to be in sync with suspension rebound, it was me that was upset at getting bounced around an in no way was the bike upset.

    I personally think with a smaller and less torquey motor than the 650 twin, a higher level of skill will be required to extract the same corner speed. However the whole "package" will make the difference at the end of the day. So I can't wait to try riding a GSXR750 over the same stretch of road and see the difference.

    Engine RPM / KPH - approx 5'500 rpm at 100kph in 6th gear.
    Top speed per gearing (redline 15'500rpm) - 281 kph. Does anyone know the official top speed for the 05 636? I wasn't ballz enought to find out.

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    Nice review Felix.... go for the gixxer though... obviously better comfort and superior bike...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Two Smoker
    Nice review Felix.... go for the gixxer though... obviously better comfort and superior bike...
    Not that you're bias or anything TS.

    Nice write up Zapf. Sounds like you're still quite fond of your current machine. Which begs the question, "reason for upgrade?".

    Looking forward to the next writeup. Going to try a 1k? r1/etc?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Lemur
    Not that you're bias or anything TS.

    Nice write up Zapf. Sounds like you're still quite fond of your current machine. Which begs the question, "reason for upgrade?".

    Looking forward to the next writeup. Going to try a 1k? r1/etc?
    Me mate??? Nah not biased at all...




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    Sounds like a good bike. Good write up

    Be good to hear about the 750

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghost Lemur
    Not that you're bias or anything TS.

    Nice write up Zapf. Sounds like you're still quite fond of your current machine. Which begs the question, "reason for upgrade?".

    Looking forward to the next writeup. Going to try a 1k? r1/etc?
    suspension and to a lesser extent brakes... are crap. so either spend money fixing it... or spend money on new bike but the SV engine is great... except when a 600 with TS screams pass you.... :P

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    I think you need to ride my bike to compare the 05 and 04.
    Really surprised Mike gave you his bike for that long! Normally he hardly lets it out of his sight, and it's for no longer than 30 mins, so to get 2 hours out of it, you must really have twisted his arm!!

    Good write up, I found pretty similar things with it, but the ride may have been a little different since we're coming from different backgrounds..

    On the back straight of Puke last weekend, I redlined in 6th at 282/285kph, but the engine was strong all the way up, never backed off

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugjuice
    I think you need to ride my bike to compare the 05 and 04.
    Really surprised Mike gave you his bike for that long! Normally he hardly lets it out of his sight, and it's for no longer than 30 mins, so to get 2 hours out of it, you must really have twisted his arm!!

    Good write up, I found pretty similar things with it, but the ride may have been a little different since we're coming from different backgrounds..

    On the back straight of Puke last weekend, I redlined in 6th at 282/285kph, but the engine was strong all the way up, never backed off
    haha.... I didn't think I was twisting his arm.... perhaps I charmed / sweet talked him

    so when do I get a blat on the orange 636?

    thinking now that if I do get the 636 I'll definatlly need an exhaust... the factory system is way too quite. Which is where the 750 wins hands down, with a nice factory intake roar and good sounding exhaust.

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    "Engine RPM / KPH - approx 5'500 rpm at 100kph in 6th gear.
    Top speed per gearing (redline 15'500rpm) - 281 kph. Does anyone know the official top speed for the 05 636? I wasn't ballz enought to find out"
    I think the real top speed is about 265k - around 163 mph.which is fast for a "600"
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPman
    I think the real top speed is about 265k - around 163 mph.which is fast for a "600"
    Which is about the same as a GSX-R600 according to the trashman...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPman
    I think the real top speed is about 265k - around 163 mph.which is fast for a "600"
    yep. most of the tuning is done for high end.... hence there is no torque in the low and low mid range.... air flow velocity is probly too slow thru the intake stacks....

    And did you know that according to Bridgestone... the factory (OEM) tire on the 05 ZX6R and ZX6RR only has 4/32 thread depth on the front tire. Compaired with 7/32 for a normal new tires.... (cheating?)

    http://www.motorcycle-karttires.com/...ypeID=39&size=

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    I'm the proud owner of a new 2005 zxr636 all 4 cylinders need to be at high revs to take off.
    But I bet when it took off (it impressed) I only have 3 complaints about the new model
    1: fuel small tank sick of filling it up all the time.
    2: back brakes shit don't know why
    3: and like you said you look through the screen to see the speedo
    anything past that Is amazing the power is great the handleing great You get the feeling the bike is laughing at you when your riding saying nasty things like your a pussy. (still haven't used all the front tire yet)
    I don't think I'll ever truly use the bike to its full potential but I'll give it a dame good try........
    best bike ever I'm very happy with it
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    Quote Originally Posted by SPman
    I think the real top speed is about 265k - around 163 mph.which is fast for a "600"
    i saw 285 on the back of Puke the other weekend which was only stopped by the limiter in 6th. I'm waiting to get my speedo calibrated, but I'd be happy to do that again. If the real reading was 20kph out, then I'd have a big speed diff issue.. Could it be that big?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugjuice
    i saw 285 on the back of Puke the other weekend which was only stopped by the limiter in 6th. I'm waiting to get my speedo calibrated, but I'd be happy to do that again. If the real reading was 20kph out, then I'd have a big speed diff issue.. Could it be that big?
    Fastest I saw on the back straqight at Puke was 254kmph. My bike was the actual bike used for the BRM report on the 03 ZXR636, one of the mechanics at HMCC (a racer) got 274 out of my actual bike.

    I would doubt you had 285 on yours kit, maybe the speedo is out ?

    I was tapped out in 5th to get my speed, I think the top for the day would have been maybe 265kmph

    And I realise Im prolly heavier than you by maybe 15 kgs ?
    Ive run out of fucks to give

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quasievil
    Fastest I saw on the back straqight at Puke was 254kmph. My bike was the actual bike used for the BRM report on the 03 ZXR636, one of the mechanics at HMCC (a racer) got 274 out of my actual bike.

    I would doubt you had 285 on yours kit, maybe the speedo is out ?

    I was tapped out in 5th to get my speed, I think the top for the day would have been maybe 265kmph

    And I realise Im prolly heavier than you by maybe 15 kgs ?
    lol.. sayin your a lardy boy now?
    I know the speedo it is probably out a bit, but that'd be huge. I'm gonna get it calibrated so I know for sure, but if definitly stopped accelerating when the little black lines got to the red bit on the revs. It helped that I got a draft from a zx10 before the kink which gave me the boost. I was leveling out around the kink otherwise and saw on averange 260-270 (and one 277) before the anchors came on. Hell, if I could afford another back tyre, I'd be out there now, doin it again. Wish I was..

    The bike pulled hard all the way thru 6th too. I reckon it'd redline itself given a little more room.
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