new sports bikes.....bit wank

[mikey]

who honestly gives a fuck if one bike puts out a few more horses or weighs an extra kilogram or 5 more than the competition,

for stareters these are normally claimed dry weights, might be a differnt story with everyhitn in them, an the power is nomrally a claimed power,

in the extreme competition of 600cc to 1000cc sports bikes post 2000 i dont think it reallly matters unless you can ride like, andrew stroud, or my granma, i dont think an extra CLAIMED kg or that bike is down a CLAIMED a horse or two will make a fuck a lot of difference.

when some bank is dumb enough to lend me money i will go for

a-the one that is a most comfortable to ride around commute
b-who is offering best deals at time, like HOEI helmet or discount or sumshit
c- if i think the salesman is a prick i will not buy, go to somehwere else, even a different dealership with same bike.
d- the looks

none of those are in any particular order

might even end up with a buell


i think its got a tad wank .

[Jantar]

You are perfectly correct. A few HP or a few kg here or there will make very little difference when cruising on the road.

On the Southern Cross Rally my GS1200SS at 100 HP cruised at a similar pace to Blackbird's 150 HP Blackbird and Mangell6's 120 HP FZ1.

A 230 kg bike with a 75 kg rider travelling at 120 kph is only using 35 HP at the back wheel. At 240 kph it is using 100 HP. But if you want to cruise at 300 kph, or accellerate quick enough to shred the tyes, then HP and weight does matter.

[John]

Some people care alot for bikes and like to stay on the cutting edge, its their life and they often desirve it, thats why that extra 10 horses and loss of 10kg can make all the difference you also failed to outline differences in brakes/suspension/rake/trail/ergonomics and heaps of crap - yes the claimed hp is normally taken from the crank after the build the engine but oh well.
Have fun with buying a new bike.

[Two Smoker]

I got my GSX-R600 because it was the best.... but i want to race mine...

[WINJA]

WAIT TILL YOU GOT THE BUG MIKEY HP IS ADDICTIVE ITS WORSE THAN "P".
WITH YOUR REASONING IT WOULD BE JUST AS MUCH FUN GETTING THERE IN A DIESEL TOYOTA COROLLA .I LIKE CORNEREING BUT I ALSO LOVE TO BE ABLE TO NAIL IT DOWN THE STRAIGHTS AND FEEL THE POWER.
AND YOU FORGET 6 CAN IT OUTRUN THE COPS

[Skunk]

Never needed the specs on a bike... My only question's are

• What does it ride like?
• Will it fit in the van?
• What are the running costs?

[Biff]

Spot on Mikey.

If you look at the actual sales of sports bikes the world over sales are falling, fast. Pepole are getting pissed off by the fact that bikes are becoming more uncomfortable, more impractical etc. Hence the reason why naked bikes and sports tourers are streaking ahead in terms of global sales.

But the bike manufacturers are going to continue developing them and making them commerically available in order to promote, finance and qualify for WSG, MOTO GP etc.

I'll never go back to a sports bike, as I want a bike I can use everyday to communte, tour, take Ms Biff on trips in relative comfort etc.

But they are secsy looking machines.

[mangell6]

And once you have gone through the horsepower stakes you may begin to look at bikes where you have to actually 'work' at riding them to get the most out of the bike and the road.

I don't do any track racing and having a bike that can do 160kph in 2nd gear doesn't really leave much riding skill factor on the open road to keep up with people at speeds that ensures I can continue to ride.

Will eventually get a smaller bike where riding and bike handling skills are more of a factor than the ability to utilise 120+hp.

Still there is nothing like the sheer power and speed of HP.

Mike

[Motu]

Gotta agree with Mikey - wank,wank.The numbers on the spec sheet can be changed at will - by the advertising men,not the engineers....and who do the buying public believe? The add man because he makes it sound more exciting than a boring engineer.

It was Willian C Durant who started it,back in the 1920s...he was the guy who started General Motors.Who do you sell new cars to,when they just bought a new car last year?....You make them disatisfied with the car they now own,make the new one sound so much better they just have to have the latest one.Even Henry Ford had to succcumb and stop making the Model T.

I always gotta laugh at people who keep buying the latest bike - duh,why don't you get your money's worth out of the old one?

[justsomeguy]

I always gotta laugh at people who keep buying the latest bike - duh,why don't you get your money's worth out of the old one?

Sssshhhhh!!!!!

That's NOT what they say on TV. And what do you know compared to the people inside the TV???

[madboy]

I bought my bike based on the fact that it was a late-model 600 sportsbike with low mileage, I liked the look of it, I liked it on the road, it could smoke the 5-0 (my 400 top end was just a little lacking), I liked the dealer I bought it from and could afford it. That was my criteria. Nothing more special than that.

It was only afterwards that I bothered reading the write ups and comparos. Who cares? I'm not good enough to care whether it's got 1hp more than the competition, nor whether it has 10hp less. Last time I saw Velox on a twisty section I waved her past cos I knew my bike could whip her, but I couldn't. Victory to the 250.

But if you're good and you can do justice to the bike, then every last bit (or lack of bits) counts.

[Two Smoker]

. Last time I saw Velox on a twisty section I waved her past cos I knew my bike could whip her, but I couldn't. Victory to the 250.
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Weasel is one girl im scared of seeing on a 600 Supersport

[FROSTY:Me]

I totally agree with you mikey. In the real world of road riding 3 extra hp make zero difference. Its only in the road race world that it makes a difference Even then -as I've discovered to my extreme cost IRider ability can totally make up for lack of HP and even handling.

[MSTRS:Me]

I subscribe to the principle that if your bike is capable of better than you can do, then you will never be disappointed.

[mikey]

WITH YOUR REASONING IT WOULD BE JUST AS MUCH FUN GETTING THERE IN A DIESEL TOYOTA COROLLA .

read what i said

or what i meant it to be interpreted as would go somwhat like

new sports bikes have ridicoulous amounts of power an are anorexic at best

i honestly dont think its going to make a difference if one is ]CLAIMED CLAIMED to have a DRY weight a few kilos more or a [SIZE=5]]CLAIMED few extra horses that i would put a 50 down that you will probably never see