mid corner gravel rocks the party

[FzerozeroT]

Here's the e-mail I sent to the council, I'll let the pictures tell the rest

"Hi mark, the receptionist told me that you are the man to talk to about this.

The photos pretty much explain the story :

1. coming up to the corner the gravel is not apparant
2. i pulled into the slow trafic lane to avoid the traffic coming up behind me
3. doing about 30 kph after braking
4. turned into corner
5. front wheel slid out

As you can imagine i was pretty upset, cursing the fact that there was no roadsigns. I look around and see roadsigns 200m further on!

I have been in contact with my insurance brokers and they have asked me to go directly to you to resolve the matter of fixing my bike and gear.
I hope that something can be sorted out as soon as possible.

Yours sincerely


Matthew Foot"

[Wenier]

Yea the councils in this country are fukn useless they should definitely pay for that my mate had a incident with a sweeper truck on a windy open road area where they hadnt sign posted that it was sweepin and when he came round the corner well fuk me wut was in the way.

Fight it out and make them pay best of luck dude!

[750Y]

bummer, looks like a nice bike & good gears also.
I am concerned that it sounds like your broker is fobbing you off. I was under the impression that's what insurance is for & if they want to take issue then they should chase the council AFTER paying You out to replace the leathers and get the bike fixed.(i'm no expert tho)
send a copy of the email to your local MP also and demand they act straight away before another biker goes down and inform the police if You haven't already & make a statement about what occurred being very careful not to leave any avenue for them to weedle out of it. so make sure you were in the right(which it sounds like you were). hassle the shit out of them all each day until you get action.
bet of luck and cool bike too btw.

[Antallica]

See what have I been saying, those green Kawa's are cursed I tell you!!

Bugger about the bike dude, only thing that goes on the FXR is the mirror and the pegs take the damage.

$90 later the mirror is sweet and so is the bike usually
Good luck on fighting the council dude!!

[Motu]

So,have you learnt something,or are you going to continue blaming someone else for not keeping your eyes peeled.You sound like my mate who was gunna ''do'' the council when he canned it on white lines in the wet.

[Wenier]

its a bit different when there is gravel from roadworks and they havent put signs in the right place.

[FROSTY:Me]

So,have you learnt something,or are you going to continue blaming someone else for not keeping your eyes peeled.You sound like my mate who was gunna ''do'' the council when he canned it on white lines in the wet.

Nope I cant agree with ya here dude. I had a scarey off one day --pulled round a corner at like 15 km/h then ended up on my arse.
The council had resealed the road then put pea gravel down -no road works sighns on a blind corner.
I saw 4 car crashes as I was getting the bike back ridable.
The council paid to repair my bike.

[Motu]

Oh,for fucks sakes you lot - I'm soooooo sick of hearing you guys bleat on about falling off because you came across a bit of gravel ''you didn't know was there'',a bump in the road,road works,the sun was in my eyes,my G string was stuck up my arse,any fucking excuse except the one that caused the bin - the rider was caught unawares of a road hazzard - hey that's your job..yes you the rider,the guy in control of the motorcycle - stand up and say - ''I fucked up''

Have I ever fallen off in gravel? of course - 1970,my second day on a bike,no license...I pull into a gravel drive and drop the bike....the next day I do exactly the same thing.Did I learn from this? Aparently not because in 1990 I again fell off my bike on a gravel road - I'm still learning.This Easter I traveled 1100km on wet sealed and gravel roads,most unknown to me on a bike with knobby tyres - did I fall off because some useless council didn't maintain or signpost their roads - nooooo.

LEARN to ride guys - it might save your life one day.

[Antallica]

One time I dropped my FXR, day after me and my mate had bogged it back on. Go figure.

Good points on both sides. Live and learn.... most of all, live my friends

[FROSTY:Me]

I agree that hey at the end of the day the decision to be at that place at that time is all ours. Blaming the "blind" cage driver or that stupid dog for falling off our bike is pretty dumb.
That said there are occasions where you're sitting on ya ass on the road
thinking--'was there anything I could have-should have done different'
and you can't think of anything.
When I fell off -other than simply not being on that road at that time i can think of nothing I would have /could have done different.
it aint a matter of winging --just the reality of life as a biker.
If it was a diesel patch from an overfull truck I hit then it would have been a case of SHIT HAPPENS

[FzerozeroT]

I can agree with you Jackrat. Maybe I should have been watching the road a bit closer instead of the saab that was closing in behind me or the diamante that was coming the other way, I have been hit by people who "didn't see you stopping there".
However, I scanned the road from 100m and bugger me if the road looked all good, and why wouldn't it be - if there was any major problem with the road then transit NZ would have spray painted squares around the rough patches or there would be a sign up with "cars flicking stones at windscreens". This is the NZ that I know, Transit NZ and LTSA do SOME god things.
The case here is not of "shit happens" it's a case of negligence by the workers that were doing their merry job just up the road.

[marty]

[QUOTE=FzerozeroT]

1. coming up to the corner the gravel is not apparant
2. i pulled into the slow trafic lane to avoid the traffic coming up behind me
3. doing about 30 kph after braking
4. turned into corner
5. front wheel slid out
[QUOTE]

1. what is the stuff sitting in the brand new curbing, or covering the fog line in one of your pix?
2. it looks wide enough to put a truck in - i presume that's what it's for
3. fair enuf
4. as you do
5. as it does when there is fresh seal, stones etc....


come on man - it's riding on the road ffs. it could have been anything - i went around french pass for a blast the other day - crested a rising left hander with the sun in my eyes at about 120k, and rode between 2 sheep dogs trotting down the road about 2 metres apart.........if i had have hit them it may have been someone elses contribution to my demise, but it would have been my fault for not taking ALL REASONABLE CARE. your insurer is trying to get out of paying, & the council will never pay. go back to your insurer and tell them - i pay my premiums for this, fix it. it is then their problem to go to the council, not yours. that's what you are paying for them to do.

[750Y]

I can agree with you Jackrat.

LOL, easy to get them mixed up.

[Motu]

Grumpy old farts who spend more time on the computer than riding bikes eh.

[Jackrat]

I can agree with you Jackrat. Maybe I should have been watching the road a bit closer instead of the saab that was closing in behind me or the diamante that was coming the other way, I have been hit by people who "didn't see you stopping there".
However, I scanned the road from 100m and bugger me if the road looked all good, and why wouldn't it be - if there was any major problem with the road then transit NZ would have spray painted squares around the rough patches or there would be a sign up with "cars flicking stones at windscreens". This is the NZ that I know, Transit NZ and LTSA do SOME god things.
The case here is not of "shit happens" it's a case of negligence by the workers that were doing their merry job just up the road.

Hey whoa bro' it wasn't me.Honest mate you can trust me.
Ummmm,Now I'm here I may as well say something.
Wan'a buy a good used Valiant??Low kms,one little old lady driver,,,,,,,,,
Aye what???????????Oh damn voises in my head.
Mate tell your insurance Co' to get it's shit togeather.