Flip-top lids?

[Gizzit]

Anybody had experience with the Nolan N102 or Shoei Multitec flip top lids ??
I have a really nice Shark FF, but as I wear glasses, I want to change to a flip top. I know they will no doubt be heavier and probably noisier, but I think if they are strong enough ... and don't fall apart after a year or so ....they are a good option for those of us who have to wear glasses ..... and NO ... I can't use contacts !!!!! Grrrr

Suggestions please ?

Cheers,
Grant.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Anybody had experience with the Nolan N102 or Shoei Multitec flip top lids ??
I have a really nice Shark FF, but as I wear glasses, I want to change to a flip top. I know they will no doubt be heavier and probably noisier, but I think if they are strong enough ... and don't fall apart after a year or so ....they are a good option for those of us who have to wear glasses ..... and NO ... I can't use contacts !!!!! Grrrr

Suggestions please ?

Cheers,
Grant.

I use the Nolan N102, and love it... I now wear glasses, so the flip is good as well as the sun visor

I don't find it that noisy on short trips... (3 or 4 hours) but on the long hauls i do use ear plugs.. (im like that with most helmets anyway...)

[yungatart]

I have an HJC flip top helmet. Yep, like you I wear glasses and can't wear contacts either.
Its not particulaly noisy, or heavy.
Try them all on and find the one that suits your noggin the best.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

I have an HJC flip top helmet. Yep, like you I wear glasses and can't wear contacts either.
Its not particulaly noisy, or heavy.
Try them all on and find the one that suits your noggin the best.

me other half has hjc flip... she seems happy... though she wears contacts but likes the idea of the sun visor on mine...

[scracha]

Used a Shoe Syncrotec for donkeys. They're the shiz around town etc. Longer journeys I use a "traditional" skid lid due to the noise.

[NordieBoy]

I use a cheap Zeus flip front and love it.
Just upgraded to a KBC FFR and the style and features are great but the Zeus is a nicer fit.

[Pixie]

Anybody had experience with the Nolan N102 or Shoei Multitec flip top lids ??
I have a really nice Shark FF, but as I wear glasses, I want to change to a flip top. I know they will no doubt be heavier and probably noisier, but I think if they are strong enough ... and don't fall apart after a year or so ....they are a good option for those of us who have to wear glasses ..... and NO ... I can't use contacts !!!!! Grrrr

Suggestions please ?

Cheers,
Grant.

I've got a N102 and have an N100 which I used for 7 years.
They don't fall apart and replacement parts are available.

[Grub]

Anybody had experience with the Nolan N102 or Shoei Multitec flip top lids ??.

Nasty and I have the N102 and LOVE them. Ours have the comms and bluetooth kits for bike-bike comms. The details and pic in this post

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...0&postcount=31

The thing is, they're amazing quality for an amazing price with RRP ay $599. The complete helmet and bike-bike setup costs us less than $1,000 which is just brilliant value for money

There's been about 5 threads about these and other helmets. Use the Forum Search tool and look for "nolan"

[Grub]

Used a Shoe Syncrotec for donkeys. They're the shiz around town etc. Longer journeys I use a "traditional" skid lid due to the noise.

I've posted this before, but hope I can spread the word and continue to help people.

The noise from a helmet is less from the shape of the case than the vortex created between the shoulder and the base of the helmet. Here's a simple test - as you're riding along, hold your hand up under your ear to block the air betwee it and your shoulder .... instant sillence (on that side)!

So, after much research, I have a simple $10 solution. By wrapping a scarf around your kneck you fill in the open area below your helmet and the noise all goes away. So again, it's not the helmet but the gap benath it. Add a set of earplgs and it's silent running (well almost)

Removing the Nolan sunshade makes no difference one way or another (except that you suffer sun-strike) as that's not where the noise is coming from. Our HJC's have the same noise level as the Nolans

I hope that helps somebody else protect their hearing and enjy nice quiet rides.

[Gizzit]

I use the Nolan N102, and love it... I now wear glasses, so the flip is good as well as the sun visor

I don't find it that noisy on short trips... (3 or 4 hours) but on the long hauls i do use ear plugs.. (im like that with most helmets anyway...)

That sounds good and I like the idea of the sun visor. I found trying both the Shoei and the Nolan, that the Shoei was slightly lighter and seemed to fit my head a little better, but the Nolan had better features.
And talking of ear plugs ... I am planning to get some earplugs on Saturday 15th Sept at Motomail when that crowd are doing the custom fit plugs. I'm a bit "mutt n jeff" already, so I can't afford to loose too much more hearing .... or I'll never hear my wife talking to me !

[Gizzit]

So, after much research, I have a simple $10 solution. By wrapping a scarf around your kneck you fill in the open area below your helmet and the noise all goes away. So again, it's not the helmet but the gap benath it. Add a set of earplgs and it's silent running (well almost)

I'm sure you are right Grub, and some helmets come with better cushioning around the neck ... like a skirt kind of thing that the Shoei comes with, that seals off so that less wind gets up into the helmet. Also I think you do get some extra noise from any opening that doesn't seal well, and why probably most flip tops are noisier than the ordinary FF helmets.

[aewilliam]

Not too keen on squeezing them glasses frames through the helmet? Maybe im just fortunate to have a pair of flexi frames that bend through my Nitro1200 lid...
Worked the same with an Arai, but didnt have the $800ish for THAT one.
Surprised no ones suggested DIYing your current lid into a fliptop?

[Taz]

I've recently bought a Multitec and it's great. Comes with the pin-lock anti-fog shield and whisper kit. Definitely not heavy and in my opinion several steps above the nolan. Try them both on and choose the one that's the most comfortable for you. For me it was the shoei and I definitely don't need bluetooth gizmo's or music when riding. That's not what riding is about for me.
Andy.

[Nasty]

I'm sure you are right Grub, and some helmets come with better cushioning around the neck ... like a skirt kind of thing that the Shoei comes with, that seals off so that less wind gets up into the helmet. Also I think you do get some extra noise from any opening that doesn't seal well, and why probably most flip tops are noisier than the ordinary FF helmets.

I went from an HJC to a nolan .. and I get way less noise than I had with the FF ... I can ride without earplugs comfortably ...

[far queue]

I went from a Shoei XR800 to a Shoei Multitec. The multitec is definitely noisier than the XR800 was without earplugs. But I always wear earplugs, other than around town, so I'm not too worried about it. When I was looking for a new lid I tried not to be biased, so tried on every brand I could find, and still liked the fit of the Shoei the best. But that's just me, you may like something else better. I've had it about 6 months now and am still happy with it.

Positives ... The pinlock anti fog thingy is brilliant, the ventilation control is great, the comfort is great, the aerodynamics seem to work well (no buffeting), it comes with a clear and a tinted visor, it comes with chin and neck curtains to reduce wind noise, (I've used the chin curtain but not the neck curtain), it's light.

Negatives ... The chin piece is VERY close to my chin i.e. it's touches my chin while riding. I wear glasses and it usually pulls them off when I remove it. Increased wind noise over my last lid.