2003 GSXR 1000 Vs 2007 R1

[Matt Bleck]

K3 and I had the pleasure of riding with a couple of R1's the other day, a blue 07 and a bleck 08.

We did roll on's in every gear, what would be your guess as to which bike come out on top? (All on our closed private road, etc etc, so on and so forth.

K3
TRE,
2 bros M2 muffler,
K&N Air fliter,
PC III custom mapped.
Me on board at 92kgs.

07 R1
Stock Standard
Rider 80ish kgs?

08 R1
Stock Standard
Rider 130ish?


Vote away

[NZsarge]

Gixxer, still take the R1 though, black '08

[Nonbeliever]

who cares?

rollons are pretty much meaningless.

Gimme an 07 or later r1 anyday over any model gixxer

[DMNTD:Me]

The K3...NOT stock standard edition

[NZsarge]

who cares?

rollons are pretty much meaningless.

Gimme an 07 or later r1 anyday over any model gixxer

I respectfully disagree, roll on's are probably one of the most important criteria for performance on the road. How fast a bikes top speed is or how fast it gets to 100kph does'nt really mean squat on public roads at least.

[saul]

K3 and I had the pleasure of riding with a couple of R1's the other day, a blue 07 and a bleck 08.

We did roll on's in every gear, what would be your guess as to which bike come out on top? (All on our closed private road, etc etc, so on and so forth.

K3
TRE,
2 bros M2 muffler,
K&N Air fliter,
PC III custom mapped.
Me on board at 92kgs.

07 R1
Stock Standard
Rider 80ish kgs?

08 R1
Stock Standard
Rider 130ish?


Vote away

What could beat the just about stock standard K3????

Err hey what happened to the stock stndard K3?

If you had invited the Poulan might have been a different story

Is the bleck one the big (ste-e) fellas??

[Nonbeliever]

I respectfully disagree, roll on's are probably one of the most important criteria for performance on the road. How fast a bikes top speed is or how fast it gets to 100kph does'nt really mean squat on public roads at least.

Ever heard of a gearing change??

[NZsarge]

I suspect even a stock K3 would be quicker in in-gear acceleration.

[NZsarge]

Ever heard of a gearing change??

whatever

[Nonbeliever]

whatever

back at cha

[saul]

whatever

back at cha

Oh yeh baby

Back to the bizzo

[kiwifruit]

not much keeps up with a K3

[Nonbeliever]

scene:

08 r1 rider carves up k3 rider at trackday, and in the pits the two riders are chatting...
r1rider says "hey I hope the pass was ok?"
k3rider replies"oh yea it was ok, you were looking good out there"
r1 rider "thanks"
k3 rider "but my bike is faster in a rollon in top gear from 33mph to 116mph"
r1 rider "huh??" and wanders off to take some pics of his own bike.

[Paulus]

My old 98 R1 (with a Yoshi can) would take an 04 ZX-10R and an 06 R1 in top gear roll on up to a point (about 200 kph) but after that they'd come past. Lower geared top gear and fatter midrange were my guess as to the reason. Now I've got an 06 R1 as well and I love it but sometimes you do need to downshift a gear or two to get to good acceleration (never really needed to do this on the 98). Being a good sportsbike is about lots more than just top gear roll on performance though.

[Matt Bleck]

scene:

08 r1 rider carves up k3 rider at trackday, and in the pits the two riders are chatting...
r1rider says "hey I hope the pass was ok?"
k3rider replies"oh yea it was ok, you were looking good out there"
r1 rider "thanks"
k3 rider "but my bike is faster in a rollon in top gear from 33mph to 116mph"
r1 rider "huh??" and wanders off to take some pics of his own bike.

Yup I agree there, but this is about the bike not the rider, I would be faster on a 08 R1 at taupo than on my K3, the R1 as it was is very flat down low where as my K3 pulls hard from about 3000rpm. I believe it would easier to get the power down smoother and sooner on the 08 R1, which now has Ohlins, and Vance hine's SBK cans...