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    MNZ announces Motards back in F3!

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    SUPER MOTARD RIDING STYLE

    Regarding all classes and Super Motard riding style.
    MNZ road-race commissioner Paul Stewart thanks all the people who took the time to put forward constructive comments regards the riding style of the Super Motards.

    Given the various opinions put forward for consideration of those that are for and those that are against the two class's racing against each other, it is clear that there is a genuine desire by the Super Motard riders to be included within the structure of what would be considered an accepted road race style.

    Given that there was a remit presented to the commission some two years ago by concerned riders of F3 about the style of some the SM riders a safety rule was put in place excluding SM from the F3 class racing.

    However following the correspondence over the last two months regards this subject it is the determination of the commission that there is to be a one year (maximum) trial period to gauge the safe practice of these class’s racing against each other with some exceptions.

    If during this period (1 year trial) of mixed class racing the Super Motard riders cannot adapt to the traditional style of racing then Super Motards will be excluded from all class’s, except their own class of racing.

    Therefore it is incumbent of Super Motard riders to self govern themselves, as I am sure we would all like to see this exercise succeed.

    The issues are.
    The practice of sliding the rear wheel out on the entry into corners, leading with the inside leg off the foot peg (i.e. similar to a moto Cross style), and backing into corners in an exaggerated manner.

    All class’s and Super Motards

    In race meetings where there are F3/ BEARS class races and also Super Motard class races then the genuine F3/ Bears bikes will have first call on the grid positions for the F3 races.

    Any grid positions that are left vacant can be filled on a first entered (by post date of entry form to meeting) on the grid up to the maximum numbers on the grid as set by the club in the sub regs by Super Motard class bikes.

    Remembering Super Motards would have their own races and that a true F3/ BEARS cannot race in Super Motard races.

    It is the clubs discretion as to the class structure of their meeting.
    When applying for a permit the club must consider the circuit suitable as to whether F3/BEARS and Super Motards can compete together where the circuit lends its design to using traditional road racing styles.

    In the case where a circuit is suited to Super Motards only (i.e. Wyndham Burt Munroe meeting) then the permit must indicate so that MNZ will sign off the permit on the information provided as to the suitability of F3 and SM racing together.

    Riding Style.
    In races where F3/BEARS and Super Motard are permitted to race together a traditional road race style ONLY MUST be used.

    Riders who are considered not to be riding during practice or racing within the intent of the traditional road race style the rider will be spoken to by the steward in the first instance.

    In the circumstances where it is considered dangerous to riders the offending rider/s will be shown the black flag by an official

    Rule 6-19 to be observed by officials, Individual rider to stop and retire from the course upon completion of that lap. The rider’s number must be shown on a board at the same point as the black flag is displayed.

    If the rider/s continue to ignore the safety of themselves or fellow riders they may be barred from competing in the remainder of that meeting this infringement to be recorded in the riders log book.

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    Sounds good to me. I don't race either class though.

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    Very interesting...

    I can see a boom in motard sales and conversions...

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    does this mean if a sports bike backs in, it is now against the rules?

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    cool im going to cross enter my 250 into supermotard now cause they get to cross enter into the formula classes, I should be allowed to cross enter into thier class surely?


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    Probably the intention will be to combine F3 and SM together in one race only at club level and drop the SM seperate races, should be good for all involved as it will shorten up the roster and give more track time to all.

    Yes 2 feet on the footpegs. Exaggerated backing in not allowed (poor Jay L!) although to be fair how many 400's or 65o's do you see going sideways into corners?

    And yes they have to ride like road bikes. Hard to do when you sit in a beg position. But hey if they want to be included the SM riders will need to adapt, just like the nF3 guys did to 650's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrislost View Post
    does this mean if a sports bike backs in, it is now against the rules?

    are they saying that 2 feet must be on the pegs?
    are they saying no backing it in?
    are they saying that motards must ride like road bikes in the f3 races?
    ?
    I thought they made it very clear.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sketchy_Racer View Post
    cool im going to cross enter my 250 into supermotard now cause they get to cross enter into the formula classes, I should be allowed to cross enter into thier class surely?
    Different rules.

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    That would be Ironic for them if now that they get access to F3 the clubs cut off their class completely. Then they'll bitch they want their class back...

    Where can I find the rules for motards?


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    Ok then if they put there foot out in front of me can I run it over?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivan View Post
    Ok then if they put there foot out in front of me can I run it over?
    Yeah, and after the race it will be planted up your botty hole.

    Fact is the foot is no further out that your knee is. So I can kick a knee out of my way if needed.............common its not that bad sheeeesh

    I think also the foot comes out due to the extreme lean angles a motard can go to, there is no room for your foot on the peg at some angles hence you stick it out the front by the wheel, it DOESNT come out at right angles.

    For me its great, I never had a problem racing a SV or GSXR in F3 against motards, I think a few riders just think its wrong that a Motard can whip a sportsbike arse (in some situations) so they get all jumpy about it. I say get over it and move over we are coming to a class near you !!

    I can now enter Motards, F3 and Bears great for me !
    Ive run out of fucks to give

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    I get the feeling some of you saw the title and didn't bother reading the rule change.

    Try reading or you will be Black Flagged

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    Also pays to check with your clubs for what rules are applied for this season if their regs are already out.

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    Should be interesting....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quasievil View Post
    Yeah, and after the race it will be planted up your botty hole.

    Fact is the foot is no further out that your knee is. So I can kick a knee out of my way if needed.............common its not that bad sheeeesh

    I think also the foot comes out due to the extreme lean angles a motard can go to, there is no room for your foot on the peg at some angles hence you stick it out the front by the wheel, it DOESNT come out at right angles.

    For me its great, I never had a problem racing a SV or GSXR in F3 against motards, I think a few riders just think its wrong that a Motard can whip a sportsbike arse (in some situations) so they get all jumpy about it. I say get over it and move over we are coming to a class near you !!

    I can now enter Motards, F3 and Bears great for me !

    Didnt bother me I forgot to put a smiley on it I wernt being serious was a bit of tongue in cheek momment.
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    I think its great .
    If a Motard is out in qualifying and there is a bunch of road based bikes behind that are slower then the motard has to fuck of and join his own class to make room for the slower rider. There is only 35 bikes per class and the field is full now, so no room for a cross entered motard.
    Yay, finally its a way to rid the F3 class of motards once and for all.
    They have there own class and road based bikes are not allowed into there class , why is it a one way street if the bikes are so even / simalar ?.

    The only real sad bit is this .... if a motard rider is allowed to cross enter into the F3 class and there is no room for him in the grid after qualifying then is there a refund possible under the rules (yeah rite) or is it just another fuck up by MNZ for the local clubs to deal with ?? It will be considered the same as "failing to qualify" so refunds are not considered.

    Another case of MNZ trying to satisfy everybody without sorting it properly.

    PS; If you are a motard rider and dont like what i state , tuff , sorry.

    Paul.

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