Accident report

[Paul in NZ]

Sorry - have not been on here much and no idea if this is a repost or not - in fact I don't really care if it is because it is essential reading for all Kiwi Motorcyclists.

Now I know what conclusions I came to after reading it - but I'd be interested in others thoughts... Seriously - please take this at face value and please please read it.

[discotex]

Proves we're better at left handers than right handers. 12% of all crashes on right hand bends vs 8% left.

[jrandom]

It seems to say fairly clearly that we die because we can't control our machines.

[Paul in NZ]

It seems to say fairly clearly that we die because we can't control our machines.

Thats one interpretation - its a very well put together report and some of the info is clearly graphed.

[FJRider]

So the other 80% is on straight roads...???

[jrandom]

Thats one interpretation - its a very well put together report and some of the info is clearly graphed.

Yes, that's why my conclusion was quickly arrived at. A majority of fatal and injury crashes are the rider's fault, and a majority involve 'losing control of the motorcycle'.

Ergo, we die because we don't know how to ride.

[Ms Piggy]

Very interesting that in 2007 the majority of deaths were in riders 30yrs +

[Crisis management]

Completely off topic.....I was thinking about you yesterday Paul and wondering where you had disappeared to, good to hear you're alive and still biking.

Carry on.

[Paul in NZ]

Yes, that's why my conclusion was quickly arrived at. A majority of fatal and injury crashes are the rider's fault, and a majority involve 'losing control of the motorcycle'.

Ergo, we die because we don't know how to ride.

It does seem to knock the old it's all the bloody car drivers fault thing...

Age and bike size are a factor too... Age probably more to do with the rider demographics.

[jrandom]

Age and bike size are a factor too... Age probably more to do with the rider demographics.

Yes, that's what I thought re. age also; the stats just reflect who's riding, rather than who's more (or less) at risk when they ride.

It'd be interesting to be able to correlate these figures with driver licencing and vehicle registration information to derive some truly useful risk numbers.

[Paul in NZ]

Yes, that's what I thought re. age also; the stats just reflect who's riding, rather than who's more (or less) at risk when they ride.

It'd be interesting to be able to correlate these figures with driver licencing and vehicle registration information to derive some truly useful risk numbers.

To me, of more interest was the info on the what people were doing when they died - head ons and running out of road - very sad....

[FJRider]

Losing control is just another way of saying "Pilot error"...
Whatever "factors" influenced the "error", a wrong decision by the "pilot" caused the crash...

[chanceyy]

Makes for very interesting reading all right ..

[Usarka]

I'm surprised at the reporting of alcohol and speed, in particular speed; according to the graph 63% of fatal crashes did not have speed as a determined factor.

Positively surprised that it's not towing the normal propoganda line, and generally surprised that it's that rare as a factor.

Nice report thanks Paul.

[dipshit]

Proves we're better at left handers than right handers. 12% of all crashes on right hand bends vs 8% left.

Because if you run wide on a right hand corner you will hit gravel/ditch/fence. If you run wide on a left hand corner you have the other side of the road to use and you will only be unlucky if a vehicle is coming the other way at the time.