Basic Handling Dissappointment

**Two Smoker** · 17th March 2005, 18:45

My old man's g/f is throughly into motorbikes, she has ridden trail bikes on farms for a long time.. So She was finally convinced to get her basic handling cert and get her licence...

My old man organised the Basic handling course with John Wright... What a mistake this was... He said that he shouldnt be giving her her basic handling course (even though he did) because she had ridden on the farm and not the road (how can you ride on the road without a licence???). He then went on to brag about writing the first road code, been riding for 45 years, was Ulysess Member blah blah...

He then went on to say he failed people regularly for their basic handling course...

As far as im concerned your a dickhead mate (hopefully your fucking lurking here) Ive been riding for 15 months and you dont see me bragging about my ability to ride around the outside of people that have been riding for decades??? You also dont see me bragging about being a safer motorcyclist that has been riding for decades... As far as im concerned motorcycling should be a fun experience and about learning... Not about being a wanker...

Your fucking 60 odd years old... but it sounds like you need to grow up...

**Skunk** · 17th March 2005, 18:48

Sounds like a opinionated dork!

**MrMelon** · 17th March 2005, 18:50

What a wank.

**Kickaha** · 17th March 2005, 19:06

Originally Posted by Two Smoker

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As far as im concerned your a dickhead mate (hopefully your fucking lurking here) Ive been riding for 15 months and you dont see me bragging about my ability to ride around the outside of people that have been riding for decades??? You also dont see me bragging about being a safer motorcyclist that has been riding for decades... As far as im concerned motorcycling should be a fun experience and about learning... Not about being a wanker...

Your fucking 60 odd years old... but it sounds like you need to grow up...

And have you got the balls to tell him to his face or do a letter of complaint instead of just having a go at him on here where chances are he'll never see it.

I can understand your annoyance as tossers like that are the last thing a learner needs,is it his own business or is there someone above him you can voice your concerns with regarding his attitude?

**Coyote** · 17th March 2005, 19:06

No matter what you get into, any hobby, club or sport, there will always be that bloody wanker that you want to throttle

**Teflon** · 17th March 2005, 19:54

Originally Posted by Two Smoker

My old man organised the Basic handling course with John Wright... What a mistake this was... He said that he shouldnt be giving her her basic handling course (even though he did) because she had ridden on the farm and not the road (how can you ride on the road without a licence???). He then went on to brag about writing the first road code, been riding for 45 years, was Ulysess Member blah blah...

I can see his point. You learn good skills on the dirt, thats why fast motorcross riders equal fast road riders, well thats what i seen.

45 years is a long time, so he can't be that bad.

**Kickaha** · 17th March 2005, 19:58

Originally Posted by Teflon

45 years is a long time, so he can't be that bad.

Depends on whether its 45 years of experience or one years experience repeated 45 times

**inlinefour** · 17th March 2005, 20:00

I guess he might be lacking in other areas and has to boost his own ego to feel better? He would not like me because I would ask him this...

**Grumpy** · 17th March 2005, 20:13

I've heard some rather negative stuff about John in the past and had a meeting with him myself and came away thinking that he was a bit of a plonker.

I also know a few people who went through him to get their basic handling training, including my wife and they seem to be quite happy with him.

It's got to be the wonderful thing about motorcycling.... the diverse range of people we get to meet....

On a serious note, I would reccomend the guys that do the ride right, ride safe course. Heard nothing but good about these guys.

**Lavay** · 17th March 2005, 20:46

Hey what a plonker, sounds like a control freak, I have just been through my basic handling course at first feeling nervous, especially being female too...my tutor was awesome, he was so thorough and gave me so much advice and confidence...give that guy away....
Doug swanson all the way! he is excellent, i will go back to him before i buy my bike and have a few more lessons, braking etc....

Originally Posted by Two Smoker

My old man's g/f is throughly into motorbikes, she has ridden trail bikes on farms for a long time.. So She was finally convinced to get her basic handling cert and get her licence...

My old man organised the Basic handling course with John Wright... What a mistake this was... He said that he shouldnt be giving her her basic handling course (even though he did) because she had ridden on the farm and not the road (how can you ride on the road without a licence???). He then went on to brag about writing the first road code, been riding for 45 years, was Ulysess Member blah blah...

He then went on to say he failed people regularly for their basic handling course...

As far as im concerned your a dickhead mate (hopefully your fucking lurking here) Ive been riding for 15 months and you dont see me bragging about my ability to ride around the outside of people that have been riding for decades??? You also dont see me bragging about being a safer motorcyclist that has been riding for decades... As far as im concerned motorcycling should be a fun experience and about learning... Not about being a wanker...

Your fucking 60 odd years old... but it sounds like you need to grow up...

**Blakamin** · 17th March 2005, 20:50

Originally Posted by Two Smoker

My old man organised the Basic handling course with John Wright... What a mistake this was... He said that he shouldnt be giving her her basic handling course (even though he did) because she had ridden on the farm and not the road (how can you ride on the road without a licence???).

as opposed to taking people that only started riding 20 minutes before and let them pass and on the road with 3 hours training????? fuckwit!

Originally Posted by Two Smoker

He then went on to brag about writing the first road code

Thats probably half the reason there are so many fuckwits in cages.... and the reason NZ road rules are 50 years behind the rest of the world..

John Wright, this is for you....

**Motu** · 17th March 2005, 21:23

I was on a ride once where I came across a riding instructor who put his HD off the road and upside down in a tree,but I'd never critise his riding ability - I live in a glass house...One of my closest friends for 30 years has been a riding instructor and handling course instructor,possibly had a hand in teaching some riders here - he's never told me how to ride,but has only offered encouragement in any crazy thing I've done.

**SPman** · 17th March 2005, 21:36

Originally Posted by Lavay

Doug swanson all the way! he is excellent, i will go back to him before i buy my bike and have a few more lessons, braking etc....

Is he the guy that runs courses at the Northcote AUT site?

Have heard things both good and bad about JW. - nothing wrong with being self opinionated

although I know a couple of ladies who didnt like him at all.

**pyrocam** · 17th March 2005, 22:01

I used John Wright,
yeah I did babble about his road coad writing
and his 'great relationship' with the LTSA
and OMG did he show off his belt buckle (that ullesy whatever thing)

but he is an old fulla and he did treat me with respect. I gave him the respect he wanted and he passed me with flying colors. I figure he really enjoys what he does and I reckon he is not so bad as you portray'd him.

He gave me and the other guy some good advice and I got my license the same day, he even offered to give me a lift to the AA for the test.

I doubt very much he lurks here, he wouldnt, he would let himself be known, Ill admit he is 'opinionated' and would let himeself be known shortly.

to summarise I would recommend John, just respect him and dont give him no shit and you will be fine.
I did the basic handling skills trainer first then the test and It was all over in a couple hours. Its not that hard to just be respectful, perhaps even leniant of his, err, eccentricity? for a little while and its all good

Sorry but I reckon John was great

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