MotoGP 2012

[Oscar]

Seeing as you like stats so much, Ago is in road racing. Ricky Carmichael is the REAL GOAT.

And it obviously does...else you wouldn't keep mentioning Rossi's nine titles, which has nothing at all to do with Stoner handing his arse to him on a plate does it now?

I understand now why the Rossi fans are generally Stoner haters. The Stoner haters also moan about Stoner as much as Stoner himself moans. Funny really.

You're the guy that keeps saying that Stoner beats Rossi head to head. I'm merely pointing out that Sheene beat Ago head to head, but that don't change history.

I never said that Rossi was the GOAT. I said he was one of the greatest (actually I may have only inferred that by saying Capirossi wasn't). I only mentioned the nine titles in response to your head to head comment. Anyway - I don't hate Stoner. Actually there's very few people that I actually HATE. Hating takes a lot of energy and I wouldn't be wasting energy on Stoner.

What does make me laugh is the heat generated on behalf of Stoner (& Rossi to be fair). We live in an age of freakish talent that hasn't been seen since Lawson, Rainey, Schwantz, Gardiner and Doohan raced together. I love it.

[Oscar]

Ah no. Wasn't Honda that made them add 4kgs to the bike at the last minute. Nor did Honda suddenly make the tyres that worked on it no longer avail to them.

The tyres are a result of the riders being asked which ones they wanted. Not surprisingly, there were only two votes against the new ones.

The comment I was refering to was Stoner whining about the change from 990 to 800. He blamed the organisers, when it was actually Honda who rammed that through.

[Crasherfromwayback]

We live in an age of freakish talent that hasn't been seen since Lawson, Rainey, Schwantz, Gardiner and Doohan raced together. I love it.

Me too. Love winding people up as well. Love him or hate him (dislike then)...Stoner will be a big loss to the sport I reckon. If Rossi doesn't get his groove back (I personally think he will), and MM doesn't step up to the plate...gonna get REAL boring watching Lorenzo win everything in sight. Cause man...that fucker is FAST!

[Oscar]

Me too. Love winding people up as well. Love him or hate him (dislike then)...Stoner will be a big loss to the sport I reckon. If Rossi doesn't get his groove back (I personally think he will), and MM doesn't step up to the plate...gonna get REAL boring watching Lorenzo win everything in sight. Cause man...that fucker is FAST!

Yeah, but are you the winder or the windee...:shifty:

[Crasherfromwayback]

The tyres are a result of the riders being asked which ones they wanted. Not surprisingly, there were only two votes against the new ones.

The comment I was refering to was Stoner whining about the change from 990 to 800. He blamed the organisers, when it was actually Honda who rammed that through.

An interesting thing about the tyres on the Hondas. The testers and the sat teams all think they're ok.. But as Stoner and Pedro both say...wait till you do the same lap times we're doing! It's always struck me as a bit odd. The factories using their own 'test riders' that can't duplicate the sort of times the racers do. Things that work well at 2 mins 15 secs may not at 2 mins 14.

And let's be honest Oscar...who the hell WAS happy about going to 800cc.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah, but are you the winder or the windee...:shifty:

Believe it or not...I really couldn't give a shit about anything other than awesome action. Tis why I love watching Stoner as much as I do. But once he's gone...I don't care other than missing his action. Don't know the guy, never met him, never will, couldn't care less! Would quite like to meet his Mrs though.:sunny:

[Oscar]

And let's be honest Oscar...who the hell WAS happy about going to 800cc.

Problem is - it was supposed to slow 'em down, but just increased the corner speed.
Now how they gonna do it?
Tank size?

[Tony.OK]

Problem is - it was supposed to slow 'em down, but just increased the corner speed.
Now how they gonna do it?
Tank size?

CRT............................:facepalm::whistle:

[Oscar]

CRT............................:facepalm::whistle:


Errgghhh....that's about field size and money...bring on the customer MotoGP bikes:Punk:

[White trash]

Problem is - it was supposed to slow 'em down, but just increased the corner speed.
Now how they gonna do it?
Tank size?

4 speed gearboxes.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Problem is - it was supposed to slow 'em down, but just increased the corner speed.
Now how they gonna do it?
Tank size?

Interesting thing is...looks like the thous are going round the corners faster again than the 800's!

And I don't think we should slow them down.


4 speed gearboxes.

Oi fuckface. Get your own ideas.

[ecko_nzed]

Yep, right you are, teach me to post facts without checking'em first.

Facts have no place in this thread.

Sent from my HTC One V using Tapatalk 2

[HenryDorsetCase]

4 speed gearboxes.

and single cylinder. Make the Manx Norton the MotoGP wapon of choice. Or bring back forced induction a la pre WW2

[SimJen]

One make, 9 cylinder 250's, desmo valves, catastrophic rev limit ;), massive jellybean fairing, no tc or abs or dttc etc
Move them in line with bikes we can actually buy :woohoo:

[george formby]

An interesting thing about the tyres on the Hondas. The testers and the sat teams all think they're ok.. But as Stoner and Pedro both say...wait till you do the same lap times we're doing! It's always struck me as a bit odd. The factories using their own 'test riders' that can't duplicate the sort of times the racers do. Things that work well at 2 mins 15 secs may not at 2 mins 14.



That's pertinent. I was just reading about an endurance racing team who tested prototypes for Michelin and invited a journo to participate. He thought the tires he was on were horrible until at the end of his laps he managed to get closer to the racers times, at that point they became amazing. So I guess the opposite can be true.

[Crasherfromwayback]

One make, 9 cylinder 250's, desmo valves, catastrophic rev limit ;), massive jellybean fairing, no tc or abs or dttc etc
Move them in line with bikes we can actually buy :woohoo:

Sooner we get back to two strokes the better. Direct injection (nice and clean for the peeps that actually care) and 500cc. No electronics. Sorted.

[Oscar]

Sooner we get back to two strokes the better. Direct injection (nice and clean for the peeps that actually care) and 500cc. No electronics. Sorted.

Direct injection 500 two strokes with no electronics?
What would they make?
250hp?

They'd peel the back tyre off the rim...

[Oscar]

So who is going to Philip Island?
I got my flights and accom. booked.

Bring it on!!!!!!!!!!!

[merv]

Facts have no place in this thread.

Sent from my HTC One V using Tapatalk 2

So don't bother adding that stupid sentence that this is from your friggin phone we don't need those facts.

[Mental Trousers]

So don't bother adding that stupid sentence that this is from your friggin phone we don't need those facts.

It's done automatically you drop kick

[george formby]

Sooner we get back to two strokes the better. Direct injection (nice and clean for the peeps that actually care) and 500cc. No electronics. Sorted.
Somebody here said if they won lotto they would buy enough Suter 500's to set up a one make championship. I think we should all chip in on the tickets if we get free entry to the races.

[SimJen]

see here: http://www.cycleworld.com/2012/08/13/two-stroke-resurrection/

[Oscar]

It's done automatically you drop kick

...another fact we don't need:shifty:

[merv]

It's done automatically you drop kick

Only if you have that superfluous feature turned on arse face.

[Mental Trousers]

Only if you have that superfluous feature turned on arse face.

Best you instruct him how to turn it off then cos he may not know. But then he might just leave it on to piss you off :girlfight:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Direct injection 500 two strokes with no electronics?
What would they make?
250hp?

They'd peel the back tyre off the rim...

Maybe we'd let them use sun pins then.

[SimJen]

I typed this while i was on my Apple Ifad 6.91



Posted on my Apple Ifad 6.91

[Oscar]

Best you instruct him how to turn it off then cos he may not know. But then he might just leave it on to piss you off :girlfight:

I have a mate whose messages come from his "Flash as fuck deadly Sumsung tablet".

So obviously it can be edited, too...

[Crasherfromwayback]

So who is going to Philip Island?
I got my flights and accom. booked.

Bring it on!!!!!!!!!!!

Me! Gotta see my BF off! And this year will be xtra good,as they're having the Supercross Masters at the Island by Lukey Heights on Sat night as well. Rach is working on the med team there on her way back from her end of year placement as well. Can't fuggin wait actually.

Sent by me from my fuggin puta.

[Crasherfromwayback]

see here: http://www.cycleworld.com/2012/08/13/two-stroke-resurrection/

Yeah it's only a matter of time I reckon. Then if Dorna have their head still that far up their arse I hope someone with serious clout starts up a runaway series with two strokes that takes over Moto GP.

[Oscar]

Me! Gotta see my BF off! And this year will be xtra good,as they're having the Supercross Masters at the Island by Lukey Heights on Sat night as well. Rach is working on the med team there on her way back from her end of year placement as well. Can't fuggin wait actually.

Sent by me from my fuggin puta.

I wanted to go to KL too, but it was too much hassle workwise.
We're staying in Cowes - we should meet for a couplathree pints...





Sent by me from my stink work computer whilst I should be fucking working not talkin' shit on the interweb.

[Oscar]

Yeah it's only a matter of time I reckon. Then if Dorna have their head still that far up their arse I hope someone with serious clout starts up a runaway series with two strokes that takes over Moto GP.

They looked at it for Moto3, I guess it was still too early.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I wanted to go to KL too, but it was too much hassle workwise.
We're staying in Cowes - we should meet for a couplathree pints...





Sent by me from my stink work computer whilst I should be fucking working not talkin' shit on the interweb.

I'm staying with my Cuz who lives on the Island with her BF. He's a good mate of John Clarkes and is also a really funny cunt. Beer will be had. We probably owe each other a few by now.

Sent by me as there's no one to sell bikes to today and I'm bored.

[Oscar]

I'm staying with my Cuz who lives on the Island with her BF. He's a good mate of John Clarkes and is also a really funny cunt. Beer will be had. We probably owe each other a few by now.

Sent by me as there's no one to sell bikes to today and I'm bored.

I told Mike I wanna start one of the races.
At that point he seemed to be having trouble with his phone..




Sent from me at my desk, wasting time.

[ecko_nzed]

So don't bother adding that stupid sentence that this is from your friggin phone we don't need those facts.

Sorry boss, won't happen again!

Sent from my HTC One V using Tapatalk 2 just to fuck off merv

[merv]

Sorry boss, won't happen again!

Sent from my HTC One V using Tapatalk 2 just to fuck off merv

Haha, it was you that said we shouldn't have facts on this thread.

[cmoore]

just bought a motogp video pass for the second half of the season.......awesome on board views.....really impressed so far......great resolution....if it is ok then i will get the full pass next season...now i need to hook it up to my TV ready for the weekend

[Crasherfromwayback]

just bought a motogp video pass for the second half of the season.......awesome on board views.....really impressed so far......great resolution....if it is ok then i will get the full pass next season...now i need to hook it up to my TV ready for the weekend

Best money you can spend eh! So much etter than poxy Sky. Plus you can watch all the old races etc. Awesome.

[Mental Trousers]

Just occasionally Casey Stoner is a G.C. off the bike

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/sport/sportresults/MotoGP/2012/August/aug1512-stoner-slams-rossi-yamaha-return/

[Crasherfromwayback]

Just occasionally Casey Stoner is a G.C. off the bike

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/sport/sportresults/MotoGP/2012/August/aug1512-stoner-slams-rossi-yamaha-return/

Yeah I've just had an argument on FB regarding that. KB was brought up. Because I do it here...I'm not allowed to there. Even though the Rossi lover was doing same.

I think it's fucking hilarious...and fair enough too. But then...I would!

[merv]

I've always liked Stoner's straight up honest views and its always amazed me others have called it whining or whinging. Generally he has been the one suffering from others' cracks like Rossi saying Stoner wasn't riding the Ducati hard enough and I don't blame him getting his own back on the "ambitious" one.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I've always liked Stoner's straight up honest views and its always amazed me others have called it whining or whinging. Generally he has been the one suffering from others' cracks like Rossi saying Stoner wasn't riding the Ducati hard enough and I don't blame him getting his own back on the "ambitious" one.

Eaxactly Merv. Rossi's arrogance regarding the things he said about Stoner on the Ducati have certainly blown up in his face. He always played mind games with his rivals. This one backfired a beauty. Serves him fucking right.

[merv]

Pete who's FB you been arguing on coz I haven't seen comments on your FB?

[Brian d marge]

There still hasnt been any comments as to "why " or indeed as to " how " the ducke" ( sp intended) wasnt / couldnt be sorted

its the engineers who do the design , from feedback from the rossi crew ........

and engineers are held in check by accountants and managers

Stephen

[Shaun]

There still hasnt been any comments as to "why " or indeed as to " how " the ducke" ( sp intended) wasnt / couldnt be sorted

its the engineers who do the design , from feedback from the rossi crew ........

and engineers are held in check by accountants and managers

Stephen



And there is the awnser and the reason behind the sell out, NO MONEY left to borrow to stay afloat

[Brian d marge]

And there is the awnser and the reason behind the sell out, NO MONEY left to borrow to stay afloat

aint that the truth ,,,,writing on the wall??? will we see the Duke in the bucket class????

Stephen

[Tony.OK]

I wanna see a grudge race post season with Casey and Rossi both on the Ducati...............I know who I'd have my money on, and it wouldn't be an Italian.
It'd be a good marketing show for the spaghetti bike too hahaa!!!

[BIG DOUG]

Ahh,audi now own ducati so I don't think money or getting the right people will be a problem.

[5150]

I find this interresting:

"Well here’s some facts for you, Stoner’s record:

2007 10 wins
2008 6 wins
2009 4 wins
2010 3 wins

Some might call that a trend.

Now I very much believe that Stoner rode the hell out of an inferior bike for at least 2 of those years, and that Rossi has not ridden the hell out of his bike. For that alone, Stoner gets kudos. But I think Stoner left Ducati at juuuuust the right time to keep his “god on a desmosedici” status intact. Had he stayed another year, I think a winless season was a very real possibility."

[Crasherfromwayback]

Now I very much believe that Stoner rode the hell out of an inferior bike for at least 2 of those years, and that Rossi has not ridden the hell out of his bike. For that alone, Stoner gets kudos. But I think Stoner left Ducati at juuuuust the right time to keep his “god on a desmosedici” status intact. Had he stayed another year, I think a winless season was a very real possibility."

We'll never know. But I think all of the people that said Stoner was a useless development rider can quite safely say they were wrong. It's now more than obvious that Ducati simply won't listen. It's widely believed Rossi is the best development rider in the world. And if he can't sort it out, or even get Ducati to listen/do what he wants/needs...what chance did Stoner have when he was winning races on it?

[denill]

It's widely believed Rossi is the best development rider in the world. And if he can't sort it out, or even get Ducati to listen/do what he wants/needs...what chance did Stoner have when he was winning races on it?

More like - Rossi & Burgess are fhe best development team. BTW what's going to happen to JB?

[Crasherfromwayback]

More like - Rossi & Burgess are fhe best development team. BTW what's going to happen to JB?

That too. Join Rossi back at Yamaha I would imagine. If he doesn't retire.

[pritch]

I've always liked Stoner's straight up honest views and its always amazed me others have called it whining or whinging.

One of the podcasts I listened to reported that a lot of people in the GP paddock were pleased Stoner is leaving because of the unremitting negativity surrounding him.

"Straight up"? Not always. He recently fired a rant at Dorna about a rule change when everybody in the paddock knew that the change was initiated at the request of Honda. Apparently he is familiar with the expression, "Do not bite the hand that feeds you."
(Even if he has never quite managed to figure out where the money actually comes from...)

His latest shots at Rossi are mostly fair enough but there is apparently at least one error. People who know more than me maintain that Burgess' quote about it taking 80 seconds to fix the bike was not made in respect of the Ducati or any of the other factory bikes but a satellite bike. Although this statement has often been attributed to Burgess, I'd like to see the original quote.

I think everybody realises now what a brilliant job Stoner did on the Ducati. The fact that Ducati have signed Dovizioso is apparently construed as an indication that they intend to try and fix the bike. Had they signed Crutchlow it would have indicated that they were trying to fluke another Stoner.

Last night I read a short history of champions who had returned to a make where they previously enjoyed success. Not at all encouraging, some won a GP or two but none of those listed won another championship.

I hope Yamaha don't knobble Rossi's bike and that we get to see the best man win. Whoever that may be.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I hope Yamaha don't knobble Rossi's bike and that we get to see the best man win. Whoever that may be?

I'm with you there! I want to see Rossi and Lorenzo trading paint!

[pritch]

I'm with you there! I want to see Rossi and Lorenzo trading paint!

Well the two occasions that spring to mind are some of the most brilliant racing I can recall. There have been moments, like Rossi's pass on Gibernau, or his effort on Stoner at laguna Seca. But those two protracted efforts at Catalunya (and Motegi?) were special.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Well the two occasions that spring to mind are some of the most brilliant racing I can recall. There have been moments, like Rossi's pass on Gibernau, or his effort on Stoner at laguna Seca. But those two protracted efforts at Catalunya (and Motegi?) were special.

As I've said many times now. Gloves off...Rossi is certainly one of the best if not THE best ever. Although I still think cutting across the dirt in the corkscrew at Laguna is actually outside of the rules! But it sure was a great race all the same.

[Mental Trousers]

I think everybody realises now what a brilliant job Stoner did on the Ducati. The fact that Ducati have signed Dovizioso is apparently construed as an indication that they intend to try and fix the bike. Had they signed Crutchlow it would have indicated that they were trying to fluke another Stoner.

Putting Dovi on the thing, setting up a Ducati Junior team and the management restructure all indicate that they're getting serious about reversing their form of the last few years.

If you can thank Rossi for one thing it's for showing that the current bike really isn't up to the job. Ducati have finally taken that onboard and are doing what is required to fix it.

[Oscar]

Putting Dovi on the thing, setting up a Ducati Junior team and the management restructure all indicate that they're getting serious about reversing their form of the last few years.

If you can thank Rossi for one thing it's for showing that the current bike really isn't up to the job. Ducati have finally taken that onboard and are doing what is required to fix it.

I'd love to know what the Audi board thinks.

I think the Germans are a safe pair of hands for Ducati business wise, but they don't stand out as a massive investor in motorsport.
The only things I can think of is Sportscars, DTM and their SEAT rally stuff.

[McWild]

I'd love to know what the Audi board thinks.

I think the Germans are a safe pair of hands for Ducati business wise, but they don't stand out as a massive investor in motorsport.
The only things I can think of is Sportscars, DTM and their SEAT rally stuff.

Uh... LeMans?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_24_Hours_of_Le_Mans_winners#Most_Wins_2

Edit: my mistake, I see why you capitalised Sportscars now.

[denill]

Stoner, telling it how he sees it. :yes:

Some call it 'moaning', ha ha...............

http://tensport.com.au/news/newsarticles/Motor-Racing-Stoner-launces-MotoGP-attack-on-Rossi.htm

[Crasherfromwayback]

Stoner, telling it how he sees it. :yes:

Some call it 'moaning', ha ha...............

http://tensport.com.au/news/newsarticles/Motor-Racing-Stoner-launces-MotoGP-attack-on-Rossi.htm

I was loving it. You ask the guy a question...he gives you an answer without pulling any punches. Too many people are scared to speak out regarding Rossi. You should see the shit sligging on FB that's gone down!

[merv]

Pete where do we find that "shit sligging on FB"?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Pete where do we find that "shit sligging on FB"?

Raj Sarin
Casey Stoner you big mouthed fuckwit, bagging a 9 times champ after a couple of wins, you make yourself look like an immature twat with comments like that. You hear Rossi bagging you for running away now that you have a gf and kid? Racing is about persevering not running away. Fuck you, I have 0% respect for you and would love to see you off that grid forever.
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[merv]

Yeah but who's FB is that on?

[ecko_nzed]

So if Stoner is sick of racing maybe Ducati could offer him a part time job developing their bike in 2013. Help keep baby Stoner in nappies and mummy Stoner in tight clothes :rolleyes:

[Shaun]

god you people are stupid ....and i have just wasted 45 seconds of my life typing this reply ....doo:Oops:


Stephen


haha I have tried telling them that for years mate, but they jusyt say I am full of shit with a bad attitude O well

[Drew]

haha I have tried telling them that for years mate, but they jusyt say I am full of shit with a bad attitude O wellUmmm...Bites tongue and wanders off to cook some toast.

[DidJit]

Casey Stoner (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/182890/1/stoner_not_surprised_by_rossis_yamaha_return.html? utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=rss) about that Ten Sport "story"...


Stoner also used the Indianapolis press conference to 'clarify' a story originating from publications in both the UK and Australia this week, in which Stoner blasted Rossi and his crew chief Jerry Burgess for their inability to improve the Ducati and also accused the seven time MotoGP champion of a 'lack of effort'.

Stoner said the story was not as recent as it appeared, but stood by the comments.

“I want to clarify that,” said Stoner. “There was a lot of context taken out. It was the whole last year and a half. I never did [an] interview and said anything like that last week. I still stand by what I said, but it's been over the last year and a half that it was put together.”

Oh, and a bit of a read (http://motomatters.com/analysis/2012/08/16/rossi_ducati_and_yamaha_and_the_winner_i.html?utm_ source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MotoGPMatters+%28MotoMatters% 29) if you're inclined.

[pritch]

Oh, and a bit of a read (http://motomatters.com/analysis/2012/08/16/rossi_ducati_and_yamaha_and_the_winner_i.html?utm_ source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MotoGPMatters+%28MotoMatters% 29) if you're inclined.

That's a very good read. I came across it at 4.00AM or thereabout this morning. Not tired enough to sleep apparently, but too tired to get out of bed and post a link...

Glad I don't work Fridays any more and can sleep in if I want...

[merv]

Funny thing is that latest article on Stoner makes him sound quite relaxed and happy to talk about how he sees things without any sign of moaning and just points out the other article wasn't an interview but a pieced together thing by journos, yet all the naysayers come out of the woodwork and post vile comments berating him for what he says - go figure.

This is nothing new go back over 30 years - Phil Read versus Ago in GP or Phil read vs Graeme Crosby at the Isle of Man, or more recently when Carl Fogarty was racing or John Kocinski vs Aaron Slight. One person's "prick" is another person's "hero".

Naturally whoever is winning has the upper hand and depending on personality does different things with it. Stoner got bagged by Rossi so why not repay the compliment. Jorge is happily winning and Rossi couldn't really bag him back when, so Jorge can just stay quietly confident and he does. Dani has not stepped into a championship win so has no win to base any confidence on so rightly goes about quietly trying to get there knowing in the past a few injuries penalised him, but I'd say deep down he knows Stoner and Jorge have him beat. Because he's kept his mouth shut he gets no lip in return.

Its all just law of the jungle. Anyone bagging Stoner now is really practising the "tall poppy syndrome" or their own "small penis syndrome".

I'm probably starting to sound like crasher on this but at interview time with Stoner I normally see a smiling reasonably contented guy just calling it like he saw it. Maybe that's why he's so good, perhaps he is a great development rider because he can explain in plain language exactly what the bike is doing and what he needs from it and Honda listen (or is that "risten") to him and respond.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I'm probably starting to sound like crasher on this but at interview time with Stoner I normally see a smiling reasonably contented guy just calling it like he saw it. Maybe that's why he's so good, perhaps he is a great development rider because he can explain in plain language exactly what the bike is doing and what he needs from it and Honda listen (or is that "risten") to him and respond.

Part of the reason (apart from his balls out riding style) I've been a Stoner fan, is I love seeing a lil Aussie Battler doing it the hard way, with all of the sacrifices he and his family made to get him there. He wasn't born into Moto GP with a silver spoon in his mouth.

The commitment he and his family made and the hardship they all went through is testament to what type of people they are. Fucking champions. Go Stoner!!

[steveyb]

Check out the video of the MotoGP boys at the Indiannapolis Indians park. Marc Marquez throws like a girl.



To be fair though (as much as it pains me) after breaking AC joint in right shoulder most people will throw like that (assume that he has broken shoulder once or more. If not, then he just throws like a girl).

[Crasherfromwayback]

To be fair though (as much as it pains me) after breaking AC joint in right shoulder most people will throw like that (assume that he has broken shoulder once or more. If not, then he just throws like a girl).

I had to stop playing competitive tennis (yeah gay I know) when I first fucked my right shoulder.

[denill]

I had to stop playing competitive tennis (yeah gay I know) when I first fucked my right shoulder.

Fucked up shoulders are just a part of motorcycling :rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Fucked up shoulders are just a part of motorcycling :rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Can be yes. I've rooted both of mine a few times.

[cmoore]

so anyway........predictions for the weekend?.....

Spies to win
Stoner taken out by Rossi at the first corner
Lorenzo second
Pedrosa third

[Crasherfromwayback]

so anyway........predictions for the weekend?.....

Spies to win
Stoner taken out by Rossi at the first corner
Lorenzo second
Pedrosa third

Stoner

Pedrosa

Dovi

Hayden

Crutchless

Lorenzo hits the deck.

[tigertim20]

Stoner

Pedrosa

Dovi

Hayden

Crutchless

Lorenzo hits the deck.

hmmm, stoner and lorenzo within a second of each other (not necessarily in that order)

pedrosa, then dovi, and crutchlow - in that order

[Crasherfromwayback]

hmmm, stoner and lorenzo within a second of each other (not necessarily in that order)

pedrosa, then dovi, and crutchlow - in that order

Well for sure Stoner's gotta win a few on the trott to get back into it. And Lorenzo hasn't crashed of his own accord this year...as Stoner didn't last year. A sign? I want to see it come down to the very last round in Valencia man! Between Lorenzo, Stoner AND Pedro!!

[Shaun]

Ummm...Bites tongue and wanders off to cook some toast.



wow. I typed that just for you also

[tail_end_charlie]

Stoner (cause I want the points to close up)
Pedrosa (see above)
Lorenzo
Cal
Dovi

And something either breaks or falls off Spies bike (Conspiracy!!!!!!!)

[Crasherfromwayback]

.....had everything so easy all his life .

Love to hear how you worked this bit out?

[merv]

cmoore see my post #2320 paragraph 5 for an analysis of your comment http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/143255-MotoGP-2012?p=1130378897#post1130378897.

[Shaun]

Love to hear how you worked this bit out?


vbery easy dude, it is called mumy and dady decided THEY wanted him to be a professional racer so THEY sold everything THEY had and took him overseas and spent all THERE money

NOTE, Not once did the word HE apare in this?

His wife is also a very spoilt little girl, Adelaide is a small city and ya learn things fast here

[Oscar]

now that i have a motogp video pass i watched the full indi press conference.....I like stoner even less.....he started by saying riders should respect each other and then proceeded to put rossi down with every answer he gave...(ok slight exageration..)....he came accross to me as a spoilt bratt.....had everything so easy all his life that he struggles to be motivated for these races....he should fuck off now....

Do actually know anything about Stoner?
I'm no fan, but I respect his tenacity and he earned everything he's got.

[Crasherfromwayback]

vbery easy dude, it is called mumy and dady decided THEY wanted him to be a professional racer so THEY sold everything THEY had and took him overseas and spent all THERE money

NOTE, Not once did the word HE apare in this?

His wife is also a very spoilt little girl, Adelaide is a small city and ya learn things fast here

Never thought I'd see the day you'd say something like that Shaun. He's been racing bikes since he was four years old. How would you think he could contribute anything but the talent? Do you think he lived in flash hotel etc the whole time too?

And what thee fuck has his wife got to do with anything?

Sounds like you hang with a lot of bitter & twisted people mate.

[Oscar]

Never thought I'd see the day you'd say something like that Shaun. He's been racing bikes since he was four years old. How would you think he could contribute anything but the talent? Do you think he lived in flash hotel etc the whole time too?

And what thee fuck has his wife got to do with anything?

Sounds like you hang with a lot of bitter & twisted people mate.

The Stoners shared a motor home with another family while he raced in the UK.
He hasn't been to school since he was about 13.
Not my idea of being spoiled...

[pritch]

We sometimes expect too much of these young guys. They are in the position they are in by having developed tunnel vision and devoted pretty much their entire life to becoming a GP rider. Then we expect them to be well rounded individuals?

We stick them under a TV microscope and are surprised that ocasionally someone looks a prat. Fuck I'm glad nobody was watching me on telly when I was their age...

Some are improving: Lorenzo has realised that he has missed a lot and is reportedly trying to educate himself. Pedrosa actually smiles sometimes, and he and Lorenzo have developed a mutual respect in place of their former antipathy.

Stoner is Stoner, some like him, some don't. At least he's consistent.

Oh, and I just forked for the half season video pass...

[Crasherfromwayback]

The Stoners shared a motor home with another family while he raced in the UK.
He hasn't been to school since he was about 13.
Not my idea of being spoiled...

Anyone that thinks either Stoner's had it easy or is spoilt is delusional. And very jealous too.

[denill]

We sometimes expect too much of these young guys. They are in the position they are in by having developed tunnel vision and devoted pretty much their entire life to becoming a GP rider. Then we expect them to be well rounded individuals?

We stick them under a TV microscope and are surprised that ocasionally someone looks a prat. Fuck I'm glad nobody was watching me on telly when I was their age...

Some are improving: Lorenzo has realised that he has missed a lot and is reportedly trying to educate himself. Pedrosa actually smiles sometimes, and he and Lorenzo have developed a mutual respect in place of their former antipathy.

Stoner is Stoner, some like him, some don't. At least he's consistent.

Oh, and I just forked for the half season video pass...

There is no room for comments such as the above on this thread................

Balanced, well reasoned and well phrased comments are just plain out of place. :yes:

[Crasherfromwayback]

We sometimes expect too much of these young guys. They are in the position they are in by having developed tunnel vision and devoted pretty much their entire life to becoming a GP rider. Then we expect them to be well rounded individuals?

We stick them under a TV microscope and are surprised that ocasionally someone looks a prat. Fuck I'm glad nobody was watching me on telly when I was their age...

Some are improving: Lorenzo has realised that he has missed a lot and is reportedly trying to educate himself. Pedrosa actually smiles sometimes, and he and Lorenzo have developed a mutual respect in place of their former antipathy.

Stoner is Stoner, some like him, some don't. At least he's consistent.

Oh, and I just forked for the half season video pass...

Too right mate. Dunno why they can't simply enjoy what they're seeing.

[denill]

Too right mate. Dunno why they can't simply enjoy what they're seeing.

Yeah, Pritch obviously gains a lot of enjoyment from MotoGP - where as the bitter sad arses just become even more bitter sad arses.

[The Chow]

Never thought I'd see the day you'd say something like that Shaun. He's been racing bikes since he was four years old. How would you think he could contribute anything but the talent? Do you think he lived in flash hotel etc the whole time too?

And what thee fuck has his wife got to do with anything?

Sounds like you hang with a lot of bitter & twisted people mate.

For fuck sake , why don't people just get over themselves , I'm a Rossi fan first , But fuck Stoner is impressive in his riding. He is no more stuck up than what Wayne Gardiner was when he was the hot shot Aussie. MotoGP will be the lesser for not having Stoner there , until the next guy comes along.:done:

[pritch]

In case any of you don't already know, the LCR team put out a magazine, "Inspire". Yes, Bradl features large, but so do other riders both current and historic. They also do articles on paddock personalities from other teams, other famous people - and tasty looking ladies.

It's a classy little number, if it appears somewhat erratically.

http://www.inspire-lcr.com

[Crasherfromwayback]

...or that the honda mechanics didn't work hard enough when they had a left hand track because the bike works well on a left hand track but not on a right hand track.....honest for sure.

Fuck you've got it bad mate. Sure you don't actually lust after him? How the fuck do you get what you've said out of what he said? Stoner took some of his crew from Ducati with him to Honda, and I think you'll find one thing he always does is use the term 'we' not 'I'. He's extemely loyal to his team...hence why he lashed out at Rossi and Burgess. Because he saw what they were saying about the set up of the Ducati as a slight on them.

Do yourself a favour. Next time he wins a race...check how he says 'we' worked well together, and 'we' found something that worked, and 'we' had a good race.

When he bins it, as he did in Germany...check how it turns into 'I' made a mistake. Not 'We'.

[BMWST?]

One of the podcasts I listened to reported that a lot of people in the GP paddock were pleased Stoner is leaving because of the unremitting negativity surrounding him.

"Straight up"? Not always. He recently fired a rant at Dorna about a rule change when everybody in the paddock knew that the change was initiated at the request of Honda. Apparently he is familiar with the expression, "Do not bite the hand that feeds you."
(Even if he has never quite managed to figure out where the money actually comes from...)

His latest shots at Rossi are mostly fair enough but there is apparently at least one error. People who know more than me maintain that Burgess' quote about it taking 80 seconds to fix the bike was not made in respect of the Ducati or any of the other factory bikes but a satellite bike. Although this statement has often been attributed to Burgess, I'd like to see the original quote.

I think everybody realises now what a brilliant job Stoner did on the Ducati. The fact that Ducati have signed Dovizioso is apparently construed as an indication that they intend to try and fix the bike. Had they signed Crutchlow it would have indicated that they were trying to fluke another Stoner.

Last night I read a short history of champions who had returned to a make where they previously enjoyed success. Not at all encouraging, some won a GP or two but none of those listed won another championship.

I hope Yamaha don't knobble Rossi's bike and that we get to see the best man win. Whoever that may be.


We sometimes expect too much of these young guys. They are in the position they are in by having developed tunnel vision and devoted pretty much their entire life to becoming a GP rider. Then we expect them to be well rounded individuals?

We stick them under a TV microscope and are surprised that ocasionally someone looks a prat. Fuck I'm glad nobody was watching me on telly when I was their age...

Some are improving: Lorenzo has realised that he has missed a lot and is reportedly trying to educate himself. Pedrosa actually smiles sometimes, and he and Lorenzo have developed a mutual respect in place of their former antipathy.

Stoner is Stoner, some like him, some don't. At least he's consistent.

Oh, and I just forked for the half season video pass...
I cant quite reconcile these two posts......

[Shaun]

Never thought I'd see the day you'd say something like that Shaun. He's been racing bikes since he was four years old. How would you think he could contribute anything but the talent? Do you think he lived in flash hotel etc the whole time too?

And what thee fuck has his wife got to do with anything?

Sounds like you hang with a lot of bitter & twisted people mate.



Pete, just like you I say it as I see it! Casey is an amazingly talented rider, just the sad fact that due to his up bringing, he has NO people skills. Mum and Dad wanted him to be a proffesional racer so took him out of the normal society upbringing style, ie no school etc

Re his wife, it takes one to know one

The people I hang out with here, actually know Casey and his wife very personally, no they are not as you described, they are just realistic honest folk whom also like you and I, say it as it is.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Pete, just like you I say it as I see it! Casey is an amazingly talented rider, just the sad fact that due to his up bringing, he has NO people skills. Mum and Dad wanted him to be a proffesional racer so took him out of the normal society upbringing style, ie no school etc


The people I hang out with here, actually know Casey and his wife very personally, no they are not as you described, they are just realistic honest folk whom also like you and I, say it as it is.

Isn't that what Casey does too though? Say it like it is? And how could he be normal mate? He's had no childhood like you and I probably did. No real mates at school,as he was never there. No drunken piss ups while wagging school with you mates. No stink finger behind the bike sheds. No smoking a bit of weed. No fuck all. Just living in a caravan for what...10 years? Until he got noticed enough to get a factory ride? And you think he's spoilt?

Sheesh you're a harder cunt than I though you were. And that's saying something! :innocent:

[Shaun]

Isn't that what Casey does too though? Say it like it is? And how could he be normal mate? He's had no childhood like you and I probably did. No real mates at school,as he was never there. No drunken piss ups while wagging school with you mates. No stink finger behind the bike sheds. No smoking a bit of weed. No fuck all. Just living in a caravan for what...10 years? Until he got noticed enough to get a factory ride? And you think he's spoilt?




Sheesh you're a harder cunt than I though you were. And that's saying something! :innocent:


Fair healthy analysis Pete

Haha to the last part

[Crasherfromwayback]

Fair healthy analysis Pete

Haha to the last part

Obviously I'm a huge fan. I admit he often does himself no favours...but from everything I've read about the guy...he'll pay his parents back ten fold for what they did for him.

And it says a lot about his parents too. To sell everything you own...to back your kid...to face the hardships they all did? Fucken awesome!

[Shaun]

Obviously I'm a huge fan. I admit he often does himself no favours...but from everything I've read about the guy...he'll pay his parents back ten fold for what they did for him.

And it says a lot about his parents too. To sell everything you own...to back your kid...to face the hardships they all did? Fucken awesome!




good on ya, im bored with internet bashing the wanker now anyhoo

[Crasherfromwayback]

good on ya, im bored with internet bashing the wanker now anyhoo

Don't think he's been doing too much 'feeding the chooks' mate. They have a baby.

[Shaun]

Don't think he's been doing too much 'feeding the chooks' mate. They have a baby.




Andrew Stroud has 9, and Im sure he dosnt know how they came about either



hahahah sorry andrew

[Crasherfromwayback]

Andrew Stroud has 9, and Im sure he dosnt know how they came about either





I reckon he'll have a fair idea by now.

[steveyb]

http://www.inspire-lcr.com

Awesome, cheers for that.

One, no two words: Eveline and Ze heft mer Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm (well that is 5 words really, but I can't count any longer.......)

[pritch]

I cant quite reconcile these two posts......

Maybe you shouldn't try? There's nothing in either that excludes anything in the other.

Well, as far as I can see. But...

[Crasherfromwayback]

What do Hayden, Stoner and Spies have in common?

Huge 'get the fuck off' highsides in qualifying. Hayden knocked unconcious, Spies ok, Stoner landed flat on his face and may've fucked an ankle. All looked REALLY ugly.

[pritch]

Several crashes in the same place and others including Rossi having "moments" there. Scary.
No wonder Wheeler reported concern in the pits.

Didn't seem to bother Pedrosa or Lorenzo too much. Yet.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Several crashes in the same place and others including Rossi having "moments" there. Scary.
No wonder Wheeler reported concern in the pits.

Didn't seem to bother Pedrosa or Lorenzo too much. Yet.

There has always been some really nasty biffs at that place eh. Yet when Stoner mentions he doesn't like the place he's a queer cunt!

Think it's season over for him as far as winning the championship! Hopefully wee Pedro can make a go of it. Always better coming down to the wire eh!

[DidJit]

Lorenzo apparently said this was the worst tarmac of the championship and he wanted improvements. He also made an observation that the riders who crashed were the ones who tended to steer with the rear more. (I'm guessing he's referring to Stoner and Hayden more than Spies?) Apparently, while the newer black asphalt is ok, the grey parts are slippery as fuck.
Interesting track to set a bike up for... :crazy:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Lorenzo apparently said this was the worst tarmac of the championship and he wanted improvements. He also made an observation that the riders who crashed were the ones who tended to steer with the rear more. (I'm guessing he's referring to Stoner and Hayden more than Spies?) Apparently, while the newer black asphalt is ok, the grey parts are slippery as fuck.
Interesting track to set a bike up for... :crazy:

Remember Schwantz getting his panties in a bunch when Stoner dared comment in a neg light on his beloved track? Funny as. If the place is a shithole...it's a shithole. No amount of history about the place can change that.

[BMWST?]

Remember Schwantz getting his panties in a bunch when Stoner dared comment in a neg light on his beloved track? Funny as. If the place is a shithole...it's a shithole. No amount of history about the place can change that.

how much use does the infeild get?Anyone know?

[Crasherfromwayback]

how much use does the infeild get?Anyone know?

Dunno. But over the course of the weekend they normally lay enough rubber to loose the 'greenness'. Think it's simply an unpredictable surface.

[DidJit]

Nicky Hayden unlikely to race (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/racing/motogp-nicky-hayden-race-indianapolis-gp/) tomorrow.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Nicky Hayden unlikely to race (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/racing/motogp-nicky-hayden-race-indianapolis-gp/) tomorrow.

Yeah he had that ugly look of a dead man sliding down the track. So glad he ain't.

[DidJit]

Yeah, knew he was out cold when I saw that. Puts a horrible feeling in the pit of your gut.

Speaking of Schwantz, his thoughts (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/Aug/120818nn87swd.htm?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter) on the track today...

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah, knew he was out cold when I saw that. Puts a horrible feeling in the pit of your gut.

Speaking of Schwantz, his thoughts (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/Aug/120818nn87swd.htm?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter) on the track today...

Sure does. And I agree with Schwantz when he says the track's the same for everyone. Sure is. Doesn't make it a great place to race though.

[pritch]

how much use does the infeild get?Anyone know?

Virtually none? I've seen discussion - can't remember where. The track is cleaned before the GP but it needs rubber on it before it has grip. That makes it very tricky for the people laying the rubber.

Rossi says the track has no grip but the tyres do, thus high sides. Then there's the question of the two different surfaces...

Rossi also said Hayden was saying strange things in the medical centre. When Hayden saw Stoner he thought they had crashed together. Concussion a given.

It's not only the big bikes, there were high sides and injuries in the Moto3 class: Jack Miller, Danny Webb and Alex Marquez were all injured in qualifying.

[The Chow]

Remember Schwantz getting his panties in a bunch when Stoner dared comment in a neg light on his beloved track? Funny as. If the place is a shithole...it's a shithole. No amount of history about the place can change that..

Spot on Mate , doesn't surprise me , look at the way Hector Barbara was treated yesterday after his crash, The Indy Yanks don't deserve a motoGP. IMAO

[Crasherfromwayback]

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Spot on Mate , doesn't surprise me , look at the way Hector Barbara was treated yesterday after his crash, The Indy Yanks don't deserve a motoGP. IMAO

Yeah I freaked when I saw that pic you posted Ian! Fuck the place. If I went to that GP, it'd actually be for the Mile on Sat night!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Bad buzz...

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/Aug/120818-69543.htm

[tail_end_charlie]

.

Spot on Mate , doesn't surprise me , look at the way Hector Barbara was treated yesterday after his crash, The Indy Yanks don't deserve a motoGP. IMAO

Was that in reference to how two people picked him up and dumped him on the stretcher? Cause I saw that too, and thought that was pretty stupid, especially after a freakin' motorcycle crash where you have a good chance of serious neck/back injuries. Though I will have to say that I've seen that done at other GPs around the world, so its not just the Yanks that do it. Still, the medical staff should know better.

[HenryDorsetCase]

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Spot on Mate , doesn't surprise me , look at the way Hector Barbara was treated yesterday after his crash, The Indy Yanks don't deserve a motoGP. IMAO
All about money and the pull that daytona motorsports guy has. It should be at Miller.

[merv]

As for Schwantz making comment, has he forgotten how he was the king of the high-side back when?

[Crasherfromwayback]

As for Schwantz making comment, has he forgotten how he was the king of the high-side back when?

He sure was a wild man. Funny he doesn't like Stoner. They're very much the same I reckon. Win it or bin it!

[Trudes]

:(
I'm just glad it wasn't worse for Nicky. My heart sunk watching that though, I never like seeing people slide across the track looking like a rag doll.

[Crasherfromwayback]

:(
I'm just glad it wasn't worse for Nikky. My heart sunk watching that though, I never like seeing people slide across the track looking like a rag doll.

Agreed. You just wait and wait...and wait. Then they move thank Christ. Normally.

[tigertim20]

shame to not have hayden on the grid.
stoners crash:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmbKYjVk4-4

[Crasherfromwayback]

Face plant.

[jasonu]

Face plant.

Yep just watched it.

On another note, is there a rule that says the CRT bikes have to be ugly?

[denill]

As for Schwantz making comment, has he forgotten how he was the king of the high-side back when?


Schwantz has gone down in my estimation. He's a fuckwit dining out on his glory.

[jasonu]

Was that in reference to how two people picked him up and dumped him on the stretcher? Cause I saw that too, and thought that was pretty stupid, especially after a freakin' motorcycle crash where you have a good chance of serious neck/back injuries. Though I will have to say that I've seen that done at other GPs around the world, so its not just the Yanks that do it. Still, the medical staff should know better.

Did you see the fat cow with the medical overalls directing the other 2 that stretchered CS away (surprising the yanks didn't have a Hummer or Corvette stretcher vehicle on hand). She was pointing them in the direction they were already going and pulling on the stretcher for no aparent reason. All the while she was clearly having issues with the gravel surface that her fat arse had to walk on. I bet she had to have a little sit down to catch her breath afterwards...

[Geeen]

Grumble bitch, now Im even more pissed my my sky didn't record it:mad:

Not sent from an iDevice

[tail_end_charlie]

Did you see the fat cow with the medical overalls directing the other 2 that stretchered CS away (surprising the yanks didn't have a Hummer or Corvette stretcher vehicle on hand). She was pointing them in the direction they were already going and pulling on the stretcher for no aparent reason. All the while she was clearly having issues with the gravel surface that her fat arse had to walk on. I bet she had to have a little sit down to catch her breath afterwards...

Sometimes it is very important to tell people (who already know where to go)......................where to go. You know, so that someone feels important. I kinda liked the fact that the guys carrying the stretcher were making better progress through the gravel pit than little miss fatty.

Anyways, my comment was in reference to how the two medical guys just sorta grabbed Hector under the armpits and by the ankles to lift him on the stretcher, AFTER HE HAD JUST CRACKED A COUPLE VERTEBRA. Granted, they didn't know that at the time, but shit, they at least ought to know how to move a person onto a stretcher in a way that won't cause any more damage to the back or neck. Those two guys sure as hell didn't do that.

[tail_end_charlie]

On another note, it's interesting to see that Randy de'Puniet is only ~1.6 s down on the pole position. Top CRT at Qatar qualified ~3.0 s down on pole, then they pretty rapidly worked that down to between 2.1 and 2.5s. At Indy it looks like Randy has managed to gain another 0.5s on the factory bikes. Granted, he's not really challenging for a podium or anything like that, but its quite possible that the top CRT tomorrow will beat some factory bikes tomorrow. (Not really taking Tony Elias into account, he's obviously going pretty slow. Or Karel Abraham for that matter.)

So is this a freak occurrence that has more to do with track conditions, all the factory bikes crashing, and other things like that? Or is this a sign that the CRT's are bit by bit chipping away at the superiority of the factory bikes? Anybody think that a CRT bike can get to within 1.0s of the pole position by the end of the season?

[Crasherfromwayback]

, it's interesting to see that Randy de'Puniet is only ~1.6 s down on the pole position.

Anybody think that a CRT bike can get to within 1.0s of the pole position by the end of the season?

Seriously dude...and this is not a dig at you personally...but really? This is GP racing. Those CRT "fuck me in the ass" bikes don't belong there.

[tail_end_charlie]

Seriously dude...and this is not a dig at you personally...but really? This is GP racing. Those CRT "fuck me in the ass" bikes don't belong there.

Not taken personally.

And why not? I mean granted, from what I understand of the rules (may be a little limited but I'm working on that) the CRT initiative is a little wonky. But I imagine that they had to make it that way for at least the first year to get people interested in actually trying. (Like having a position for the top CRT in parc fermme, bullshit to be honest, but it gives them some recognition.) So with what they have this year, it at least made it possible for a lot of non-factory teams to fabricate/part together their own "prototype" bike. I would imagine that getting them out on the grid in the first place is hardest, but once they are there its a little easier to keep them there.

Yes, this is GP racing, and yes, this has to be the fuckin' best of the best on the wildest craziest shit, but wouldn't it be a little embarrassing if there were only 12 bikes running around the track? With a distinct possibility of one manufacture dropping out and then there only being 8. At least with the CRT's out there it looks like the track is full.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Not taken personally.

And why not? I mean granted, from what I understand of the rules (may be a little limited but I'm working on that) l.

Glad.

Yeah it's the rules that are choking the class. Sometimes...less is more. Way more.

[Shaun]

Crasher, when the class F1 started racing world wide?

CRT are basically just that, we have gone around in circles as per everything else music etc etc etc

[Crasherfromwayback]

Crasher, when the class F1 started racing world wide?



Don't go for that for a min mate. There was a world F1 series, and a GP series no?

[Shaun]

Don't go for that for a min mate. There was a world F1 series, and a GP series no?


what i was implying by that is, YOU were correct, they do NOT belong in the Motogp class

[Crasherfromwayback]

what i was implying by that is, YOU were correct, they do NOT belong in the Motogp class

Sorry. Just not often I am!:sunny:

[tail_end_charlie]

what i was implying by that is, YOU were correct, they do NOT belong in the Motogp class

So MotoGP should be a factory only class? No one else should have a chance to build a bike and enter it against the 'big boys'?

Or is it just the CRT rules (as they are) that are wrong?

[tail_end_charlie]

And I'm not trying to be argumentative or anything, I just haven't been watching GP racing for donkey's ages like some of the contributors on KB.

[Shaun]

So MotoGP should be a factory only class? No one else should have a chance to build a bike and enter it against the 'big boys'?

Or is it just the CRT rules (as they are) that are wrong?



CRT teams do not have the money the factories have, so cannot afford the electronics etc

Look how slow they are to the MGP bikes, up to 30MPH slower

I am saying they do not belong, but what is the alternative to top the grids up for the TV people

[Shaun]

Sorry. Just not often I am!:sunny:


do not get used to it, I for one will make a point of not agreeing with you again for at least a month

[Crasherfromwayback]

So MotoGP should be a factory only class? No one else should have a chance to build a bike and enter it against the 'big boys'?

Or is it just the CRT rules (as they are) that are wrong?


And I'm not trying to be argumentative or anything, I just haven't been watching GP racing for donkey's ages like some of the contributors on KB.

Anyone should be able to enter the top class with a bike they've built. But the rules are making it harder and harder. In fact it'd be impossible now.

When it was 500cc two strokes...heaven forbid...NZ had a bike there!

[rachprice]

Epic that stoner rode with his broken foot/leg, as much as I love dovi getting podiums stoner rode so well on only anti-inflammatories, I wish he had of got it.

Man I dunno what spies did to fuck off god but it was something big!!

Appears Lorenzo might have got himself a cute little Asian girlfriend!

The track looks shit

[Brian d marge]

an idea how much money honda have , hrc , ( to which i prostrate my self a lot to ) is but a small part of the budget..and i mean small

at hrc , the race dept is no bigger than a couple of town houses , plus the place i work ...large industrail build, for all paper work and design.


money i think isnt a prob , as its swallowed into the org.honda


now both yamaha and honda use outside companies , yamaha have a great casting ally , honda use in house and not so much outside influence (and thats the joke around here about honda pride!!)

Suan is right about th money at ducati, as i said about the tuning of the frames, maybe people have seen the writing on the wall, shame really


Stephen

[Crasherfromwayback]

Man I dunno what spies did to fuck off god but it was something big!!

Appears Lorenzo might have got himself a cute little Asian girlfriend!

The track looks shit

Glad it wasn't Lorenzo's that shit it's self.

Yes...I saw a cute wee thing in his garage.

Sure does!

[DidJit]

Spies needs a new team, bike and crew. Oh, wait...

[DidJit]

From the man himself: Ben Spies ‏@BenSpies11


“After Qatar, Assen, Laguna and here, I don't even have to say anything. All I can do [is] give my 100 and that's not working, but I thank [you for your] support.”

[Crasherfromwayback]

From the man himself: Ben Spies ‏@BenSpies11

Yeah I can't ever remember one guy getting so many bad breaks in a season.

[5150]

Yes...I saw a cute wee thing in his garage.

Sure does!

Thats his personal fluffer. She inflates his ego before every race :shifty:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Thats his personal fluffer. She inflates his ego before every race :shifty:

I'm sure deflates it too...

[5150]

I'm sure deflates it too...

One would hope....

[merv]

Stoner didn't sound like a moaner at all here thanking the hospital http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/Aug/120819a.htm

[DidJit]

Stoner is tough. Respect to him and Crutchlow — and all those crazy riders — who get up and race with those injuries.

A little more (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/racing/ben-spies-yamaha-motogp-100-percent-effort/) on the Ben Spies/Yamaha thing...

[Crasherfromwayback]

Stoner is tough. Respect to him and Crutchlow — and all those crazy riders — who get up and race with those injuries.

A little more (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/racing/ben-spies-yamaha-motogp-100-percent-effort/) on the Ben Spies/Yamaha thing...

They're all tough bastrads for sure. Even without serious injuries...simply getting thrown off those things at the speeds they do...and getting straight back on them as if nothing happened is tough.

And what can you say 'bout Spies's luck? The smoke screen from it was awesome!

[Oscar]

They're all tough bastrads for sure. Even without serious injuries...simply getting thrown off those things at the speeds they do...and getting straight back on them as if nothing happened is tough.

And what can you say 'bout Spies's luck? The smoke screen from it was awesome!

Do you see the on board shot from Bradl's bike?
I think Stoner went wide to avoid any oil, but Bradl never buttoned off...

[DidJit]

... The smoke screen from it was awesome!

Yeah, I'm trying to find images of it — 'twas a massive puff when it went off. The onboard footage from Lorenzo's M1 showing how quickly he moved aside from the smoke was great too.

Edit: Here's one image (http://photos.motogp.com/2012/08/19/inp12_11spies_p1l0100_original.jpg).

[Crasherfromwayback]

Do you see the on board shot from Bradl's bike?
I think Stoner went wide to avoid any oil, but Bradl never buttoned off...


Yeah, I'm trying to find images of it — 'twas a massive puff when it went off. The onboard footage from Lorenzo's M1 showing how quickly he moved aside from the smoke was great too.

Edit: Here's one image (http://photos.motogp.com/2012/08/19/inp12_11spies_p1l0100_original.jpg).

Yeah it was unreal eh! Pretty freaky to suddenly lose sight of the track at those speeds I bet.

[merv]

A Japanese bike shouldn't do that - who is going to fall on his sword for that?

[Badjelly]

You should see the shit sligging on FB that's gone down!

Who gives a damn about shit sligging on FB?

[tail_end_charlie]

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/2012/motogp/indy/6/5.htm

Anybody know why JL was running with double thickness pucks on the left side? I noticed that Val was as well, and I think I remember seeing someone else too, just can't remember who. I know that they often run with double thickness in the wet, but why in the dry? And why on the left side when its a predominately left-hand track?

[DidJit]

... Anybody know why JL was running with double thickness pucks on the left side? ...?

Slippery tarmac. Keeps the lean angle that much more in the safe zone.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Slippery tarmac. Keeps the lean angle that much more in the safe zone.

Yeah I had a wee laugh at one of the captions to a picture on Superbike planet. They were saying "See how far Stoner is hanging off...so much for no grip" or summat like that.

Duh...that's why he's hanging off the thing so far.

[DidJit]

Exactly. :)

[Crasherfromwayback]

Exactly. :)

Doesn't look like a nice surface to race on at all. Still..it is the same for them all (the riders) without doubt.

[Oscar]

Yeah I had a wee laugh at one of the captions to a picture on Superbike planet. They were saying "See how far Stoner is hanging off...so much for no grip" or summat like that.

Duh...that's why he's hanging off the thing so far.


There was a shot of Bautista in qualifying at the corner where they all highsided - almost at full lean, but savagely crossed up...'kin awesome.

[Crasherfromwayback]

There was a shot of Bautista in qualifying at the corner where they all highsided - almost at full lean, but savagely crossed up...'kin awesome.

Choice! He was going alright too I reckon.

[DidJit]

Motomatters round up (http://motomatters.com/analysis/2012/08/20/2012_indianapolis_motogp_post_race_round.html?utm_ source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MotoGPMatters+%28MotoMatters% 29).

[Crasherfromwayback]

A question for cmoore. If Stoner is a wanker for inferring his team are shit and can't get the Honda sorted for right hand corners...what does this make Rossi?

The problem was not all down to Rossi, however. Indianapolis is a bad track for Ducati, the bike always suffering at left-handed tracks. "When the track goes left, I have a lot more problems," Rossi said, "I don't feel confident on the left." His only consolation was that he did not crash while pushing, the mistake he had made at Laguna. The Honda and the Ducati appear to be mirror images of one another, the RC213V loving left-handed tracks, losing the chatter which plagues the bike when the corners go right, while the Desmosedici has no feel when the track goes left.

What says you to this?

[DidJit]

If I may speculate some... not really what I like to do, but fuckit — everyone else is (on other sites), and it can be entertaining (if only for a moment).

I think Rossi really does not like that bike. In fact, I think he is so wary of it, he is just plain weary of it (and can't be fucked crashing it trying to over ride it). It also wouldn't surprise me if Ducati have surreptitiously been trying to make contact with the one and only Casey Stoner to make him a ludicrously profitable offer to return in 2013 or 2014, or even to just do a few tests for them next year while he's <del>retired</del> on sabbatical. (Does anyone really think he'll hang up his leathers for good? I don't.) Silly Season news of Cal or Andrea signing the dotted line has dried up of late and, from the past few months’ history, that has tended to mean they're talking to someone else. Hmmm...

Fun and games while there are no races or practices on. :sunny: Thankfully, Brno and Moscow are only a couple of days away...

[Crasherfromwayback]

It also wouldn't surprise me if Ducati have surreptitiously been trying to make contact with the one and only Casey Stoner to make him a ludicrously profitable offer to return in 2013 or 2014, or even to just do a few tests for them next year while he's <del>retired</del> on sabbatical. (Does anyone really think he'll hang up his leathers for good? I don't.) ...

I reckon Stoner would tell them to go fuck themselves. He too will be over trying to over ride the thing and throwing himself down the road. Especially after Indy. And after throwing Stones at Rossi for going back to Yamaha...he'd look pretty Stooopid for doing the same now wouldn't he. Good thoughts though!

As much as I'd love to see him come back...I reckon only 500cc two strokes would make him.

[DidJit]

:lol: Yeah, you're probably right.

[Brian d marge]

Poor old Spies , have yamaha been raiding the skip following his ( or even before ) his twitter message

Mech DNF at this level , poor show chaps

Stephen

[denill]

Poor old Spies , have yamaha been raiding the skip following his ( or even before ) his twitter message

Mech DNF at this level , poor show chaps

Stephen


Waiting for the book...................... ;)

[denill]

Poor old Spies , have yamaha been raiding the skip following his ( or even before ) his twitter message

Mech DNF at this level , poor show chaps

Stephen

And whoever it was who told Spies (Quite unecessarily too) not to go to Laguna if he didn't give 100% would have got a withering glare, at least. :facepalm:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Poor old Spies , have yamaha been raiding the skip following his ( or even before ) his twitter message

Mech DNF at this level , poor show chaps

Stephen

It was the same engine he crashed in qual on. Same thing happened to Lorenzo in Germany either last year or year before.

[tail_end_charlie]

Side note: James Ellison pulled out a flyer in this race.

James ELLISON - GBR - Paul Bird Motorsport - ART - 1'40.831 - 24 of 27 - +1.743

Lap time within 1.75s of the best lap time of the day, which happened to be a new circut record by Dani.

Though the more I look at it, the more it looks like a complete fluke, or possibly a timing mistake since that is the only lap he had in the 1'40 s. In fact, its the only lap he had under 1'42.6 so it must be some kind of a mistake.

Which means that Aleix Espargaro had the fastest CRT laptime.
Aleix ESPARGARO - SPA - Power Electronics Aspar - ART - 1'41.133 - 6 of 28 - +2.045

Thats more in line with what they have been doing.






Oh shit, I've posted stuff about CRT, I wonder if Crasher is going to yell at me again? :crazy:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Oh shit, I've posted stuff about CRT, I wonder if Crasher is going to yell at me again? :crazy:

lol. No. Because I did my time in a large automotive workshop...foul language was the norm. I've always quite liked it anyway. So simply because I use nasty words, don't think I'm abusing people. Anyone that's met me in real life will tell you that's how I am anyway. Computers have a way of hiding how things are actually said and meant to mean.

Doesn't mean you shouldn't stick your CRT bikes up your arse.

[rachprice]

Whoop whoop Brno soon

I don't know h

[rachprice]

Whoop whoop Brno soon

I don't know how to post photos from my phone do wont get them till November when I'm back!

[Shaun]

lol. No. Because I did my time in a large automotive workshop...foul language was the norm. I've always quite liked it anyway. So simply because I use nasty words, don't think I'm abusing people. Anyone that's met me in real life will tell you that's how I am anyway. Computers have a way of hiding how things are actually said and meant to mean.

Doesn't mean you shouldn't stick your CRT bikes up your arse.



fuk off ya piece of shit cock sucking arse wipe then

[Crasherfromwayback]

fuk off ya piece of shit cock sucking arse wipe then

Will do cheers! Not.

[Brian d marge]

It was the same engine he crashed in qual on. Same thing happened to Lorenzo in Germany either last year or year before.


Snip

We had a problem at Assen (http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/racing/bridgestones-tire-failure-assen-dutch-tt-motogp/) with the tire, which wasn’t our fault, and also at Silverstone. But Qatar, here and Laguna, we’ve had three mechanical problems with the bike. I wouldn’t say its Yamaha’s fault at all, it’s been bad luck too. Why it’s happening to me, I don’t know. It was a big frustration about a month ago, but now we go to Brno, and I wonder what’s going to happen next.”

That tyre ok but the swing arm , that should have been marked and junked ( if it had been involved in a crash) , engine ,,,should have been used for qualifying not a race ....are they short of engines ?

oh and problems at 2 circuits with tyres ??? One does wonder why ???? oh and the suspension failure was a tolerance problem ( yeah right, you telling me that some tit designed it 1;1 FOS , idiot , or there was a stress raiser , , or it didnt fit. big hammer????)

Stephen

[Crasherfromwayback]

Snip

engine ,,,should have been used for qualifying not a race ....are they short of engines ?



Agreed. And I think so. Poor old Lorenzo may well run out of 'em too after he lost one when Bautista took him out.

Stink rule that one. I'd hate to see Lorenzo have to start races from pit lane. That'd be way unfair.

[Mental Trousers]

Agreed. And I think so. Poor old Lorenzo may well run out of 'em too after he lost one when Bautista took him out.

Stink rule that one. I'd hate to see Lorenzo have to start races from pit lane. That'd be way unfair.

I reckon if Lorenzo loses the championship because he had to start from pit lane that rule will be reviewed. It certainly should be. Changed to crash damage when caused by another rider. So if you tip over and stick it in the sand pit and lose an engine that's your tough luck, but if you go down as part of someone else's accident and lose an engine you get a new one.

[roogazza]

lol. No. Because I did my time in a large automotive workshop.
Matter if interest:
I thought you were a bike mechanic ? Where did you serve your time ? I did mine at Shelly's but only lasted 7 yrs in the trade. Joined the biggest gang in NZ in 1973. :Police:
Loved the education I got leaving school though.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I reckon if Lorenzo loses the championship because he had to start from pit lane that rule will be reviewed. It certainly should be. Changed to crash damage when caused by another rider. So if you tip over and stick it in the sand pit and lose an engine that's your tough luck, but if you go down as part of someone else's accident and lose an engine you get a new one.

Yeah that'd be a much better idea, although the whole limiting of the number of engines sucks full stop. It's supposed to cut costs, but think you'll find it doesn't.


Matter if interest:
I thought you were a bike mechanic ? Where did you serve your time ? I did mine at Shelly's but only lasted 7 yrs in the trade. Joined the biggest gang in NZ in 1973. :Police:
Loved the education I got leaving school though.

Nope. A grease Monkey on cars and light diesels. Did my time for Avis Rental Cars, when they had their own workshops on College St. Was actually a really fun time. 8 mechanics running cars out to the airport etc...races? Never.

Saw a lot of funny things in my time there that's for sure.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Rossi loves Harleys after all!

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/Aug/120821rossixr750.htm

[DidJit]

Masao Furusawa interviewed (http://motomatters.com/interview/2012/08/21/masao_furusawa_interview_on_visiting_ita.html?utm_ source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MotoGPMatters+%28MotoMatters% 29) on that trip to Italy...

[DidJit]

Rossi loves Harleys after all!...

Must be doing some homework on how to ride the Duc like those other dirt/flat trackers Stoner and Hayden. ;)

[Mental Trousers]

I reckon if Lorenzo loses the championship because he had to start from pit lane that rule will be reviewed. It certainly should be. Changed to crash damage when caused by another rider. So if you tip over and stick it in the sand pit and lose an engine that's your tough luck, but if you go down as part of someone else's accident and lose an engine you get a new one.

Yeah that'd be a much better idea, although the whole limiting of the number of engines sucks full stop. It's supposed to cut costs, but think you'll find it doesn't.


I don't like rules that limit the number of engines/tyres or anything else, but without them things can get very silly. An engine for practices, and engine for qualifying and one for the race etc is not sustainable and doesn't attract the small guys that fill up the grid.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I don't like rules that limit the number of engines/tyres or anything else, but without them things can get very silly. An engine for practices, and engine for qualifying and one for the race etc is not sustainable and doesn't attract the small guys that fill up the grid.

Yeah but the work that goes into making the engines last as long as they do probably costs more in the long run.

You seen how many engines Biaggi's Aprilia team goes through in a season?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Must be doing some homework on how to ride the Duc like those other dirt/flat trackers Stoner and Hayden. ;)

You reckon he'll try and beat Stoners 40 odd national flattrack titles mate?







Yes it's a wind up.

[DidJit]

On his own ranch maybe... ;)

[Crasherfromwayback]

On his own ranch maybe... ;)

When I win Big Wed tonight...I'm gonna buy me a big fuck off farm and build a flattrack. I'll then buy 20 RMZ 450's and run a class for aspiring road racers.

Now to get a ticket...

[tail_end_charlie]

I don't like rules that limit the number of engines/tyres or anything else, but without them things can get very silly. An engine for practices, and engine for qualifying and one for the race etc is not sustainable and doesn't attract the small guys that fill up the grid.


Yeah but the work that goes into making the engines last as long as they do probably costs more in the long run.

The way I see it, arguing that the limited number of engines per rider (is it per rider or per team?) per season would help reduce costs is BS. The money saved by the overall number of engines produced would dissappear very quickly when you start looking into all the R&D the teams would have to put in to make the engines last as long as they do. I feel a much more legitimate argument would be that the R&D that goes into making the engine last longer would result in a direct trickle down to the technology used in the consumer market. (Granted, a few years down the line from present prototype.) That gives some legitimacy for the argument that prototype racing is a useful tool for technological advancement in the consumer sector (for those who need that argument because they don't see the benifit of watching aliens ride around a track in spectacular fashion).


You seen how many engines Biaggi's Aprilia team goes through in a season?

Didn't they go through like 20 some engines for his 2010 championship season?

[pritch]

Must be doing some homework on how to ride the Duc like those other dirt/flat trackers Stoner and Hayden. ;)

That pic looks like one of the two that Alex Briggs posted on Twitter. The bike looks really nice in the other photo. My copyright breaching skills aren't up to much as I couldn't save the pic from Twitter to my desktop.

[Crasherfromwayback]

The way I see it, arguing that the limited number of engines per rider (is it per rider or per team?) per season would help reduce costs is BS. The money saved by the overall number of engines produced would dissappear very quickly when you start looking into all the R&D the teams would have to put in to make the engines last as long as they do. I feel a much more legitimate argument would be that the R&D that goes into making the engine last longer would result in a direct trickle down to the technology used in the consumer market. (Granted, a few years down the line from present prototype.) That gives some legitimacy for the argument that prototype racing is a useful tool for technological advancement in the consumer sector (for those who need that argument because they don't see the benifit of watching aliens ride around a track in spectacular fashion).



Didn't they go through like 20 some engines for his 2010 championship season?

Totally agree mate.


That pic looks like one of the two that Alex Briggs posted on Twitter. The bike looks really nice in the other photo. My copyright breaching skills aren't up to much as I couldn't save the pic from Twitter to my desktop.

Yummy...we must find pictures!

[Drew]

I'll fuckin say it since I seem to have missed anyone else doing it. GO PEDRO!!!

That lil midget is the man!

[DidJit]

That pic looks like one of the two that Alex Briggs posted on Twitter. The bike looks really nice in the other photo. ...

Alex Briggs’ Twitter photos of the XR750 here (http://lockerz.com/s/236670875) and here (http://lockerz.com/s/236667331).


When I win Big Wed tonight...I'm gonna buy me a big fuck off farm and build a flattrack. I'll then buy 20 RMZ 450's and run a class for aspiring road racers. ...

Put me down for a few (hundred) lessons. :niceone:

[Crasherfromwayback]

I'll fuckin say it since I seem to have missed anyone else doing it. GO PEDRO!!!

That lil midget is the man!

He's having the season he's always been threatening I reckon. Good to see. No fun in having one guy fuck off out the front points wise eh!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Put me down for a few (hundred) lessons. :niceone:

Turn left.

[tail_end_charlie]

Turn left.

So then its just like Nascar..........right?

[Crasherfromwayback]

So then its just like Nascar..........right?

I reckon Nascar would be ok if they were on the lockstops every lap!

[tigertim20]

I reckon if Lorenzo loses the championship because he had to start from pit lane that rule will be reviewed. It certainly should be. Changed to crash damage when caused by another rider. So if you tip over and stick it in the sand pit and lose an engine that's your tough luck, but if you go down as part of someone else's accident and lose an engine you get a new one.

yeah I see the pros and cons of the rule. the part you mention about losing an engine because of someone else, vs your own mistake, well seems you've been punished for pushing it to the edge?

Id like to see them do something like 6 engines, but you can add another engine at the cost of say, 5 championship points. that would force the teams to think really carefully.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Id like to see them do something like 6 engines, but you can add another engine at the cost of say, 5 championship points. that would force the teams to think really carefully.

Not a bad take on it! Maybe more points though.

[tigertim20]

Not a bad take on it! Maybe more points though.

yeah the number of points would need to be worked out. Imagine if jorge had to give up 5 points for a new engine right now, would tighten that gap ever so much more.

[Crasherfromwayback]

yeah the number of points would need to be worked out. Imagine if jorge had to give up 5 points for a new engine right now, would tighten that gap ever so much more.

Wouldn't mind betting he would! They probably knock the output back as the km's get added on to them. So wouldn't mind betting he'd like to be able to run full power to see the midget off!

Think he'll have the class/determination/skill over Pedro to win it this year regardless. Weird as it may sound...I'd kinda like to see Pedro win it. It may give him the belief that perhaps he's been missing to win titles? And I'm a huge Lorenzo fan.

Hope Casey doesn't get jealous.

[BMWST?]

I reckon if Lorenzo loses the championship because he had to start from pit lane that rule will be reviewed. It certainly should be. Changed to crash damage when caused by another rider. So if you tip over and stick it in the sand pit and lose an engine that's your tough luck, but if you go down as part of someone else's accident and lose an engine you get a new one.

so will they also review the finishing order if you go down in someone elses accident?

[BMWST?]

Wouldn't mind betting he would! They probably knock the output back as the km's get added on to them. So wouldn't mind betting he'd like to be able to run full power to see the midget off!

Think he'll have the class/determination/skill over Pedro to win it this year regardless. Weird as it may sound...I'd kinda like to see Pedro win it. It may give him the belief that perhaps he's been missing to win titles? And I'm a huge Lorenzo fan.

Hope Casey doesn't get jealous.

i think its a leap to far for Casey now...anything can happen of course.Woulkd like to see Danny win fair and square.He has alwyas had the outright pace at times,if only he can string a few more together,if casey can get in between Jorge and Dani we could have a nail biter!

[tigertim20]

Wouldn't mind betting he would! They probably knock the output back as the km's get added on to them. So wouldn't mind betting he'd like to be able to run full power to see the midget off!

Think he'll have the class/determination/skill over Pedro to win it this year regardless. Weird as it may sound...I'd kinda like to see Pedro win it. It may give him the belief that perhaps he's been missing to win titles? And I'm a huge Lorenzo fan.

Hope Casey doesn't get jealous.
haha yeah I actually wouldnt be too upset either to be honest, he's the eternal almost guy, never quite made it there, would be great to see it happen. He seems to me to have been a quiet achiever this season. Like he's still getting better in leaps and bounds, its just that lorenzo and stoner's leaps have overshadowed his progress because their leaps have been just that tiny bit bigger each year.

i think its a leap to far for Casey now...anything can happen of course.Woulkd like to see Danny win fair and square.He has alwyas had the outright pace at times,if only he can string a few more together,if casey can get in between Jorge and Dani we could have a nail biter!

If lorenzo takes a new engine and starts from pit lane, who knows, of the result of that was lorenzo finished say 5th or 6th, with stoner, pedro 1 and 2, how does that affect the points? stil what, 6 or 8 races left? so 200 odd points worth of 1st place finishes up for grabs.

[Mental Trousers]

so will they also review the finishing order if you go down in someone elses accident?

Why would they?? How would they?? There's no way you can say Lorenzo was 3rd when Bautista took him out so he would've finished 3rd. That's lunacy.

[Crasherfromwayback]

i think its a leap to far for Casey now...anything can happen of course.Woulkd like to see Danny win fair and square.He has alwyas had the outright pace at times,if only he can string a few more together,if casey can get in between Jorge and Dani we could have a nail biter!

I think it was pretty much over for Stoner when he threw it away in Germany. The ankle seals the deal. Pity...because it looked like he was starting to get the Honda sorted, as has Pedro.

But Pedro and Lorenzo are the two class acts this season...so fair enough it's coming down to which is classiest!

[BMWST?]

haha yeah I actually wouldnt be too upset either to be honest, he's the eternal almost guy, never quite made it there, would be great to see it happen. He seems to me to have been a quiet achiever this season. Like he's still getting better in leaps and bounds, its just that lorenzo and stoner's leaps have overshadowed his progress because their leaps have been just that tiny bit bigger each year.


If lorenzo takes a new engine and starts from pit lane, who knows, of the result of that was lorenzo finished say 5th or 6th, with stoner, pedro 1 and 2, how does that affect the points? stil what, 6 or 8 races left? so 200 odd points worth of 1st place finishes up for grabs.

It is mathematically possible still but i reckon its too far....even Dani is up against it

[Crasherfromwayback]

Lorenzo is the ONE guy that I reckon could threaten Rossi's record of nine titles. He's young enough, good enough, and hates Rossi enough.

[Mental Trousers]

Lorenzo is the ONE guy that I reckon could threaten Rossi's record of nine titles. He's young enough, good enough, and hates Rossi enough.

If he wins every championship (including this one) until he equals 9 that'll put him at 32 years old ...... hmm

[Crasherfromwayback]

If he wins every championship (including this one) until he equals 9 that'll put him at 32 years old ...... hmm

I wouldn't bet against it.

[Crasherfromwayback]

They're using 'that' term!

http://www.ducatinewstoday.com/2012/08/ducati-wont-win-again-until-2014/

[White trash]

They're using 'that' term!

http://www.ducatinewstoday.com/2012/08/ducati-wont-win-again-until-2014/

Cunts. Why don't they just call him the best modern GP rider we've seen....yet. Because that's what he is.

[Matt Bleck]

Cunts. Why don't they just call him the best modern GP rider we've seen....yet. Because that's what he is.

So you could say that about RC too though aye? :sunny:

[roogazza]

If he wins every championship (including this one) until he equals 9 that'll put him at 32 years old ...... hmm

But Rossi might have 10 by then ?
I think a lot of people are in for a surprise.:wari:

[Oscar]

Cunts. Why don't they just call him the best modern GP rider we've seen....yet. Because that's what he is.

It's a meaningless phrase.
Rossi never raced Doohan, or Lawson or Hailwood or Ago...add your own names...
He's certainly dominated the era, and won in all the classes it was possible for him to win, but "that phrase"?
Meaningless.

[White trash]

What? So "the greatest of all time" is more likely correct? Get real.

Edit: Just read your post properly. Yeah.

[DidJit]

It's official (http://motomatters.com/news/2012/08/22/ducati_confirms_two_year_deal_with_andre.html).



So much for my wild speculation... <_<

[Tony.OK]

It's official (http://motomatters.com/news/2012/08/22/ducati_confirms_two_year_deal_with_andre.html).



So much for my wild speculation... <_<

I find that decision hard to fathom? Dovi is finally getting good consistent results and on a great bike but next year will prob be an also ran if he can't monster the Duc.
Silly season it sure is!!

[pritch]

It's official (http://motomatters.com/news/2012/08/22/ducati_confirms_two_year_deal_with_andre.html).


It's been described as "Win Win" for Dovizioso, but it's not that likely that he'll be winning too much next year in reality.

The interview with Furusawa though provides an indication that perhaps Ducati have finally got the message..

[DidJit]

Dovi is the best of the satellites (and a few factory bikes too) with his 5 podiums thus far. Rossi scuttled Dovi's hard work at earning a factory ride at Yamaha which left him with two choices — stay at Tech 3 and hope to keep getting a few podiums; or take on a Ducati factory ride with guarantees in his contract from Audi that they aid and speed up development.

If you read the interview (http://motomatters.com/interview/2012/08/21/masao_furusawa_interview_on_visiting_ita.html) with Masao Furusawa, you will have noted how very much Ducati want a competitive bike and how much they've changed their tune/attitude/approach (as evidenced by Filippo Preziosi and Ducati actively seeking out Furusawa's help and the admissions Preziosi made to the M1 guru). So, from Dovi's perspective, if the bike fails to get better he can just point at Rossi and say, “Well, the 9-time champ over there couldn't do it.” If, however, the bike does get better with Preziosi's new-found knowledge in triangle theory combined with Audi's speedier prototyping and Dovi's methodical approach, then Dovi gets a lot of kudos.

I think, in my armchair capacity, that Dovi has stepped in to the team at just the right time.

Edit: It would be cool if Cristian Gabbarini and the rest of Stoner's Italian crew sign on to help him get to grips with the thing.

[Maido]

http://twitter.com/Official_CS27/status/238018823536664576/photo/1
http://twitter.com/Official_CS27/status/238018701620813824/photo/1

Casey's ankle. Would have been pretty sore to ride with.

[DidJit]

Pretty sore full stop!

[steveyb]

IMHO I think Cal is in a perfectly safe place where he is, at Tech 3.
Possible podiums next season and move on after that.
I think he shouldn't be so eager to move onto the factory bike.

[Crasherfromwayback]

http://twitter.com/Official_CS27/status/238018823536664576/photo/1
http://twitter.com/Official_CS27/status/238018701620813824/photo/1

Casey's ankle. Would have been pretty sore to ride with.

I can vouch for that. I see he's got his baby bottle ready in the second pic.

Think you can also safely add 'hard bastard' to his list of achievements.

[Maido]

I can vouch for that. I see he's got his baby bottle ready in the second pic.

Think you can also safely add 'hard bastard' to his list of achievements.

I knocked the ankle bit off my ankle (the sticky out bit), as well as breaking 3 other bones in my leg and foot in a crash off the end of the straight at Ruapuna (data logger said 210kph) a couple years back, it lokoed very similar to what stoner's looks like, I can tell you that holy shit it hurt. You definately can't walk or weight bear it, so to do what he did is pretty ballsey.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I knocked the ankle bit off my ankle (the sticky out bit), as well as breaking 3 other bones in my leg and foot in a crash off the end of the straight at Ruapuna (data logger said 210kph) a couple years back, it lokoed very similar to what stoner's looks like, I can tell you that holy shit it hurt. You definately can't walk or weight bear it, so to do what he did is pretty ballsey.

They're no fun that's for sure. Mine is still nearly as fat as Stoners...7 years later.268652

[Drew]

Maido and crasher, your ankles were considerably worse than mr stoners, there's no way he'd have ridden with that kind of injury.

Still double hard though.

[The Chow]

They're no fun that's for sure. Mine is still nearly as fat as Stoners...7 years later.268652

Comparing war wounds thats a good thread , yeah smashed my ankle and fractured my spine in a Crash at Hawkesbury in 1974. Those ankle injuries are bloody painful, my foot had got caught under between the footrest and clutch cover on my S2-a Kawasaki and the ankle bone was crushed . Had to have a major operation and lost some permanent movement. BUT! i wasn't riding a 200HP Moto GP bike , now thats takes big balls.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Comparing war wounds thats a good thread , yeah smashed my ankle and fractured my spine in a Crash at Hawkesbury in 1974. Those ankle injuries are bloody painful, my foot had got caught under between the footrest and clutch cover on my S2-a Kawasaki and the ankle bone was crushed . Had to have a major operation and lost some permanent movement. BUT! i wasn't riding a 200HP Moto GP bike , now thats takes big balls.

lol. It's what you do when you get too old to get anymore!

Ouch. Ankles, wrists and collar bones eh!

[Drew]

lol. It's what you do when you get too old to get anymore!

Ouch. Ankles, wrists and collar bones eh!

I got the fucked ankles, it's awesome on building sites where extension leads are run accross the floor all the time. Every six to twelve months I need a week off for a good sprain that's often purple from toe to half way up the shin.

Wrists and collar bones are fine so far, but I've never done motoX

[BMWST?]

dovi seems to be get a good setuo on a good bike a lot of the time.i dont think he has what it takes to ride at the absolute edge. this is the abilty the aliens possess. i trult think dovi has the same raw talent of the aliens but not the x factor that the others have.

[tigertim20]

Lorenzo is the ONE guy that I reckon could threaten Rossi's record of nine titles. He's young enough, good enough, and hates Rossi enough.
yeah, maybe we can watch a legend of the next generation in the making eh?

But Rossi might have 10 by then ?
I think a lot of people are in for a surprise.:wari:

hmmm fuck yeah, I want this season to hurry up and be the fuck over for next season already!!!!

[bogan]

hmmm fuck yeah, I want this season to hurry up and be the fuck over for next season already!!!!

No stoner next year though. I want to see a good back and forth battle between him and lorenzo before the season is out.

[BMWST?]

No stoner next year though. I want to see a good back and forth battle between him and lorenzo before the season is out.

once his ankle is a bit better i reckon we might see just that,i reckon the championship is gone....so he has nothing to lose.

[Crasherfromwayback]

yeah, maybe we can watch a legend of the next generation in the making eh?


hmmm fuck yeah, I want this season to hurry up and be the fuck over for next season already!!!!

He's already one in my eyes mate. Anyone that can beat Rossi to a world championship is. Hayden, Stoner and he.

Be careful what you wish for.

[DidJit]

We won't be seeing Casey for a few races (http://motomatters.com/news/2012/08/23/casey_stoner_my_championship_is_finished.html)...

[Oscar]

We won't be seeing Casey for a few races (http://motomatters.com/news/2012/08/23/casey_stoner_my_championship_is_finished.html)...

Bummer.
So we're down to Pedrosa v. Lorenzo, eh?
It'll be close...

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah bad buzz. Nasty injury for sure.

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/Aug/120823rydernotes.htm

[Drew]

Yeah bad buzz. Nasty injury for sure.could be worse, he could ride a Hond...

Nevermind.