MotoGP 2012

[Mental Trousers]

I know it don't make for good racing, but watching a guy that good, and that consistent is a privilege. It's not just the blistering speed, it's the precision and scary concentration that he brings to the whole race.

I agree 100%. Some may call it boring, but to me, it's a privilege to see for sure.

Hell yeah

[Crasherfromwayback]

Hell yeah

Pretty easy to see why Yamaha are so keen to keep him.

[carbonhed]

Pretty easy to see why Yamaha are so keen to keep him.

This is cruel but who cares right?

Which titanic KB intellect came up with this gem?

"Jorge is screwed. I was wondering how long it would take Spies to do the same thing to Lorenzo he did to Mladin.

Out-qualify, out-race, finish better. Repeatedly. "

Answers on a postcard please.

[Crasherfromwayback]

This is cruel but who cares right?

Which titanic KB intellect came up with this gem?

"Jorge is screwed. I was wondering how long it would take Spies to do the same thing to Lorenzo he did to Mladin.

Out-qualify, out-race, finish better. Repeatedly. "

Answers on a postcard please.

Hope like fuck it wasn't me! But I think it was Jim.

[carbonhed]

Hope like fuck it wasn't me! But I think it was Jim.

:laugh:

A hole in one to Master Crasher!

[Badjelly]

I know Jorge is a great motorbike racer and all, but what really impresses me is this (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-hB0Rqf106bE/UAMSzTOqITI/AAAAAAAADIo/9leoJMS7wbQ/s1600/loenzojump376551_10151056552235769_259227760_n.jpg ).

Who said white men...oh never mind.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I know Jorge is a great motorbike racer and all, but what really impresses me is this (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-hB0Rqf106bE/UAMSzTOqITI/AAAAAAAADIo/9leoJMS7wbQ/s1600/loenzojump376551_10151056552235769_259227760_n.jpg ).

Who said white men...oh never mind.

What's with the trophy chicks? Bloody wops normally have hotties.

[merv]

Yeah great balance on the handrail. As for the chicks well they've gone for austerity to keep the Krauts happy.

As for your boy crasher, has he retired already? I said a while back he should have retired as soon as he earned that No 1 plate and went out on top. Is he going to pull the points back on george?

[Crasherfromwayback]

As for your boy crasher, has he retired already? I said a while back he should have retired as soon as he earned that No 1 plate and went out on top. Is he going to pull the points back on george?

Doesn't look like a bloke that's given up to me Merv. He just ain't good enough right now to beat Lorenzo. Big points buffer now. His silly mistake in Germany may well haunt him for the rest of the year. I would think he will do the bizz at Laguna Seca though.

[Oscar]

Doesn't look like a bloke that's given up to me Merv. He just ain't good enough right now to beat Lorenzo. Big points buffer now. His silly mistake in Germany may well haunt him for the rest of the year. I would think he will do the bizz at Laguna Seca though.

I reckon Casey will either win or bin at Laguna (pity the TAB don't do a multi bet on that).

[Crasherfromwayback]

I reckon Casey will either win or bin at Laguna (pity the TAB don't do a multi bet on that).

He certainly seems to go well there. Mind you...Pedro does too. But Lorenzo is going well everywhere.

[merv]

Certainly seems that Yamaha have pulled finger too and given him a competitive bike. When did we last see the Yamaha match the Honda for top speed (in this case beat it according to the practice figures), and still retain the good handling they have had for a while?

[k14]

That's over 30 thousand down in attendance ! Watching from my lounge chair it didn't seem to be going off in normal Mugello fashion ? Best I've witnessed there was 96 thousand in 05, I'll be back next year.
Good to see Rossi climb to 5th as predicted by JB in spite of QP position.
Horhay, 'the black Mamba' was in serious mood.

Would you go back K14 ? Trains work out ?
Yeah there was so much room on the embankments you could move around whenever you liked. Also the crowd didn't really even go crazy when Iannone won the moto2 race. Just polite clapping and a few cheers. Quite a bit more low key than I was expecting. I'd go back but only if they do something to make the races more interesting cause currently it isn't, it's just 20 guys riding around behind one another for 45 mins. Yeah trains and transport worked sweet. The best part was going down onto the start/finish line to watch the prize giving. All the italians had their bikes doing burnouts on the limiter along with the fireworks.

Why do you even bother watching then?
I ask myself that same question sometimes (specially after watching the other top race series, world superbikes and formula 1 in particular this year) but MotoGP is the pinnacle and I still love it, even though it is usually boring to watch, you never know when it might show up a good one. Leguna is next, that usually produces a closer race. Also yesterday I was sitting on the outside of turn 1 so reading a book was out of the question :lol:

[Crasherfromwayback]

I ask myself that same question sometimes (specially after watching the other top race series, world superbikes and formula 1 in particular this year) but MotoGP is the pinnacle and I still love it, even though it is usually boring to watch, you never know when it might show up a good one. Leguna is next, that usually produces a closer race. Also yesterday I was sitting on the outside of turn 1 so reading a book was out of the question :lol:

Yeah saw in a post (I think) you were there. Very jealous. Makes it harder to see how you found it boring though! The noise of the fuckers is enough to give me a chubby.

[Mental Trousers]

Doesn't look like a bloke that's given up to me Merv. He just ain't good enough right now to beat Lorenzo. Big points buffer now. His silly mistake in Germany may well haunt him for the rest of the year. I would think he will do the bizz at Laguna Seca though.

Stoner and Pedro will have new bikes by then. They've got 2 totally redesigned bikes sitting under some covers waiting for Monday testing. Honda got the shits with the new Bridgestones and moved their 2013 chassis and engines forward to try and sort out the chatter problems they've been having.

Watch out for Stoner at Laguna I'd say.

[k14]

Yeah saw in a post (I think) you were there. Very jealous. Makes it harder to see how you found it boring though! The noise of the fuckers is enough to give me a chubby.
Yeah I guess after Moto3 and Moto2 being awesome races to watch it is always just a let down to see someone win by 5s plus. I totally agree that Lorenzo is a joy to watch, he is so perfect it is nearing on being non-human. But as a fan you have to always keep in the back of your mind that MotoGP is primarily entertainment. If in Italy you have thousands of people leaving the track before the MotoGP race even starts because they already know the result, surely that doesn't bode well for the future!

[Crasherfromwayback]

. If in Italy you have thousands of people leaving the track before the MotoGP race even starts because they already know the result, surely that doesn't bode well for the future!

Bet they were all wearing #46 shirts.

[Cleve]

Yeah I guess after Moto3 and Moto2 being awesome races to watch it is always just a let down to see someone win by 5s plus. I totally agree that Lorenzo is a joy to watch, he is so perfect it is nearing on being non-human. But as a fan you have to always keep in the back of your mind that MotoGP is primarily entertainment. If in Italy you have thousands of people leaving the track before the MotoGP race even starts because they already know the result, surely that doesn't bode well for the future!

Hey Kirk. Good to hear you are in Mugello. I went last year. Was a big crowd - I booked as soon as I heard Valentino Rossi on a Ducati in Mugello, as did many others I guess... well we all know how that story is panning out - anyway awesome event , beautiful part of the world, mad crowd (I cannot believe the passion with which they hate Lorenzo and Pedrosa, but what surprised me was how much they hate Stoner as well.) Also Dovi isn't that popular with most of the crowd. It was all Rossi (and last year) Simoncelli...

[Brian d marge]

The amount of frames Honda have thrown at this race ,,,,watch this in the future .......( buy shares in any frame making firm )

Stephen

[Mental Trousers]

Dovi is too quiet to be Italian. He's not flamboyant, he drives a station wagon and the most stylish thing he wears is his leathers and sunnies. Not surprising that the Italians gravitate to the other Italian riders.

[Brian d marge]

Dovi is too quiet to be Italian. He's not flamboyant, he drives a station wagon and the most stylish thing he wears is his leathers and sunnies. Not surprising that the Italians gravitate to the other Italian riders.
Drives a station wagon .....run away run away

Stephen

[k14]

Hey Kirk. Good to hear you are in Mugello. I went last year. Was a big crowd - I booked as soon as I heard Valentino Rossi on a Ducati in Mugello, as did many others I guess... well we all know how that story is panning out - anyway awesome event , beautiful part of the world, mad crowd (I cannot believe the passion with which they hate Lorenzo and Pedrosa, but what surprised me was how much they hate Stoner as well.) Also Dovi isn't that popular with most of the crowd. It was all Rossi (and last year) Simoncelli...
Yeah everyone was wearing a 46 shirt, however they were all cheering for Dovi. Specially when he jumped onto the podium. I guess that with the current relatively bare patch of fast italian riders (in pretty much all classes actually) they will take what they get. But any Italian I talked to always said Rossi was their favourite.

[cmoore]

Fantastic race by Lorenzo, as for the boring comments i would remind people this is a championship, with different bike types that suit different tracks...but it is all about the championship.....for example ..stoner crashing when coming second was only interesting because of the points situation...same yesterday....it's a long season so who knows what will happen...Honda new bike...Ducati new bike / frame....Yamaha engine # issues...Dovi fighting for factory ride....it is exciting not because every race is so close anyone could win...it is exciting because it is so damn hard to be consistent over the season....IMO......:).....almost no one remembers a close race but we know who won the championship last year....

[Oscar]

Not wrong there. That guys mouth can get him in a lot of trouble. I totally went off him when he recently said that he wants to be in another team as there's nothing for him at Tech 3. Not just arrogant (which I always got over) but very ungrateful as well. It's true that the factory riders have the best shot at winning the championship but that's just downright ungrateful.

Crutchlow is leaving T3 because his seat has been promised to Bradley Smith.

[roogazza]

Bet they were all wearing #46 shirts.
Hey I've got a few of them !

I'll wear my million dollar polo shirt next time I come into the shop.
Wife doesn't like it, says I look like 'big bird' in it. :crazy:

Very surprised at the reduction in crowd numbers,but hey if Rossi get's the Duc how he wants it or rides something else that wins I'm sure they'll flock back ?
I don't know,150euro doesn't seem that much for the 3 days.
Though it is expensive when compared to any other GP.

[Mental Trousers]

Crutchlow is leaving T3 because his seat has been promised to Bradley Smith.

Not his seat, a seat. Tech 3 hadn't said who was staying or going.

For the first few races it looked like he was going to be the one Tech 3 would prefer to retain, but Dovi has 4 podiums out of 5 races now and he looks like he's still building steam.

Thing is that Dovi wants a factory ride as well. The word is that Yamaha will resign Spies (probably because the Spanish and American markets are so important to them so they've got it covered with Lorenzo and Spies) so Herve might have to do some negotiating with Yamaha to get full factory bikes and support, the same sort of arrangement Gresini have with Honda for Bautista's bike (originally setup for Simoncelli).

I really do think Dovi is the best chance Tech 3 have had for a top 3 season for a while, although probably not this season unless Stoner has another non-finish.

[DidJit]

Gotta hand it to the Spanish media — they certainly know how to drive the rumour mill (http://www.motocuatro.com/index.php/motogp/4708-marlboro-quiere-patrocinar-a-yamaha-a-cambio-de-una-m1-oficial-para-rossi)...
(Google Translate (http://translate.google.com) will give you the general gist.)

Or I could just post the gist here: Apparently, Marlboro want a factory Yamaha M1 for Rossi in exchange for sponsorship.

[Mental Trousers]

The Spanish rumour mill has gotten a couple of things correct lately. But mostly they get it all wrong.

[Cleve]

The Spanish rumour mill has gotten a couple of things correct lately. But mostly they get it all wrong.

there was also the Coco Cola sponsored Yamaha for Rossi as well... (Hmmm memories of Schwantz and Pepsi Suzuki...)

[Oscar]

Gotta hand it to the Spanish media — they certainly know how to drive the rumour mill (http://www.motocuatro.com/index.php/motogp/4708-marlboro-quiere-patrocinar-a-yamaha-a-cambio-de-una-m1-oficial-para-rossi)...
(Google Translate (http://translate.google.com) will give you the general gist.)

Or I could just post the gist here: Apparently, Marlboro want a factory Yamaha M1 for Rossi in exchange for sponsorship.

Yeah there's a rumour in the paddock about Rossi and Lorenzo on Marlboro sponsored Yamaha's...

[denill]

Yeah there's a rumour in the paddock about Rossi and Lorenzo on Marlboro sponsored Yamaha's...

With Hayden having a dash for a podium it was a reminder that we NEED Ducati. For the series to have significance - there needs to be more than just two manufacturers.................

CRT doesn't look like doing it either.

[merv]

Is the 'baccy sponsorship still accepted at all the rounds?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Is the 'baccy sponsorship still accepted at all the rounds?

Hardly any (if any). That's why they're more often than not just red bikes with white stripes.

[cmoore]

bmw headed to motogp?? http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-racing-news-wsb/bmw-restructuring-wsb-factory-effort/21027.html

[Oscar]

bmw headed to motogp?? http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-racing-news-wsb/bmw-restructuring-wsb-factory-effort/21027.html

The word in the paddock is that they're looking at building customer bikes like Honda.

[tigertim20]

Another yawn fest. Moto3 and Moto2 were great. Even the Italian fans knew before that MotoGP was going to be boring as about 10-20% left the track after Moto2. Another 20% left during the MotoGP race. Attendance was only 64000. Shows how much pull an in form Rossi would have.
I dont think that race was boring at all - I thought it was fantastic!

Yeah great balance on the handrail. As for the chicks well they've gone for austerity to keep the Krauts happy.

As for your boy crasher, has he retired already? I said a while back he should have retired as soon as he earned that No 1 plate and went out on top. Is he going to pull the points back on george?

I said earlier on that I reckon stoner has lost the heart, and lost the nerve - the DESIRE is still there, but I can see him just slowly, slowly getting left behind throughout the rest of the season - I expect he will find something for the Aussie GP since its at home and all - but Lorenzo will have a tight battle with pedro due to the lunched engine and 6 engine rule - and stoner will be close behind pedro at the end.

really though, as long as the races are as interesting as the last few have been, we are the winners either way!:banana:

[Crasherfromwayback]

I dont think that race was boring at all - I thought it was fantastic!


I said earlier on that I reckon stoner has lost the heart, and lost the nerve - the DESIRE is still there, :

Can't agree, and not just because I'm a fan. But you don't toss it away on the last lap without desire, heart and nerv mate. Same as the awesome pass he put on Pedro at the German round. Somewhere no one else has pulled off a pass. Bit like Laguna last year. Same goes for Mugello. Trying hard enough to get a severe head shake that forced the pistons back into the calipers causing him to run on...a-la Montegi last year. He's trying alright.

[tigertim20]

Can't agree, and not just because I'm a fan. But you don't toss it away on the last lap without desire, heart and nerv mate. Same as the awesome pass he put on Pedro at the German round. Somewhere no one else has pulled off a pass. Bit like Laguna last year. Same goes for Mugello. Trying hard enough to get a severe head shake that forced the pistons back into the calipers causing him to run on...a-la Montegi last year. He's trying alright.

Oh I agree he is trying - I dont think he has lost the desire, but I think its starting to slip away from him.
I guess we still have half the season left to see what happens, and if it continues in the same vein, it wont be boring!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Oh I agree he is trying - I dont think he has lost the desire, but I think its starting to slip away from him.
I guess we still have half the season left to see what happens, and if it continues in the same vein, it wont be boring!

I think he'll be hard to stop at Laguna.

[Mental Trousers]

The only thing that has been slipping away from Stoner is a bike that doesn't chatter it's arse off. The Honda's don't like the newest Bridgestones. Pedro went alright in that last race but they're very up and down.

At Laguna Seca him and Pedro should have totally new bikes. Will be interesting.

[Brian d marge]

The only thing that has been slipping away from Stoner is a bike that doesn't chatter it's arse off. The Honda's don't like the newest Bridgestones. Pedro went alright in that last race but they're very up and down.

At Laguna Seca him and Pedro should have totally new bikes. Will be interesting.

Talking about chatter , did you see it on Mark Marques bike , Damn thing nearly shook itself to bits

Stephen

[Reckless]

Talking about chatter , did you see it on Mark Marques bike , Damn thing nearly shook itself to bits

Stephen
Yeh I dont like the smug little prick much but his riding is gaining maturity and he's bloody fast!
I can see why Honda have him lined up! I had High hopes that Pedro (I quite like the shy little guy) would put all the predictions about Stoner or Lorenzo winning out the door but it simply looks like he's always going to be almost a Championship winner.
It will be really interesting to see how Marques handles the jump to MotoGP compared to say Bradl or even Spies.

Talking about Spies I don't think he likes the bike and it doesn't like him. From what I understand the Yamaha needs to be ridden very precisely with progressive throttle application, Upset it and it turns onto a slow bike?? Maybe Spies and it just will never get on!

Good championship this year so many guys taking a step up or trying to take it and pushing the factory bikes!

[yod]

The only thing that has been slipping away from Stoner is a bike that doesn't chatter it's arse off. The Honda's don't like the newest Bridgestones. Pedro went alright in that last race but they're very up and down.

At Laguna Seca him and Pedro should have totally new bikes. Will be interesting.

And tyres that work as well on the Honda as they seem to on the Yamaha!

[merv]

Back when men weren't boys http://superbikeplanet.com/2012/Jul/120718startfromback.htm

See the size of the grid!

The 3 cylinder Honda started easy lol, and all the chatter is in the engine not the bloody tyres. Freddy's bike was just like Jimmy Mair's MVX wasn't it haha a top machine.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Talking about chatter , did you see it on Mark Marques bike , Damn thing nearly shook itself to bits

Stephen

Think a lot of that is where they have the camera mounted. If you look at the tail pieces of a lot of the bikes, they're as flimsy as fuck and bounce all round the place.

[tigertim20]

The only thing that has been slipping away from Stoner is a bike that doesn't chatter it's arse off. The Honda's don't like the newest Bridgestones. Pedro went alright in that last race but they're very up and down.

At Laguna Seca him and Pedro should have totally new bikes. Will be interesting.

yes but these bikes all have issues - honda arent the only ones who have had problems with chatter this season.
Stoner has always been heralded by his supporters as 'the guy who rode around the issues to claim a title on the ducati'. Given that, he should be able to ride around a problem by adapting his riding style - unless it's slowly slipping away from him.

as I said, we have half a season left to see what the results will yield, and I may well be eating my words within a few races!

[Rcktfsh]

Back when men weren't boys http://superbikeplanet.com/2012/Jul/120718startfromback.htm

See the size of the grid!

The 3 cylinder Honda started easy lol, and all the chatter is in the engine not the bloody tyres. Freddy's bike was just like Jimmy Mair's MVX wasn't it haha a top machine.

The Suzuki's had been dogs all season, the xr45 being a huge disapointment. Mike Sinclair, Mamola's mechanic felt the engine had been shrunk to much leaving it with not enough crankcase volume to pump efficiently and built a hybrid engine using 2 year old XR35 barrells with spacers/long rods and the current XR45 bottom end for the british Gp which was a huge improvement.

[Mental Trousers]

yes but these bikes all have issues - honda arent the only ones who have had problems with chatter this season.
Stoner has always been heralded by his supporters as 'the guy who rode around the issues to claim a title on the ducati'. Given that, he should be able to ride around a problem by adapting his riding style - unless it's slowly slipping away from him.

as I said, we have half a season left to see what the results will yield, and I may well be eating my words within a few races!

Some things you simply can not ride around. The front end issues with the Ducati he could, the back end chatter with the Honda he can't. From the apex to full upright is where Stoner is strongest and that's exactly where the chatter occurs. The nature of the problem means there is literally nothing he or anyone else can change style-wise to fix it except open the throttle later - which isn't a fix.

[roogazza]

Back when men weren't boys http://superbikeplanet.com/2012/Jul/120718startfromback.htm
See the size of the grid!
The 3 cylinder Honda started easy lol, and all the chatter is in the engine not the bloody tyres.

Merv, I wonder how many guys on here nowdays know of or have experienced 'push starts' ?
Very,very few,we're a dying breed ! :eek5:

[merv]

Merv, I wonder how many guys on here nowdays know of or have experienced 'push starts' ?
Very,very few,we're a dying breed ! :eek5:

Yes, but at least most of the two strokes bumped over quite easily.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Some things you simply can not ride around. The front end issues with the Ducati he could, the back end chatter with the Honda he can't. From the apex to full upright is where Stoner is strongest and that's exactly where the chatter occurs. The nature of the problem means there is literally nothing he or anyone else can change style-wise to fix it except open the throttle later - which isn't a fix.

You're on a hiding to nothing being a Stoner fan mate!

[roogazza]

Yes, but at least most of the two strokes bumped over quite easily.

If you were a reasonably big strong guy with good technique,
one step and bang ! Amazing eerie quiet just before that first engine fired.

[SimJen]

Some things you simply can not ride around. The front end issues with the Ducati he could, the back end chatter with the Honda he can't. From the apex to full upright is where Stoner is strongest and that's exactly where the chatter occurs. The nature of the problem means there is literally nothing he or anyone else can change style-wise to fix it except open the throttle later - which isn't a fix.

Funny how Stoner seemingly can't ride around this issue, but he could ride around the Duc's front end (he must be awesome!).
All the Rossi haters (Stoner Fans) must find it hard to justify their mans abilities now, after they've been slagging of Rossi's issues for so long... ;)
I wonder if Rossi could ride around the Honda's chatter? :Pokey:
The difference is, Honda will throw whatever it takes at the bike/chassis to fix it as quick as humanly possible, Ducati will think its the riders problem!
And then once smoko is over they might change a couple of bolts or maybe hollow out an axle a little more....in true Italiano styles!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Funny how Stoner seemingly can't ride around this issue, but he could ride around the Duc's front end (he must be awesome!).
All the Rossi haters (Stoner Fans) must find it hard to justify their mans abilities now, after they've been slagging of Rossi's issues for so long... ;)


When Stoner gets beaten in qualifying by a guy on a sat bike on a semi reg basis I might start wondering.

[SimJen]

When Stoner gets beaten in qualifying by a guy on a sat bike on a semi reg basis I might start wondering.

haha me shit stirring ;)
Noone remembers who qualified where unless its on pole and then its only a side note to the final race positions that really matter!
In all fairness the guy you are referring too has had the same bike the whole year and is learning to cope with what he has, it has been completely untouched!
Rossi/Hayden are on an ever changing machine (not big enough changes mind you?)

[Crasherfromwayback]

haha me shit stirring ;)
Noone remembers who qualified where unless its on pole and then its only a side note to the final race positions that really matter!
In all fairness the guy you are referring too has had the same bike the whole year and is learning to cope with what he has, it has been completely untouched!
Rossi/Hayden are on an ever changing machine (not big enough changes mind you?)

Me likewise!

Look, Rossi simply isn't prepared to through himself down the road on a regular basis trying to prove things he long ago proved. I dig.

And I hope he's on a competitive bike next year. I also hope Hayden stays.

[SimJen]

And I hope he's on a competitive bike next year. I also hope Hayden stays.

Yeah me too, Hayden comes across as one of the good guys! A real gent and a family man and a fricken hard worker!
Ducati though would be looking to the future and need a young gun to do it! I reckon they should get the Duc race ready then only when Rossi retires get a young up and comer!
It can't hurt to develop a bike using a couple of previous world champions!

[Mental Trousers]

Who Ducati employs as their riders for 2013 is likely to be a purely marketing decision. From that perspective Rossi has to stay because that's the Italian market sown up. But America is a huge market for Ducati so they need someone with that passport to keep the yanks onside. After all, Americans are ridiculously patriotic and they're not going to support some arrogant prick with a weird accent like Crutchlow.

Having the right passport is often the thing that gets someone their ride. It's why Nicky Hayden got in at Ducati in the first place and it's why Ben Spies is most likely to retain his seat despite his results so far.

If Yamaha support Dovi with a full factory spec bike and backup like I think they should they'll have the 3 most important markets covered - Spain, America and Italy.

[Cleve]

If Yamaha support Dovi with a full factory spec bike and backup like I think they should they'll have the 3 most important markets covered - Spain, America and Italy.

3 most important markets I would think would be Indonesia, Vietnam and then perhaps America...?

[Mental Trousers]

3 most important markets I would think would be Indonesia, Vietnam and then perhaps America...?

Maybe for ring-a-ding scooters and the like, but I don't think they sell many R1's, FJR1300's, MT01's, V Star's, YZ's, WR's, XT660's, Grizzly's, Raptor's, Rhino's etc in Indo or Vietnam. You don't go MotoGP racing to sell 110cc scooters.

[Crasherfromwayback]

If you were a reasonably big strong guy with good technique,
one step and bang ! .

Don't even need to be that with smokers. Easy as piss to start.

[jasonu]

Merv, I wonder how many guys on here nowdays know of or have experienced 'push starts' ?
Very,very few,we're a dying breed ! :eek5:

Nice watch mate.
Was that Chopper Reid smoking a fag at 7m 10s???

[pritch]

You don't go MotoGP racing to sell 110cc scooters.

Ummm Yamaha may beg to differ. Lorenzo had the word "Jupiter" writ large across his arse, apparently Spies also has it somewhere on his leathers and it's on both bikes. The Jupiter Z1 is a 115cc bike.

The manufacturers are all looking hard at the Asian market, probably because a large part of the western world markets are stalled?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Ummm Yamaha may beg to differ. Lorenzo had the word "Jupiter" writ large across his arse, apparently Spies also has it somewhere on his leathers and it's on both bikes. The Jupiter Z1 is a 115cc bike.

The manufacturers are all looking hard at the Asian market, probably because a large part of the western world markets are stalled?

They'll be having the name of a curry chain on their arses in no time.

[pritch]

Listened to an interesting interview with Mike Webb Moto GP race director this afternoon. For part of it he was explaining the apparent discrepancy between penalties handed out.

I can't quote him exactly but he said words to the effect, all riders start a new season on zero points with Race Direction.
He said the public tend to look at the outcome of an accident whereas race direction are more focussed on the cause.

Simoncelli received a more serious penalty than Bautista because Simoncelli had been warned about his riding on a number of occasions previous to the crash he caused. Bautista had not received warnings, but it was felt that the error he made was larger than could be excused for a rider at that level, so he had to receive some penalty.

This would also explain why Rossi received no penalty for bringing down Stoner.

When the interviewer mentioned Marquez, Webb replied that Marquez is a "work in progress" and that he hopes Marquez has listened.
Be interesting to see how that works out.

He said the whole thing is a balancing act, they want to allow people to race hard but they don't want anybody needlessly risking the lives of other competitors.

Webb said that Race Direction have access to views and technology that the public do not see and he seems happy with the information available to the four man committee that comprises Race Direction.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Listened to an interesting interview with Mike Webb Moto GP race director this afternoon. For part of it he was explaining the apparent discrepancy between penalties handed out.

I can't quote him exactly but he said words to the effect, all riders start a new season on zero points with Race Direction.
He said the public tend to look at the outcome of an accident whereas race direction are more focussed on the cause.

Simoncelli received a more serious penalty than Bautista because Simoncelli had been warned about his riding on a number of occasions previous to the crash he caused. Bautista had not received warnings, but it was felt that the error he made was larger than could be excused for a rider at that level, so he had to receive some penalty.

This would also explain why Rossi received no penalty for bringing down Stoner.

.

What a crock of fucking shit. How does he reason, that Lorenzo doing EXACTLY the same fucking thing to Nicky Hayden at Phillip Island as Bautista did to Lorenzo is any different?

[wysper]

Don't even need to be that with smokers. Easy as piss to start.

Imagine starts like that with the Sporty LOL!! Fark that would be funny.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Imagine starts like that with the Sporty LOL!! Fark that would be funny.

They're not that hard to push start mate. Just need to use 3rd gear.

[wysper]

They're not that hard to push start mate. Just need to use 3rd gear.

Yeah but pushing 260 odd kgs off the start line would bugger you before the race even started.
Luckily I haven't had to try push starting mine.

[Geeen]

Yeah but pushing 260 odd kgs off the start line would bugger you before the race even started.
Luckily I haven't had to try push starting mine.

Thats only cause you is a scrawny weed:lol:

[denill]

Ummm Yamaha may beg to differ. Lorenzo had the word "Jupiter" writ large across his arse, apparently Spies also has it somewhere on his leathers and it's on both bikes. The Jupiter Z1 is a 115cc bike.

The manufacturers are all looking hard at the Asian market, probably because a large part of the western world markets are stalled?

Yep, they may just ride scooters but they follow MotoGP as fervently as KBers.

Mention MotoGP and you get "Rossi, Rossi"..............

[pritch]

What a crock of fucking shit. How does he reason, that Lorenzo doing EXACTLY the same fucking thing to Nicky Hayden at Phillip Island as Bautista did to Lorenzo is any different?

Mzybe you need to read it again? They are more interested in causes than results, and neither Lorenzo nor Hayden were mentioned.
What he said made sense to me.

Should you want to listen to the whole podcast - and you've got a lazy three hours plus? Knock yerself out :whistle:
http://www.motopodcast.com/motogpod-podcast-tags/motogpod

[Brian d marge]

Yep, they may just ride scooters but they follow MotoGP as fervently as KBers.

Mention MotoGP and you get "Rossi, Rossi"..............

i can tell you Honda are making a big push into India, Hence you might see a few "big " bike with vg fuel economy ..I know I’m helping them ..hehehehe



Stephen

[Crasherfromwayback]

Mzybe you need to read it again? Neither Lorenzo nor Hayden were mentioned. It made sense to me.

:

Get real. How 'bout you tell me the difference. Lorenzo and Hayen weren't mentioned of course. Why would they be? It's a few years ago. But what's the fucking difference? Was not Lorenzo banned from a race for his perceived dangerous riding not long before the phillip Island 'event'? Mike Webb and 'Race Direction' wank themselves about how fair they are, and yet, they have double standards depending on who does what! Rossi blatantly cuts inside of the track and gains an advantage over Stoner (Laguna Seca 08) who nearly crashes trying to avoid a collision.

Rossi bashes his own team mate at Montegi tying to prove a point, when Lerenzo has already proved who is the fastest.

They've all bashed fairings with each other, they've all got it wrong on occaision. It's fucking bullshit in my opinion to punish Bautista when the other 'stars' haven't been punished for basically the same fucking things.

Apart from his taking out of Gibernau when he was a Newby...have you ever seen Stoner fuck some other cunt up?

[steveyb]

Oh my gosh, such language.
I'm blushing......:(

[pritch]

Get real.

Perhaps you really should listen to the interview? You may still disagree, but then you'll actually know precisely what you are disagreeing with. It's quite possible my brief summation didn't do Webb's comments justice, but I thought he made his case.

Of course Marquez may test the sytem and Race Direction can confirm that it is unbiased. Or not?

And as for Stoner "fucking somebody up"? Not for at least a week!

[Oscar]

Get real. How 'bout you tell me the difference. Lorenzo and Hayen weren't mentioned of course. Why would they be? It's a few years ago. But what's the fucking difference? Was not Lorenzo banned from a race for his perceived dangerous riding not long before the phillip Island 'event'? Mike Webb and 'Race Direction' wank themselves about how fair they are, and yet, they have double standards depending on who does what! Rossi blatantly cuts inside of the track and gains an advantage over Stoner (Laguna Seca 08) who nearly crashes trying to avoid a collision.

Rossi bashes his own team mate at Montegi tying to prove a point, when Lerenzo has already proved who is the fastest.

They've all bashed fairings with each other, they've all got it wrong on occaision. It's fucking bullshit in my opinion to punish Bautista when the other 'stars' haven't been punished for basically the same fucking things.

Apart from his taking out of Gibernau when he was a Newby...have you ever seen Stoner fuck some other cunt up?

So explain Stoner t-boning Alvaro, and Race Directions response (which was allowing Casey to apologise, which apparently he did before he was asked too).



]

[Tony.OK]

have you ever seen Stoner fuck some other cunt up?

Nearly haha.............that move woulda seen Casey crying not long ago. Gonna be boring next year ain't it :niceone:

http://youtu.be/2cjOAsVyw8I

[roogazza]

Don't even need to be that with smokers. Easy as piss to start.

Agreed, but under race start conditions it becomes something a little different.
I know I'm older but I thought at least someone on here was my vintage and had experienced them. My heart seemed like it was going to jump out of my chest.

[Crasherfromwayback]

So explain Stoner t-boning Alvaro, and Race Directions response (which was allowing Casey to apologise, which apparently he did before he was asked too).



]

You call that T boning? Was nothing compared to Rossi's moves onLorenzo in Japan. And don't get me wrong...I'm all for it. But they've gotta be consistant...which they're not.

[george formby]

Yamaha!! (http://mag.gpweek.com/#folio=10)

Shirley not.

[Oscar]

Yamaha!! (http://mag.gpweek.com/#folio=10)

Shirley not.

Yup, seen that from several sources.
I asked Il Direttore and he hadn't heard it.

[DidJit]

Motomatters’ take (http://motomatters.com/analysis/2012/07/23/whither_valentino_just_where_will_rossi_.html) on all those Rossi rumours...

[Crasherfromwayback]

Motomatters’ take (http://motomatters.com/analysis/2012/07/23/whither_valentino_just_where_will_rossi_.html) on all those Rossi rumours...

For the sake of Moto GP racing, Rossi needs to be at the front fighting for wins.

[Reckless]

For the sake of Moto GP racing, Rossi needs to be at the front fighting for wins.

Its a damn pity Suzuki ain't coming back a year earlier :)

[Crasherfromwayback]

Its a damn pity Suzuki ain't coming back a year earlier :)

Yeah a team lead by Revvin Kevin with Rossi on board would be very interesting!

[Matt Bleck]

American Ben Spies said this morning that he won't be riding for Yamaha in MotoGP next season, that he has made the decision to leave the factory Yamaha team at the end of the 2012 season.

Spies said via email this morning:

Yesterday I made a comment on Twitter to cause a stir. (Today) I'll be more in saying that I have chosen to leave Yamaha after this season for a litany of reasons. I will explain more when I feel it is appropriate. I'm discussing my situation with my sponsors and they are behind me. There are a few people at Yamaha who I hate to leave. And they know who they are. I wish Yamaha the best. I won't make any further comments until the offical announcement comes out.

Spies won the World Superbike championship for Yamaha in 2009--his rookie season in WSBK. That remains Yamaha's only WSBK title. Spies also scored rookie of the year honors in Grand Prix in 2010 and also won the Dutch TT last season. He also nearly won the final Grand Prix of the 2011 season at Valencia, but was beaten to the line by World Champion Casey Stoner.

http://superbikeplanet.com/2012/Jul/120724spiesnoy.htm#.UA7yZVcYBl0.facebook

[Mental Trousers]

:gob:

Didn't think he'd bail. Dunno about Ben, but Lin Jarvis is a good reason for getting out of there if you ask me.

Dovi for the factory ride!!!!!

[Drew]

Never liked spies, he took the championship from Haga, in the last year Haga had a chance.

[White trash]

Never liked spies, he took the championship from Haga, in the last year Haga had a chance.

What a raving cock head. What Spies did in his maiden WSBK year was pure brilliance, absolutely inspiring to watch. If it was Haga's championship that Spies stole, why did Haga not win it?

I wanna see Spies jump back on a GSXR1000, go back to WSBK and kick some arse, Elbowz out.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Never liked spies, he took the championship from Haga, in the last year Haga had a chance.

Only Haga can be blamed for that mate.

[Drew]

What a raving cock head. What Spies did in his maiden WSBK year was pure brilliance, absolutely inspiring to watch. If it was Haga's championship that Spies stole, why did Haga not win it?

I wanna see Spies jump back on a GSXR1000, go back to WSBK and kick some arse, Elbowz out.
You fucking anal wart. I was merely saying I wanted Haga to win instead of Spies, and he would have if Spies wasn't fuckin awesome.

If Spies goes back to WSBK and rides for Suzuki I will be very torn. I am a Gixxer fan, but not a Spies fan.

[Drew]

Only Haga can be blamed for that mate.

I know I'm not over endowed with intellect, but you know I'm not retarded aye?

I am aware that Haga is to blame for not having ever won the title, but that doesn't mean I have to be happy about it.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I am aware that Haga is to blame for not having ever won the title, but that doesn't mean I have to be happy about it.

Haga and Aaron Slight. The two best superbike racers to have never won the title.

[carbonhed]

Weird that he's leaked this just prior to the two US rounds... Yamaha's going to be really pleased about that.

I blame the bird that hit Haga when he was leading Race 2 at Monza for his loss of the championship. Crashed, raced injured and crashed again getting even more injured. Fucking stupid bird :brick:

[Mental Trousers]

I wanna see Spies jump back on a GSXR1000, go back to WSBK and kick some arse, Elbowz out.

I don't think even Spies can make the GSXR win at the moment. It's too old and slow compared to everything else in WorldSBK now. Leon Camier is riding the arse off the thing at the moment and getting nowhere. I'm sure that once John Hopkins is close to healthy again he'll override it to try and get in the top 5, crash and stuff himself up once again.

[Badjelly]

Motomatters’ take (http://motomatters.com/analysis/2012/07/23/whither_valentino_just_where_will_rossi_.html) on all those Rossi rumours...

Good stuff. I especially like this bit, in hindsight:


Though it is entirely possible that Yamaha may decide not to extend Spies' contract, that it would be announced at Laguna Seca would be a form of PR suicide. Laguna Seca is one of the biggest events of the year for Yamaha, because of the pivotal role which Yamaha USA plays in the Japanese company's sales and marketing plans. Dumping an American rider at their biggest American event would be a faux pas of epic proportions.

Indeed.

I really really hate to say this, but right now it's more interesting than the racing.

[yod]

Haga and Aaron Slight. The two best superbike racers to have never won the title.

'kin OATH!

[yod]

Found this comment from http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/race/moto-gp-race/is-ducati-getting-there/ interesting



In Rossi’s first year at Ducati I was lucky enough to be at a fundraiser during the mid-season break where Burgess spoke for about 2.5 hours and fielded all manner of questions. On being asked about the quality of the Ducati GP bike he responded with a wry laugh saying “What quality?”.
He then went on to expand how even the simplest things like having a standard range of nuts and bolts attaching things seemd to be too hard for Ducati to organise, and how changing a rear wheel on the Ducati required 3 more spanners than on the Yamaha, and hence in practice they generally had one less tyre change available to them than the competition.
This is just one example of the complaints he had, but it says a lot about their approach.

[merv]

Haha, that's character all right. No Ducati for me I'll stick to my simple Honda :lol:

[Brian d marge]

dont know if this has been posted before...spies hasnt signed for yamaha ,just got an email,unsure of details

stephen

[rapid van cleef]

well its all over motogp that he's quiting yamaha.

[Brian d marge]

well its all over motogp that he's quiting yamaha.

ell,that was quick ...that was last night i got the email....

stephen

[merv]

Yeah we've talked about it here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/151407-Ok-so-where-is-Spies-in-2013? (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/151407-Ok-so-where-is-Spies-in-2013?highlight=spies+2013)

[Reckless]

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2012/Lorenzo+interview+USA+preevent

Jesus sound like Lorenzo is almost opening the door for Rossi??

"It could be a good thing for Yamaha. We have been a good couple in the past years, but it hasn’t been decided yet. My preference is to have a competitive rival in the team."


To be honest it could also be he knows Rossi ain't going to Yamaha and he's toying with everyone???

Who knows but I think Id like the see Rossi fighting for a podium on another brand rather then a two brand championship next year.
Not much to choice out there for him really??

[BMWST?]

Never liked spies, he took the championship from Haga, in the last year Haga had a chance.

Haga's teammate took the championship from him.

[denill]

Spies retiring????????????

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/Jul/120724-11a.htm

The reference to Croz was interesting. :cool:

[roogazza]

Spies retiring????????????

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/Jul/120724-11a.htm

The reference to Croz was interesting. :cool:

Yeah Bill, who could blame him if he did a Croz. Handful of money and his health.
A year off won't do him any favours, he'll be gone then.

[tbs]

If I was Lorenzo right now I'd be doing everything I could to get Rossi back in the factory team. I would want to beat him fair and square on equal machinery. Lorenzo is at the top of his game, and Rossi has had two demoralizing years fighting for mid pack finishes. Lorenzo could be the one to throw him a bone.... Bit of a gamble, but if you want to be the greatest, you've got to beat the greatest.

[Crasherfromwayback]

If I was Lorenzo right now I'd be doing everything I could to get Rossi back in the factory team. I would want to beat him fair and square on equal machinery. Lorenzo is at the top of his game, and Rossi has had two demoralizing years fighting for mid pack finishes. Lorenzo could be the one to throw him a bone.... Bit of a gamble, but if you want to be the greatest, you've got to beat the greatest.

Ummmm...he's actually already done that. It's called 2010.

[tbs]

Ummmm...he's actually already done that. It's called 2010.

I mean't to write "uninjured". One could argue that Lorenzo won because of Rossi's injury woes. In Lorenzo's shoes now, I would want to beat a healthy Rossi.

[Crasherfromwayback]

One could argue that Lorenzo won because of Rossi's injury woes.

Anyone that would say that is full of shit. Bit like saying if Lorenzo wins the title this year that it's only because Stoner crashed in Germany. Too bad. Only person that made either of them crash is themselves.

[bogan]

Anyone that would say that is full of shit. Bit like saying if Lorenzo wins the title this year that it's only because Stoner crashed in Germany. Too bad. Only person that made either of them crash is themselves.

His fault, yes. But you can still argue it would have been a much closer championship race had he not crashed. Robbed us of some good close racing I think. I think what tbs is saying, is if you want to be the GOAT, you need to beat the previous GOAT at their best.

[Crasherfromwayback]

His fault, yes. But you can still argue it would have been a much closer championship race had he not crashed. Robbed us of some good close racing I think. I think what tbs is saying, is if you want to be the GOAT, you need to beat the previous GOAT at their best.

I know exactly what he was saying. But if he remembers correctly, Lorenzo was already handing Rossi's arse to him on a plate before Rossi biffed it. And by the way...Rossi ain't the GOAT.

[White trash]

I know exactly what he was saying. But if he remembers correctly, Lorenzo was already handing Rossi's arse to him on a plate before Rossi biffed it. And by the way...Rossi ain't the GOAT.

Ah-fucking-men! Christ that term annoys me.

[bogan]

I know exactly what he was saying. But if he remembers correctly, Lorenzo was already handing Rossi's arse to him on a plate before Rossi biffed it. And by the way...Rossi ain't the GOAT.

This is where it gets arguable init, 9 points over three races isn't unrecoverable. Not sure if there is a GOAT myself, but Lorenzo seems like the type who would very much like to be...

[Crasherfromwayback]

Not sure if there is a GOAT myself, but Lorenzo seems like the type who would very much like to be...

Seems more like Rossis ego that's keeping him there trying to beat Ago's record to me. Lorenzo is still young and enjoying doing what he does. I simply hope like fuck Rossi does get a good ride next year. Else it's gonna be boring as fuck watching Lorenzo kick arse week in week out. Rossi is the only guy able to take it to him on a regular bassis I reckon.

[bogan]

I simply hope like fuck Rossi does get a good ride next year. Else it's gonna be boring as fuck watching Lorenzo kick arse week in week out. Rossi is the only guy able to take it to him on a regular bassis I reckon.

Same here, like them or not, Rossi, Lorenzo, and Stoner make for good watching.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Same here, like them or not, Rossi, Lorenzo, and Stoner make for good watching.

Exactly. All the haters saying good job Stoner's going are forgetting the big picture.

[Drew]

Exactly. All the haters saying good job Stoner's going are forgetting the big picture.

Guilty as charged your honour. Lots of us get caught up in our own favourites, which is where the entertainment comes from, but every hero needs a nemisis (insert 'Snatch' monologue here), otherwise they are just some dude that's good.

[bogan]

Exactly. All the haters saying good job Stoner's going are forgetting the big picture.

Most memorable race for me would be the Rossi-Stoner battle at Laguna Seca, followed by a couple of Rossi-Lorenzo battles at the end of 09. Stuff since then seems more like just one dude going fucking quick, which is impressive, but not edge of the seat watching.

[tbs]

I know exactly what he was saying. But if he remembers correctly, Lorenzo was already handing Rossi's arse to him on a plate before Rossi biffed it. And by the way...Rossi ain't the GOAT.

But a lot of Rossi fans still talk like he is.
To break Rossi's legacy it isn't enough for Lorenzo to have beaten him once, especially in a season where Rossi had to come back from injury... self inflicted or not. I reckon Lorenzo wants the chance to completely dominate Rossi, so that at the end of the season all he can say is that he was beaten by the better man.
Lorenzo started the job in 2010. Surely he wouldn't want Ducati to finish it for him?

[tail_end_charlie]

With as much success Rossi has had in the GP racing (9x WC) I would think that he is looking more at maintaining his legacy rather then winning races just to win races. He knows that Lorenzo is his closest match (probably doesn't think that Lorenzo is any better then himself, cause these guys have that much self confidence) and will know that it will be a out and out brawl to see which one o them could win a championship while both healthy and on the same bike. Rossi's legacy would be better served by sticking with the ugly Duckling and trying to build a competative MotoGP race bike out of it. If he could come out next year (lets face it, ain't gonna happen this year) and really challange Honda/Yamaha for the Championship, that would do more for his reputation than admitting defeat and running back to Yamaha. Even now that Ben is leaving (rather disappointing, hope he keeps racing somewhere) and an open Yamaha factory seat, I would surmise that Rossi is going to stay with Ducati for at least one more year, hoping that with Audi leaning on the Ducati leadership, that changes will happen and things will get better.


Now of course since I've said this Rossi will probably jump ship and make me look like a..............well, an L-plate rider I guess.

[DidJit]

Tellin' it (http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/road-racing/2012/07/26/colin-edwards-bike-s-crap-rules-suck/) like it is...

[White trash]

Tellin' it (http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/road-racing/2012/07/26/colin-edwards-bike-s-crap-rules-suck/) like it is...

Fuck he's a cool cunt.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Fuck he's a cool cunt.

Like he says. It's dangerous.

[DidJit]

I'm disappointed in the (seeming) lack of development going on with CRT. The concept promised much (at least to my naïve eyes) in that the little guy was being offered a way in to show off his stuff (engineering alternatives and whatnot), but the reality has delivered... not that much. I guess, like anything, it depends on money being poured in (which is currently obviously scant). Back to the problem of why CRT was brought to the table in the first place. Bring on those production racers! Maybe.

The other problem, which the silly season is highlighting, is that there are way more talented riders than there are available seats (which seem to be on the decline... again). But I guess that one is age old. I'm thinking WSBK might have an absolute pearler of a season next year...

[DidJit]

A little more from the inimitable CEII (http://youtu.be/nK9Yy8HCdyg)...

[Geeen]

A little more from the inimitable CEII (http://youtu.be/nK9Yy8HCdyg)...

Good link. Colin is awesome at taking MotoGP seriously:lol:

[White trash]

Good link. Colin is awesome at taking MotoGP seriously:lol:

What's also awesome about CEII, is all his competitors also seem to think he's a genuine GC. I don't recall ever reading an interview with a rider that spoke ill of him.

[Crasherfromwayback]

What's also awesome about CEII, is all his competitors also seem to think he's a genuine GC. I don't recall ever reading an interview with a rider that spoke ill of him.

That all changes when they see you as a threat on the track.

[Drew]

Good link. Colin is awesome at taking MotoGP seriously:lol:


What's also awesome about CEII, is all his competitors also seem to think he's a genuine GC. I don't recall ever reading an interview with a rider that spoke ill of him.


He is a 'lad'. There for love of riding motorbikes, and lucky enough to get paid for it. More like him would be a very great thing for the sport.

[Drew]

That all changes when they see you as a threat on the track.Pretty cynicle there Pete.

I prefer to think it's just because he's a good bastard. Really nice guy when I met him.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Pretty cynicle there Pete.

.

I'm taking the piss ya numpty.

[Drew]

I'm taking the piss ya numpty.

You better be, I hear that Chuck Norris does all the sorting out of CE haters.

[Crasherfromwayback]

You better be, I hear that Chuck Norris does all the sorting out of CE haters.

I'd be more scared of CE and his cachet of weapons.

[DidJit]

How fun would his boot camp be though!

Colin Edwards ‏@texastornado5

“Sooo, in 2 weeks, Texas Tornado Bootcamp, Special Guests---Jorge Lorenzo, Randy Krummenacher, Bradley Smith, Randy DePuniet. Sign up now!”

[White trash]

How fun would his boot camp be though!

Colin Edwards ‏@texastornado5

If I win Lotto this Saturday, that's exactly what I've earmarked a portion for :)

[Crasherfromwayback]

If I win Lotto this Saturday, that's exactly what I've earmarked a portion for :)

You'll be taking me with you too cuntox.

[White trash]

You'll be taking me with you too cuntox.

Wouldn't be the same without ya :D

[Crasherfromwayback]

Wouldn't be the same without ya :D

Do you actually buy Lotto tickets?

[White trash]

Do you actually buy Lotto tickets?

Not often, no. Got one for this week though, it's me only chance to get to Boot Camp.

[Crasherfromwayback]

. Got one for this week

I'll be nice then.

Cunt.

[Drew]

This, like all threads, has finally degraded to the point, where Jimmy gets called a cunt.

And all was right with the world.:sleep:

[BMWST?]

cs for the win or bin

[Robert Taylor]

This, like all threads, has finally degraded to the point, where Jimmy gets called a cunt.

And all was right with the world.:sleep:

He is a GC though.

[Drew]

He is a GC though.

Could be. I wont align myself with either view for now.

[Matt Bleck]

Wow, Edwards is looking good in FP1, did they change the frame?

[merv]

I love this, Bradl on the streets of San Francisco http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2012/Bradls+MotoGP+Run+in+San+Francisco

[Drew]

Wow, Edwards is looking good in FP1, did they change the frame?

He's on the Aprilia now.

[Crasherfromwayback]

He's on the Aprilia now.

Superbike Planet has him listed as being on a Suter. That's not Aprilia powered is it?

[Cleve]

I love this, Bradl on the streets of San Francisco http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2012/Bradls+MotoGP+Run+in+San+Francisco

Who is the Mayor of SF? He also let the stunt ralley car driver hoon around there not long ago as well.

[Drew]

Superbike Planet has him listed as being on a Suter. That's not Aprilia powered is it?

Didn't he say they were changing bikes (or hoping to) in that interview that was linked?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Didn't he say they were changing bikes (or hoping to) in that interview that was linked?

Yeah I believe so. Not sure he's done it yet though.

[Drew]

Yeah I believe so. Not sure he's done it yet though.
He says the bike he's on is shit, but he can make it work, he won the first race on it.

[Mental Trousers]

Colin was meant to have tested 3 bikes on the Monday after the last race - an updated version of the BMW/Suter, a Honda/FTR and an Aprilia. Whether he did or not I have no idea but that was the rumour going around.

I'm more interested in what Pedro and Stoner tested at that session and whether they're riding the new bikes this weekend.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Colin was meant to have tested 3 bikes on the Monday after the last race - an updated version of the BMW/Suter, a Honda/FTR and an Aprilia. Whether he did or not I have no idea but that was the rumour going around.

I'm more interested in what Pedro and Stoner tested at that session and whether they're riding the new bikes this weekend.

Think Pedro is on the new bike, Stoner new engine/old chassis

[BMWST?]

can anyone comment on why casey says the chatter is better going left than right???

[Crasherfromwayback]

can anyone comment on why casey says the chatter is better going left than right???

He has one nut bigger than the other?

[BMWST?]

He has one nut bigger than the other?

at this point that seems to make as much sense as any other explanation!

[Mental Trousers]

Even the best riders in the world go around left handers differently to right handers. Nobody is perfectly symmetrical in their riding. Probably doing something right handers that he doesn't on lefts.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Even the best riders in the world go around left handers differently to right handers. Nobody is perfectly symmetrical in their riding. Probably doing something right handers that he doesn't on lefts.

Being an ex dirt track/flat track racer that's probably well correct.

[Maido]

Interesting Hayes P1 DMG superbike, 1.24.99 would have him in 17th for the Motogp grid (p2), minus prototype chassis and spec tyres.

[carbonhed]

Thought that was a hell of a call for Spies going out again after that blow to the head.

[cmoore]

nice laps by lorenzo....looked superfast.....still lots of chat about who might get the second bike next year....good for Yamaha i think as it seems everyone wants that ride...

I like Laguna but as a race meeting i just don't get them only having MotoGP and not moto2&3.......certainly not one i would spend money to go to....

Stoner and perdrosa were fast so looking forward to the race...seems tyre choice will make or break the race....so be interesting to see what each team select

[BMWST?]

the pit area is so restricted they cant fit the whole motogp circus there

[Crasherfromwayback]

I like Laguna but as a race meeting i just don't get them only having MotoGP and not moto2&3.......certainly not one i would spend money to go to....



Nah it's an awesome GP to go to mate. Only one you can guarantee it won't rain at. 25-28 deg every day. Silicon tits everywhere, and the AMA curtain raisers are normally as good as moto2/3. PLus it's an incredible track to spectate at.

[Mental Trousers]

I like Laguna but as a race meeting i just don't get them only having MotoGP and not moto2&3.......certainly not one i would spend money to go to....


the pit area is so restricted they cant fit the whole motogp circus there

They also run the AMA meeting at the same time. Partly to get Americans along cos MotoGP isn't an American series so they don't get too interested in it. But also because there's a very limited number of opportunities for bike meetings there. Bloody cars are way more important to most people.

[GD66]

the pit area is so restricted they cant fit the whole motogp circus there


They've already arseholed Moto2 and Moto3 out of the pits everywhere else. The problem is the Dorna wankers wanted to screw even more dough out of SCRAMP for the support classes.

[Shaun]

They also run the AMA meeting at the same time. Partly to get Americans along cos MotoGP isn't an American series so they don't get too interested in it. But also because there's a very limited number of opportunities for bike meetings there. Bloody cars are way more important to most people.




Man you know a lot about the international race scene after reading your posts for the last few months

[Drew]

Man you know a lot about the international race scene after reading your posts for the last few months

That'd be because he reads more than just the dribble on this site. We don't all have your number to get the exact inside skinny from you ya know.

[Shaun]

That'd be because he reads more than just the dribble on this site. We don't all have your number to get the exact inside skinny from you ya know.




My comment to the man was in admiration ya dick licker

[Drew]

My comment to the man was in admiration ya dick licker

Fair enough ya angry gnome, Was a knee jerk reaction given the history.

[DidJit]

Stoner is the man.

Think the M1 might be looking more and more appealing to Rossi... Nice touch by Nicky at the end there though.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Stoner is the man.

Think the M1 might be looking more and more appealing to Rossi... Nice touch by Nicky at the end there though.

As I've said before. Doesn't look like a man that's given up to me.

[denill]

Stoner is the man.

It's a bad day for MotoGP when he goes. :weep:

[denill]

Think the M1 might be looking more and more appealing to Rossi... Nice touch by Nicky at the end there though.

Why are Ducati offering mega Euros to Rossi when he is regularly out qualified by Hayden, plus, before he biffed it he was 7 secs from Hayden.

If it's down to performance - Hayden is the main man for Ducati. ;)

[Crasherfromwayback]

Why are Ducati offering mega Euros to Rossi when he is regularly out qualified by Hayden, plus, before he biffed it he was 7 secs from Hayden.

If it's down to performance - Hayden is the main man for Ducati. ;)

Hayden is now back in front of Rossi points wise too. Kinda where he actually deserves to be.

[tbs]

Feel bad for Spies today.
He wasn't exactly running for the podium, but he'd gapped the Tech 3 boys a bit when he went down. I was looking at his bike and thinking it looked broken... Like a shock or swing-arm break, but the commentators didn't pick up on it. Even post race when they showed the crash from multiple angles they thought it was due to him hitting a bump...
Just looked on Motomatters and Spies was saying the swingarm broke..... Bugger. You'd have to feel a bit cursed if you were him this season.
Nice ride by Stoner for sure, and real happy for Nicky today. For a number of reasons.

[denill]

Feel bad for Spies today.
He wasn't exactly running for the podium, but he'd gapped the Tech 3 boys a bit when he went down. I was looking at his bike and thinking it looked broken... Like a shock or swing-arm break, but the commentators didn't pick up on it. Even post race when they showed the crash from multiple angles they thought it was due to him hitting a bump...
Just looked on Motomatters and Spies was saying the swingarm broke..... Bugger. You'd have to feel a bit cursed if you were him this season.
Nice ride by Stoner for sure, and real happy for Nicky today. For a number of reasons.

That is one of the scariest part of any form of motor racing. When the rider/driver does nothing wrong - and crashes :weep:

And I also was willing him on.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Feel bad for Spies today.
He wasn't exactly running for the podium, but he'd gapped the Tech 3 boys a bit when he went down. I was looking at his bike and thinking it looked broken... Like a shock or swing-arm break, but the commentators didn't pick up on it. Even post race when they showed the crash from multiple angles they thought it was due to him hitting a bump...
Just looked on Motomatters and Spies was saying the swingarm broke..... Bugger. You'd have to feel a bit cursed if you were him this season.
Nice ride by Stoner for sure, and real happy for Nicky today. For a number of reasons.

Yeah it looked low in the arse for sure. Cursed alright. Stoner will rue the 20 points he gave away in Germany at the end of the year I reckon. Mind you...looks like he just loves winning races, and if the title follows top show! Still 8 races to go.

[denill]

He can't take a trick............

http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/182475/1/ben_spies_accident_caused_by_broken_swingarm.html

[Crasherfromwayback]

Not cool. Lucky it wasn't Lorenzo.

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2012/united+states+laguna+seca+yamaha+factory

[merv]

Spies weighs too much compared to the midget aliens I reckon :brick:

[GD66]

... Like a shock or swing-arm break, but the commentators didn't pick up on it. Even post race when they showed the crash from multiple angles they thought it was due to him hitting a bump...



That pair of clowns wouldn't have a clue, mate. Sad.

Masters of the constant repetition of cliches, however...:weep:

[Wingnut]

That pair of clowns wouldn't have a clue, mate. Sad.

Masters of the constant repetition of cliches, however...:weep:

Yep - Those commentators are average. :brick:

I wait and watch the Eurosport coverage each time with Toby Moody and Julian Ryder + the always informative Neil Spalding...... They make it sooooo much more entertaining!

Sky should get onto that coverage!

[Cleve]

Yep - Those commentators are average. :brick:

I wait and watch the Eurosport coverage each time with Toby Moody and Julian Ryder + the always informative Neil Spalding...... They make it sooooo much more entertaining!

Sky should get onto that coverage!

Me too and absolutely agree. Those 3 are great. I only download the Eurosport torrent from Racing for Me.

Well done to Stoner. The 2nd 1/2 of the season is at tracks that suit Stoner better - so hopefully will be close by Valencia.

[Mental Trousers]

Yep - Those commentators are average. :brick:

I wait and watch the Eurosport coverage each time with Toby Moody and Julian Ryder + the always informative Neil Spalding...... They make it sooooo much more entertaining!

Sky should get onto that coverage!

Me too. While I love watching motorbike racing dumb arse commentators piss me off. Ryder, Moody and Spalding have impressed me with how the breadth and depth of their knowledge of motobike racing.

Case in point was the Spies crash. Within 30 seconds they were asking if something had broken on the bike because the crash shouldn't have damaged the rear suspension like it had, which they saw from the marshalls pushing the bike away.

Also, the wife thinks Spalders sounds sexy :facepalm:

[rapid van cleef]

so ive been looking for 'racing for me' torrent site but that appears closed. i used to go on racing underground but i got so manys issues with my computer after that i stoped using it. i much prefer the eurosport coverage too.

[Brian d marge]

Isnt Spalders a kiwi originally ?

Stephen

[Matt Bleck]

so ive been looking for 'racing for me' torrent site but that appears closed. i used to go on racing underground but i got so manys issues with my computer after that i stoped using it. i much prefer the eurosport coverage too.

it's still there mate http://www.racingfor.me

it does have a security certificate issue at the moment tho.......

[ecko_nzed]

it's still there mate http://www.racingfor.me

it does have a security certificate issue at the moment tho.......

Cos that's not dodgey!

Sent from my HTC One V using Tapatalk 2

[roogazza]

It's a bad day for MotoGP when he goes. :weep:

Although after that little grizzle/rant after qualifying I must admit I was hoping he would cook that soft rear.
Seems the gamble worked for Stoner. Horhay played safe and grabbed the 20 points.
My Fav Vale, had a big one by the looks.
Eddie Lawson once said, "they'll forget me next week". Wonder if they'll remember Stoner for long ?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Although after that little grizzle/rant after qualifying I must admit I was hoping he would cook that soft rear.
Seems the gamble worked for Stoner. Horhay played safe and grabbed the 20 points.
My Fav Vale, had a big one by the looks.
Eddie Lawson once said, "they'll forget me next week". Wonder if they'll remember Stoner for long ?

Haters will always hate. Fourth over all in wins in the class behind Rossi, Ago and Doohan. I think he'll be remembered just fine.

[Drew]

Haters will always hate. Fourth over all in wins in the class behind Rossi, Ago and Doohan. I think he'll be remembered just fine.

OK Pete, we get it. You have an ifinity with the short ugly dude, and we get why, but don't take it so personal man.

He'll be remembered alright, but never like Agostini or Doohan. Valentino will be remembered differently to the all I think, he's always played it different. He's more like Swantz to my mind, with a higher success rate of pulling off unfathomable moves though.

[Crasherfromwayback]

OK Pete, we get it. You have an ifinity with the short ugly dude, and we get why, but don't take it so personal man.

He'll be remembered alright, but never like Agostini or Doohan. Valentino will be remembered differently to the all I think, he's always played it different. He's more like Swantz to my mind, with a higher success rate of pulling off unfathomable moves though.

Yeah I don't think he even has a right to be compared to Ago, Doohan or Rossi mate. But I can admit that, as much as a fan as I am. So I think you have me misunderstood. And I think we get how you despise him, his wife, his money and his lifestyle mate.

Ps: You moan about his moaning as much as he moans.

[Cleve]

I love the latest from Motomatters - his comment on the style difference between Stoner and Lorenzo is pure writing brilliance.

"Watching the two men circulate provides a stunning contrast, and is a thing of beauty to behold. Lorenzo, at his most 'Mantequilla' is smooth as butter on a summer's day. He never looks like he is trying, riding more like he was being scored for style than racing a motorcycle at the outer limits of its performance envelope. Stoner, on the other hand, punishes the Honda RC213V beneath him as if he had been taking lessons from Torquemada. His style is wild, ragged, throwing the bike around and letting it squirm and wriggle like a captured eel. Lorenzo rounds the corners with the grand sweeping gestures of a medieval nobleman, while Stoner flings the bike into the corner, squares it off, and squirts it out like a Victorian pugilist, doing it what it takes to beat the corner into submission. Though there may not be passing on every lap, yet there is great aesthetic appeal in watching the two best motorcycle racers of the moment slug it out."

[Crasherfromwayback]

I love the latest from Motomatters - his comment on the style difference between Stoner and Lorenzo is pure writing brilliance.

"Watching the two men circulate provides a stunning contrast, and is a thing of beauty to behold. Lorenzo, at his most 'Mantequilla' is smooth as butter on a summer's day. He never looks like he is trying, riding more like he was being scored for style than racing a motorcycle at the outer limits of its performance envelope. Stoner, on the other hand, punishes the Honda RC213V beneath him as if he had been taking lessons from Torquemada. His style is wild, ragged, throwing the bike around and letting it squirm and wriggle like a captured eel. Lorenzo rounds the corners with the grand sweeping gestures of a medieval nobleman, while Stoner flings the bike into the corner, squares it off, and squirts it out like a Victorian pugilist, doing it what it takes to beat the corner into submission. Though there may not be passing on every lap, yet there is great aesthetic appeal in watching the two best motorcycle racers of the moment slug it out."

Couldn't agree more. Rach and I made pretty much the same comments last night when she watched the replay. We just aren't nearly as good with words!

[rachprice]

I love the latest from Motomatters - his comment on the style difference between Stoner and Lorenzo is pure writing brilliance.

"Watching the two men circulate provides a stunning contrast, and is a thing of beauty to behold. Lorenzo, at his most 'Mantequilla' is smooth as butter on a summer's day. He never looks like he is trying, riding more like he was being scored for style than racing a motorcycle at the outer limits of its performance envelope. Stoner, on the other hand, punishes the Honda RC213V beneath him as if he had been taking lessons from Torquemada. His style is wild, ragged, throwing the bike around and letting it squirm and wriggle like a captured eel. Lorenzo rounds the corners with the grand sweeping gestures of a medieval nobleman, while Stoner flings the bike into the corner, squares it off, and squirts it out like a Victorian pugilist, doing it what it takes to beat the corner into submission. Though there may not be passing on every lap, yet there is great aesthetic appeal in watching the two best motorcycle racers of the moment slug it out."

Well said!

And its why I love watching the both of them

[Crasherfromwayback]

Well said!

And its why I love watching the both of them

I dunno if I've EVER seen another racer look as smooth and effortless as Lorenzo does.

[denill]

I love the latest from Motomatters - his comment on the style difference between Stoner and Lorenzo is pure writing brilliance.

"Watching the two men circulate provides a stunning contrast, and is a thing of beauty to behold. Lorenzo, at his most 'Mantequilla' is smooth as butter on a summer's day. He never looks like he is trying, riding more like he was being scored for style than racing a motorcycle at the outer limits of its performance envelope. Stoner, on the other hand, punishes the Honda RC213V beneath him as if he had been taking lessons from Torquemada. His style is wild, ragged, throwing the bike around and letting it squirm and wriggle like a captured eel. Lorenzo rounds the corners with the grand sweeping gestures of a medieval nobleman, while Stoner flings the bike into the corner, squares it off, and squirts it out like a Victorian pugilist, doing it what it takes to beat the corner into submission. Though there may not be passing on every lap, yet there is great aesthetic appeal in watching the two best motorcycle racers of the moment slug it out."

Very well put indeed. Watching that race I wondered how could anyone not say they enjoyed that. The two different styles were well showcased and no matter who won - we saw two great racers and competitors going at it.

BUT, who is going to step up in 2013 and take it to Jorge?? :(

[Crasherfromwayback]

Very well put indeed. Watching that race I wondered how could anyone not say they enjoyed that. The two different styles were well showcased and no matter who won - we saw two great racers and competitors going at it.

BUT, who is going to step up in 2013 and take it to Jorge?? :(

If only poor old Simo was still around! But I reckon Stoners replacement might have the goods. If someone doesn't knock his block off first. Take him most of the first season to get up to speed though I reckon.

[DidJit]

I tend to agree with Nicky Hayden's assessment (http://motomatters.com/news/2012/07/02/nicky_hayden_on_cal_crutchlow_the_right_.html) more than David's hyperbole on this occasion.


“When people talk about Stoner, they say you gotta be aggressive, and really work that Ducati. But when you saw Stoner go fast on the Ducati he let the bike move, the bike moved but he didn't. He was smooth. You know, his body, he never fought the bike, he let the bike just move under him.”

Stoner may let the bike “squirm and wriggle”, but he himself is actually quite smooth on top of it. (Granted, he's not like La Mantequilla.) Still, stunning to watch them race together. :yes:

That first lap shot of all the bikes coming over the corkscrew is always great to watch too.

As for who's going to step up... A young upstart perhaps? Maybe a veteran may get to run up the front again too...

[Drew]

Yeah I don't think he even has a right to be compared to Ago, Doohan or Rossi mate. But I can admit that, as much as a fan as I am. So I think you have me misunderstood. And I think we get how you despise him, his wife, his money and his lifestyle mate.

Ps: You moan about his moaning as much as he moans.

I am envious of him for everything except his missus, but that aint why I have a problem with his attitude. I just don't get him I guess.

I don't hate him, I don't know him.

I make jokes about his moaning, well...every time he talks to the press. I think it's funny, cos it's true.

[Kendog]

I dunno if I've EVER seen another racer look as smooth and effortless as Lorenzo does.
I often think this in qualifying when there are no other riders around him. The number of times it has looked like he is riding slowly back to the pits, only to set a new fastest lap.

It really is pretty to watch.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I make jokes about his moaning, well...every time he talks to the press. I think it's funny, cos it's true.

And I'm in awe of his riding every time he rides. Cause it's true. Get it?

[Drew]

And I'm in awe of his riding every time he rides. Cause it's true. Get it?

Now don't get short with me Mr Frodo.

I get it mate, and I am amazed by his riding too.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Now don't get short with me Mr Frodo.



Merely pointing out your hypocrisy mate. I know how you hate hypocrisy!:sunny:

[Drew]

Merely pointing out your hypocrisy mate. I know how you hate hypocrisy!:sunny:Fair enough:cool:


We're all, every single one of us, hypocrites. I just don't like it is all.:weep:

[rachprice]

Lorenzo may look effortless, but that wee moment on the entry to the corkscrew shows he really is trying fucking hard (not often you see Lorenzo have a moment!)

I reckon Marquez will go well and while he isn't my favourite, I look forward to seeing him kick some ass

And how can you not be jealous of stoner and his wife....I am :drool:

[Oscar]

Dobbi talks about his chances of a Yamaha factory ride:


"This is what I expected, but it looks like Valentino is really close. So I don’t know exactly; it’s not fixed. This is really bad for me because I swapped to Yamaha because I believed I can find a place in the factory team."

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2012/Dovizioso+frets+over+factory+Yamaha+ride

[Crasherfromwayback]

Dobbi talks about his chances of a Yamaha factory ride:

Fuck if I was Yamaha...I'd rather have Dovi on the team. Not because Rossi ain't faster...but because he is! Last thing I'd want would be Montegi 2010 at every race!

[Drew]

Lorenzo may look effortless, but that wee moment on the entry to the corkscrew shows he really is trying fucking hard (not often you see Lorenzo have a moment!)

I reckon Marquez will go well and while he isn't my favourite, I look forward to seeing him kick some ass

And how can you not be jealous of stoner and his wife....I am :drool:George is pushing alright, he's just so smooth, and he does it so progressively that he looks to be out for a Sunday ride.

Don't have an opinion on Marquez, I don't watch the Moto2.

Mrs Stoner doesn't do it for me, each to their own.




Fuck if I was Yamaha...I'd rather have Dovi on the team. Not because Rossi ain't faster...but because he is! Last thing I'd want would be Montegi 2010 at every race!I find it very hard to believe that Yamaha are even considering a Rossi/Lorenzo team, but I think if you put Dovi on a factory machine, they'll have the same problem as 2010 anyway.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I find it very hard to believe that Yamaha are even considering a Rossi/Lorenzo team, but I think if you put Dovi on a factory machine, they'll have the same problem as 2010 anyway.

Considering Rossi told Yamaha "It's him or me" in 2010, I find it very funny he'll even consider going back as their number two rider. I think Dovi is fucking good. But I don't think he's Lorenzo good. He wasn't Stoner good whilst at HRC.

[Drew]

I think Dovi is fucking good. But I don't think he's Lorenzo good. He wasn't Stoner good whilst at HRC.

That's the thing with him though. He was podium good...lots. If he manages to get close to Lorenzo, he'll take gaps that are...less gap like than what others look for. It'll be paint trading racing.

[Crasherfromwayback]

That's the thing with him though. He was podium good...lots. If he manages to get close to Lorenzo, he'll take gaps that are...less gap like than what others look for. It'll be paint trading racing.

Like I said. He wasn't good enough in 2011. But I do think he was unlucky to have been given the arse by HRC.

[denill]

The trick for Teams are to have two riders who complement each other.

Lorenzo and Rossi did NOT do that when they were in the same team - and why will they complement each other if they join up again? It'll be all on with handbags again.....................

Stoner and Pedro are probably a good mix. Dunno about Cal and Dovi??

[Drew]

Compliment each other? Only one can win.

The most important person to beat on the track is your team mate. That way, your job is safer than his.

There is little co-operation, and less friendships between team mates in any garage that I've seen.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Should I have been graced with skill enough to get me into Moto GP, I'd want the best cunt as my team mate. Give you something to aim for/beat. I lost a lil bit of respect for Rossi when he told Yamaha it's Lorenzo or me. Surely if you're THE man...wouldn't matter a fuck who your team mate was? It's one thing I've never seen Stoner moan about! :baby: Most other things yes...

[Mental Trousers]

Dovi is THE best wingman to have in MotoGP. He'll be right there on Jorge's arse all day long so if Jorge crashes Dovi snaps up the win.

He's like Colin Edwards used to be, the best of the rest. What you don't want in the factory team is 2 guys who are clearly better than everyone else that go and knock each other off, cause management all kinds of headaches with who is the number one rider arguments and don't share data. That's what Yamaha had and it wasn't a good thing.

Dovi for the other factory Yamaha seat!!!

[Crasherfromwayback]

That's what Yamaha had and it wasn't a good thing.

Dovi for the other factory Yamaha seat!!!

That's why I cannae for the life of me understand why they'd want Rossi back.

[Oscar]

That's why I cannae for the life of me understand why they'd want Rossi back.

The reason is very simple - I've never heard anyone say "..do you know where I can buy a replica Dovi helmet..?" (or Dovi Bike, Dovi Boots or Dovi Jockstrap).

I'm sure that whereas the Yamaha Racing management would rather stick needles in their eyes than put up with a Rossi/Lorenzo garage again, the Yamaha marketing department is having collective and multiple orgasms over the prospect...

[Crasherfromwayback]

The reason is very simple - I've never heard anyone say "..do you know where I can buy a replica Dovi helmet..?" (or Dovi Bike, Dovi Boots or Dovi Jockstrap).

I'm sure that whereas the Yamaha Racing management would rather stick needles in their eyes than put up with a Rossi/Lorenzo garage again, the Yamaha marketing department is having collective and multiple orgasms over the prospect...

Perhaps not. But there's a shitload of Lorenzo gear out there. Mind you...Rossi will also bring plenty of outside sponsorship moola too I guess!

[denill]

Perhaps not. But there's a shitload of Lorenzo gear out there. Mind you...Rossi will also bring plenty of outside sponsorship moola too I guess!

95% of the gear at Brno last year was Rossi's. From different eras, such as Yamaha. But yeah, Rossi got paid for it.

A very distance next was, surprisingly, Pedro's.

[Crasherfromwayback]

95% of the gear at Brno last year was Rossi's. From different eras, such as Yamaha. But yeah, Rossi got paid for it.

A very distance next was, surprisingly, Pedro's.

Yeah but at Valencia it was all Lorenzo and Rossi...about 50/50.

[Brian d marge]

Should I have been graced with skill enough to get me into Moto GP, I'd want the best cunt as my team mate. Give you something to aim for/beat.

That would have been me then , No my fault Yamaha didnt ring

Stephen

[carbonhed]

I LOL'd. Poor old Rossi.

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r319/carbonhed/Ducati.jpg

[Crasherfromwayback]

I LOL'd. Poor old Rossi.

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r319/carbonhed/Ducati.jpg

Pretty much where he's been all season. Done a fair bit of bitching/moaning too.:baby:

[merv]

Is that panniers and a top box on that bike? Who would trust that bike to tour on?

[Trudes]

I make jokes about his moaning, well...every time he talks to the press. I think it's funny, cos it's true.

I used to laugh at Stoner's moaning too and then I took a bit of notice at the kind of questions he gets asked. They are generally questions that lead him into having a moan. "So what went wrong today Casey?", "You looked like you weren't too happy today Casey", "The tyres looked like they were a bit poked by the end of the day Casey". I guess if you're a little inclined to tell it like it is and get asked leading questions like that then you probably do sound like you're constantly having a winge.

[Drew]

I used to laugh at Stoner's moaning too and then I took a bit of notice at the kind of questions he gets asked. They are generally questions that lead him into having a moan. "So what went wrong today Casey?", "You looked like you weren't too happy today Casey", "The tyres looked like they were a bit poked by the end of the day Casey". I guess if you're a little inclined to tell it like it is and get asked leading questions like that then you probably do sound like you're constantly having a winge.

Good call, I hadn't thought of that.

[ecko_nzed]

And how can you not be jealous of stoner and his wife....I am :drool:

Easy, my teeth don't look like piano keys.

oh and my wife is smokin hot:blip:

[ecko_nzed]

I used to laugh at Stoner's moaning too and then I took a bit of notice at the kind of questions he gets asked. They are generally questions that lead him into having a moan. "So what went wrong today Casey?", "You looked like you weren't too happy today Casey", "The tyres looked like they were a bit poked by the end of the day Casey". I guess if you're a little inclined to tell it like it is and get asked leading questions like that then you probably do sound like you're constantly having a winge.

I like that he's happy to give his opinion, and not that of their senior PR person. Far too chummy at those post race conferences for my liking :girlfight:

[Drew]

I like that he's happy to give his opinion, and not that of their senior PR person. Far too chummy at those post race conferences for my liking :girlfight:
Bring back Biaggi, put him and Rossi on equal bikes and let the fun begin I say.

[ecko_nzed]

Bring back Biaggi, put him and Rossi on equal bikes and let the fun begin I say.

geez that'd be handbags at dawn

[Crasherfromwayback]

Bring back Biaggi, put him and Rossi on equal bikes and let the fun begin I say.

Biaggi wouldn't see which way he went.

[BMWST?]

I love the latest from Motomatters - his comment on the style difference between Stoner and Lorenzo is pure writing brilliance.

"Watching the two men circulate provides a stunning contrast, and is a thing of beauty to behold. Lorenzo, at his most 'Mantequilla' is smooth as butter on a summer's day. He never looks like he is trying, riding more like he was being scored for style than racing a motorcycle at the outer limits of its performance envelope. Stoner, on the other hand, punishes the Honda RC213V beneath him as if he had been taking lessons from Torquemada. His style is wild, ragged, throwing the bike around and letting it squirm and wriggle like a captured eel. Lorenzo rounds the corners with the grand sweeping gestures of a medieval nobleman, while Stoner flings the bike into the corner, squares it off, and squirts it out like a Victorian pugilist, doing it what it takes to beat the corner into submission. Though there may not be passing on every lap, yet there is great aesthetic appeal in watching the two best motorcycle racers of the moment slug it out."

whilst stoner may look ragged i dont thinks it his inputs,i think he just lets the bike move and wriggle around.I dont think a rough style would result in a soft rear tyre lasting the whole race.I aslo dont think he "squares it of in the normal sense,he gets on the gas miles earlier than anyone else

[Drew]

Biaggi wouldn't see which way he went.OK, we'll leave Vale on the heap of shit he's riding now, and Biaggi can ride the Yamaha.

[Crasherfromwayback]

OK, we'll leave Vale on the heap of shit he's riding now, and Biaggi can ride the Yamaha.

Make Rossi remove a plug lead and you're getting close to fair.

[Drew]

Make Rossi remove a plug lead and you're getting close to fair.I don't think the electronics will like that very much.

[roogazza]

Little chat with Rossi.

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2012/Jul/120730c.htm

[codgyoleracer]

Should I have been graced with skill enough to get me into Moto GP, I'd want the best cunt as my team mate. Give you something to aim for/beat. I lost a lil bit of respect for Rossi when he told Yamaha it's Lorenzo or me. Surely if you're THE man...wouldn't matter a fuck who your team mate was? It's one thing I've never seen Stoner moan about! :baby: Most other things yes...

Agree, its one tough call to make on the road to self-improvement

[george formby]

whilst stoner may look ragged i dont thinks it his inputs,i think he just lets the bike move and wriggle around.I dont think a rough style would result in a soft rear tyre lasting the whole race.I aslo dont think he "squares it of in the normal sense,he gets on the gas miles earlier than anyone else

It would be interesting to see the difference in Stoner & Lorenzo's tires at the end of a race. I bet Stoner has more rubber left on the front & Lorenzo more on the rear. Classic European front loading (later braking, higher corner speed) v American (early on the gas, faster exit)) rear sliding. Maybe. Only mentioned coz I'm reading about it.... :whistle:

[Drew]

It would be interesting to see the difference in Stoner & Lorenzo's tires at the end of a race. I bet Stoner has more rubber left on the front & Lorenzo more on the rear. Classic European front loading (later braking, higher corner speed) v American (early on the gas, faster exit)) rear sliding. Maybe. Only mentioned coz I'm reading about it.... :whistle:

Stoner is Australian, but you're right.

European finesse, australian brute.

[Crasherfromwayback]

European finesse, australian brute.

Mini Moto vs Dirt track

[Crasherfromwayback]

Stoner is Australian, australian brute.

Yehaaaaw!267393

[DidJit]

:lol: That's very telling!

[Crasherfromwayback]

:lol: That's very telling!

Yeah hasn't changed the style one iota

[george formby]

Stoner is Australian, but you're right.

European finesse, australian brute.

Yup, it was the flat track background I was getting at.

[Cleve]

It would be interesting to see the difference in Stoner & Lorenzo's tires at the end of a race. I bet Stoner has more rubber left on the front & Lorenzo more on the rear. Classic European front loading (later braking, higher corner speed) v American (early on the gas, faster exit)) rear sliding. Maybe. Only mentioned coz I'm reading about it.... :whistle:

Lorenzo brakes earlier not later than the others as well.