Tales from the Emporium

[Woodman]

Is there no room for a mono shock?

[Padmei]

Might be now that half the stuff from the shed is outside in the rain.

[dino3310]

looking good Fran, i can see why ya wanna go riding

[NordieBoy]

Is there no room for a mono shock?

Possibly but I won't know until I see how much room there is betwix the carb collector and the airbox.

I think it's going to be twin shock though.

[marks]

this is what it will sound like when its done

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[marks]

this is what it will sound like when its done

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[NordieBoy]

this is what it will sound like when its done

Aaaaaahhhhhh...

No.

I'm hoping for more like this...

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[cooneyr]

Starting to look like your XR250 but with a bit more motor. Keep up the good work!

[marks]

Aaaaaahhhhhh...

No.

I'm hoping for more like this...


pussy

every four cylinder adventure bike needs to run 98% nitro to give it a bit of a bark

alternatively you could add a couple of cylinders

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[NordieBoy]

alternatively you could add a couple of cylinders

It's 3 cylinders more than necessary as it is!

Part of me wants too pull the cylinder head off just to have a look at the valves :D

19mm inlet and 17mm exhaust valves...
Sooo tiny and cute!

You'd need an endoscope to do any porting.

I pulled the cap off the #1 carb and the diaphragm was in good nick but under the diaphragm were some 1mm or so sized bits of dirt sitting on top of a jet.
Popped another cap off and no dirt there.

Bidding on a pair of coils/spark leads and a complete airbox/collector/filter frame at the moment.

Oh, also noticed the engine number has been removed with a chisel :(

[bart]

alternatively you could add a couple of cylinders


yeeehaaaa

Haahaahaa. Had to play that back a few times. :yes:

[Eddieb]

Have a gander at this.

It's a GS build thread but about 2/3's down the first page he goes over different ideas for mounting a non standard front end and how to deal with the different bearing sizes.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=556786

[GPS MAN]

Is this battle of the You Tube vid's?????

And the Winner is>>>>>>>>>

[NordieBoy]

Have a gander at this.

It's a GS build thread but about 2/3's down the first page he goes over different ideas for mounting a non standard front end and how to deal with the different bearing sizes.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=556786

The catch is that he has skill.

[NordieBoy]

It's looking like it'll have a rake of 27 deg and trail of around 100mm or so.

[NordieBoy]

Right...

Forks...



The KX125 stem is 30mm at the bottom bearing and 25mm at the top.
The top bearing surface needs lowering by 5mm or so and it'd fit perfectly.

The DR650 stem is 30mm at the bottom and 30mm at the top.

The KX bearing will fit on the DR stem for the bottom
They can't find me a bearing to fit the DR stem in the top

The DR and KX wheels both use the same axle diameter so with some fiddling the DR wheel would work with the KX forks.

The KX sliders are 39mm.
The DR sliders are 43mm.

To use the DR stem it'd need the top bearing surface machined down to 25mm and the top clamp bit down to about 20mm.
Catch is, it's hollow.

Anyone pressed out a DR stem or know how they're fitted?
Then I could go KX stem in DR clamps?

If I machine the DR stem I can sell the KX front end complete and it pays for the machining.


Time to get drunk...

[JATZ]

this any help ?

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11495932&postcount=5071

[cooneyr]

Since the DR's stem is hollow and I take it you mean it can't be machined down enough and the KX stem needs machining anyway, get a stem machined up from scratch. DR forks and brake going to be better so sell the KX to pay for the new stem.

The DR stem must be able to be pressed out.

[NordieBoy]

Since the DR's stem is hollow and I take it you mean it can't be machined down enough and the KX stem needs machining anyway, get a stem machined up from scratch. DR forks and brake going to be better so sell the KX to pay for the new stem.

The DR stem must be able to be pressed out.

The KX stem needs about 30s of machining to be all good. Just extend a bearing surface another 10mm instead of starting to curve slightly as the shaft tapers out from 25-30mm.

We tried 2,000kpa on the stem without movement.

[JATZ]

Got a 20 tonne press @ work if ya need it. And acetylene if the press doesn't work :D

[NordieBoy]

The KX stem is in the DR bottom clamp.

The bottom of the KX stem was a fraction of a gnats whisker smaller than the DR one so is held in by the spring clip and the bearing.

Sweet :D

[NordieBoy]

Coils/spark leads/caps and carb collector and airbox arrived today :D

Also looks like the GSX400S twin uses the same engine bolts/mounts.

[cooneyr]

More more!!!

[Eddieb]

Photos!&nbsp;

[NordieBoy]

Airbox and collector.
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/GSX400F/20100611%20Carbing/slides/20100611-204802.jpg

The carbs have to be removed to put the airbox/collector in!
The carbs themselves were a bit dirty/stiff/gummed up as expected.

The intakes have a bit of crud and could do with a bit of dremel sanding drum loving.
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/GSX400F/20100611%20Carbing/slides/20100611-204821.jpg
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/GSX400F/20100611%20Carbing/slides/20100611-204846.jpg

[NordieBoy]

Butterflies are a bit gummed up. The throttle didn't even move...
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/GSX400F/20100611%20Carbing/slides/20100612-144744.jpg

Slides are a bit sticky. But all the diaphrams are in good nick..
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/GSX400F/20100611%20Carbing/slides/20100612-144807.jpg

Dunk it in CRC and open 'em up...
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/GSX400F/20100611%20Carbing/slides/20100612-185219.jpg

Float bowel is pretty good. looks like they just need a wipe with a rag and they'll be fine...
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/GSX400F/20100611%20Carbing/slides/20100612-185245.jpg

Not a lot visually wrong here...
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/GSX400F/20100611%20Carbing/slides/20100612-185302.jpg

Put them back together with a good CRC spraying and the slides move freely and the throttle opens with little effort and closes under it's spring tension.
Will need to check all the o-rings and jets but it looks to be in bloody good condition given it's history...

[NordieBoy]

Makes the engine look a bit bigger too...
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/GSX400F/20100611%20Carbing/slides/20100612-190233.jpg

[tri boy]

Bit of a tip for ya Fran. Tighten the airbox to the carbs first, then push the carb/box assy into the head manifolds. Old rubber is a bitch for slippin off. Said the preist to the vica.

[NordieBoy]

Tracked down a CDI in Oz...
$A1114.00 plus postage

No thanks.

[Willdat?]

Tracked down a CDI in Oz...
$A1114.00 plus postage

No thanks.

Have you tried googling just the part number? That's how I got my CDI for NZ$270 landed (from the Netherlands) vs. 1k plus from Suzuki...

[Eddieb]

ThreadJack

Nordie, seen this? http://www.geographx.co.nz/downloads.html

[NordieBoy]

GPS's and maps are covered in here too.
It's be difficult to threadjack this thread :D

"Geographx will not accept any liability for any inaccuracies or omissions, now will we give any undertaking to maintain the datasets below."

So will they or won't they?

:D

[Eddieb]

GPS's and maps are covered in here too.
It's be difficult to threadjack this thread :D

"Geographx will not accept any liability for any inaccuracies or omissions, now will we give any undertaking to maintain the datasets below."

So will they or won't they?

:D

I suspect thats supposed to be 'Nor will we....'

I have a Colorado which will display 3D DEM data on the gps, but no one makes maps with it as the data appears to be hard to get. I wonder if that data is suitable.

[Padmei]

Maybe a stator in here
http://www.mysterywarehouse.com/

[NordieBoy]

Went to do the air filter tonight as it's been a bit boggy off the bottom end for a little while and the filters clean dammit.

May be time to look inside the carb again.
Last time was 34,000km ago - 25/11/2008.

It's been running sweetly since then.

[Eddieb]

Any updates on the mega 400?

[NordieBoy]

Got some guys looking for more electrics and a seat.

Got to get hold of someone in Nelson who had one as a beater bike a few years ago and may still have it.

[cooneyr]

Went to do the air filter tonight as it's been a bit boggy off the bottom end for a little while and the filters clean dammit.

May be time to look inside the carb again.
Last time was 34,000km ago - 25/11/2008.

It's been running sweetly since then.

Stop skiting about the km's you get to do. I've done a whole 6k km in a year!!! No bloody time now days. :(

[NordieBoy]

I feel so unclean!

I had to use some (shudder) KLR fuel line off Woodman's bike to fix my precious DR after a branch snapped the back off my fuel filter.

I suppose my bike is going to be heavier in the steering and slower now :(
At least it evens out the DR650 footpegs Woody is using to make his bike lighter and faster.

[Woodman]

It always amazes me that in a group someone will always have the bit you need to get going again.

Has the DR rejected it yet?

[NordieBoy]

It was vibrating and running hot on the way home but seems to have setteled down now.

[pete376403]

That will be the KLR goodness spreading throughout the engine.

[JATZ]

That will be the KLR goodness spreading throughout the engine.

Yeah, carefull Nordie
Before ya know it it'll be using oil too :lol: :Pokey:

[Padmei]

Yeah, carefull Nordie
Before ya know it it'll be using oil too :lol: :Pokey:

Hmmmmm ...an oil burner or 3 dead bikes - it's a toss up really:Pokey::p

[JATZ]

Hmmmmm ...an oil burner or 3 dead bikes - it's a toss up really:Pokey::p

bastard :bleh:

[NordieBoy]

New (old) pipe arrived for the DR400F.

Shouldn't have a problem with being too quiet :scooter:

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/GSX400F/slides/20100803-103726.jpg

Weighs 3/4 of fcuk all.

[NordieBoy]

The 650 is now officially FCR'd up.


:Punk::scooter::2guns::shifty::yes::sunny:

[dino3310]

photo:wait:

[NordieBoy]

Oh OK then...
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/photos/Walkabout/20060821/slides/20060821-165540.jpg

[dino3310]

The 650 is now officially FCR'd up.


:Punk::scooter::2guns::shifty::yes::sunny:



:rofl: i ment this

[Eddieb]

The 650 is now officially FCR'd up.


:Punk::scooter::2guns::shifty::yes::sunny:

And the verdict is?

[NordieBoy]

And the verdict is?

Normal use it dosn't feel much different.
But...

When you crack open the throttle over a bump or such there it feels like the air/fuel mix is connected straight to the back wheel.

Over one bump I normally give it a little gas and pop the front a couple of cm up (cause I'm a woose) but this time it felt the same through the wrist and engine noise wise but it came up significantly higher.
The front wheel cleared puddles much more easily.

I think it's suited to my trials/tractoring riding style nicely. No extra power but the way it's delivered is like night and day. No fluffyness off the bottom, just a good strong pull.

Unfortunately I think there's an air leak somewhere (manifold?) as it dosn't want to return to an idle consistently and it may be popping on decel into one corner and the next it's pushing like a bugger at 2200rpm.
Not a nice feel.

Out with the WD-40 spray today.

[warewolf]

Yep, that was an impressive wheelie. Have to call you WheelieBoi now...

Much snappier throttle response, definitely nicer to ride in the ruff. But the idle hanging is a bit of an arse-puckering lottery on snotty downhills. One minute it 4-strokes beautifully, engine-braking gently over obstacles, next thing it's racing away on a closed throttle, so it's pick a line and go for it :shit: I remembered on occasion it had intiminators... fun playing with them by braking over big bumps/rocks and feeling them work.

[NordieBoy]

No air leaks according to Mr spray bottle.

5 turns out on the mixture screw for best revs says something is wrong though.

Once it's out those 5 turns it drops the revs off nicely which would indicate it's too lean somewhere/somehow.

[zeRax]

No air leaks according to Mr spray bottle.

5 turns out on the mixture screw for best revs says something is wrong though.

Once it's out those 5 turns it drops the revs off nicely which would indicate it's too lean somewhere/somehow.


fran the man ;D

5 turns is quite a few ;x, i noticed it was quite twitchy getting to return to idle for me for quite awhile, untill i gave it a real good testing on the adjustment screw, around 2.75 turns or 3 turns and then it would drop back to idle nicely, maybe the leak air jet?

the response from fcr's is pretty cool eh!

[NordieBoy]

Nah. The leak jet only applies when opening the throttle and there's absofcukinlutly no problem there :Punk:

The rest of the jets look to be the ones I should be running.

Something is making it too lean and I think dragging it around on it's face on the back of my bike for the day after picking it up the float may have been shaking around a bit much in the empty bowl.

[NordieBoy]

You let someone else ride your bike and what happens?

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/slides/20100815-114415-0001.JPG

Dead wheel bearing. All the magic rust was let out.

[NordieBoy]

:rofl: i ment this

Oh, the carb!
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20100813%20Keihin%20FCR39MX/slides/20100813-152927.jpg

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20100813%20Keihin%20FCR39MX/slides/20100813-163450.jpg

[dino3310]

:drool::headbang::headbang:
looks hot bro

[warewolf]

You let someone else ride your bike and what happens?

Dead wheel bearing. All the magic rust was let out.That only happened in sympathy, because it got jealous of you riding someone else's bike with luvverly bearings less than 24 hours old.

[zeRax]

u sure got onto putting it in quick ;D gj ;)!!!

[NordieBoy]

There was a slight air gap at the manifold. The bit of the clamp that overlaps when you do it up was bent up and meant that it wasn't doing up much at all.

Of course I only found this after I'd raised the float level a mm :(
Being a bit richer it drops the revs off much better.

Another issue is the TPS touches the side if the IMS tank and if you twist it slightly the accelerator pump/leak jet housing touches the rubber cap of the starter power lead :D

But by god does it pull from 4000rpm though :woohoo:

[Padmei]

check your emails bro

[NordieBoy]

Checking but slowly.

Playing with the new iPad :D

[Padmei]

You bloody Geek.

Who would have bought an ipad & sold it to Cash converters so soon?

[NordieBoy]

Ha ha ha.

Watch it or I'll set Jenni on you.

It was straight from Apple to me.

Happy birthday toooooooo meeeeeeee!!!

[NordieBoy]

Right. Removed the TPS and slapped a bit of tape over the hole.
Now it doesn't touch the tank or starter lead.

I'm thinking the tank was pushing/rotating the carb slightly and opening up the air gap.

If you pushed the tank with your right leg it probably would have worked fine :D

[warewolf]

Do you dress to the left or the right? :blink:

[NordieBoy]

By pushing the carb a bit to the right I mean the tank was offset about 2cm to the left before bolting it up.

Before sitting on the bike...

Naked.

[Box'a'bits]

Oh Pleeease...:sick::sick::sick: There's some mental images I didn't need to deal with this lunchtime....

[NordieBoy]

The bike was naked. No fairings at all.










I was wearing socks.

[Monstaman]

I was wearing socks.

...that was lucky! :yes:

[NordieBoy]

Oh damn.

I got some resin/cloth exhaust wrap to permanently bodge the hole in the DR mid-pipe today.

Clean the pipe, wrap it up and then get it hot and cure the resin.

Only one problem.

It's not just a hole anymore...

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20100820%20Mid-Pipe%20madness/slides/20100820-181033.jpg

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20100820%20Mid-Pipe%20madness/slides/20100820-181054.jpg

There's a 25mm contiguous bit in the back that's holding it together...

[NordieBoy]

Eeeny meeny miney moe...

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20100821%20Exhausting%20stuff/slides/20100821-094533.jpg

The stocker does not work well with the FCR without re-jetting.
The GSXR mid-pipe has issues.
The Supertrapp is bolted together like Frankenstein's monster but works.

The Supertrapp also moves the powerband up 500rpm.
Now it pulls smoothly from 4500rpm.

[thepom]

...Supertrap ... :innocent:p.....

[Oscar]

Don't forget - loud pipes save lives:shifty:

[topo]

Nordie, wwant me to bring the welder in tomorrow morning? should be able to sort the mid-pipe out. what diameter is it?

[NordieBoy]

Nordie, wwant me to bring the welder in tomorrow morning? should be able to sort the mid-pipe out. what diameter is it?

She's right.
Lester is going to have a go next week.

It's 0.5mm stainless and originally broke at his weld so he can fix it :D

[topo]

so my 5mm steam pipe and pops old arc welder not good enough for ya eh......:p



should i bring that 1098 muffler in anyway jst in case:whistle:

[NordieBoy]

Well, while the side cover and exhaust were off I had to offer up that carbon can just to see...

My ears started bleeding just looking at it.

Also did the first full tank with the FCR and it got 19.5km/l.
Normal with the BST is 18.5km/l.

Very good considering I'm not babying it at all.

[rogerh]

I found the same when I fitted an FCR to my 640E. Uses fuel more efficiently. Uses less pretty much all round except when absolutely hammering it. And by hammering I mean steady high revs and on and off the gas. More than I can sustain at my level of fitness and skill.

Heaps more fun to ride, and much more forgiving off road in the knarly stuff. I don't keep good records, but I suspect it is harder on tyres and chains maybe. And on the 640 it was pretty heavy in that area even with the BST.

[NordieBoy]

The Supertrapp is surprisingly good :D

It really feels and sounds like a proper dirt bike and so you treat it as one.

And it responds like one.

:Punk:

[Padmei]

The end cap needs to be turned up the other way

[NordieBoy]

So when it rains it makes a cool gurgling sound :D

[NordieBoy]

I have just found how to change the annoying ABCD... keyboard on some of the Nuvi's to a "proper" QWERTY... one.

Works really well on the Nuvi 500 even if the keys become a bit smaller.

[Woodman]

I have just found how to change the annoying ABCD... keyboard on some of the Nuvi's to a "proper" QWERTY... one.

Works really well on the Nuvi 500 even if the keys become a bit smaller.

Whats a NUVI ??
Should I know ?

[NordieBoy]

Whats a NUVI ??
Should I know ?

It's a digital, satellite based, location aware version of a rollbook.

[Woodman]

It's a digital, satellite based, location aware version of a rollbook.

A gps then?

I still have your rollbook btw. have brought it to a few rides but always seem to forget to give it back..

[NordieBoy]

My GSXR600 pipe on an FCR jetted for a GSXR1000 can really started to pull from 4500rpm.
When I put on my old Supertrapp IDS race core with 10 discs in, it liked pulling from 5000rpm.

I went down to 8 discs today and went for a ride.
Back to torquing from 4k5 again.

Seems like the 600 can is actually quite restrictive but the hole wouldn't have helped any.

I'd like to try a 1000 can just to see where it torques from and see how many discs to match it.

[NordieBoy]

Finally fixed the tight joiner link on the expensive chain. The pins needed pushing just a little further through the side plate.

The drive feels a lot smoother through the foot pegs now.

[Padmei]

Whats happening with the GSXXR

[NordieBoy]

Waiting for bits.......

[zeRax]

My GSXR600 pipe on an FCR jetted for a GSXR1000 can really started to pull from 4500rpm.
When I put on my old Supertrapp IDS race core with 10 discs in, it liked pulling from 5000rpm.

I went down to 8 discs today and went for a ride.
Back to torquing from 4k5 again.

Seems like the 600 can is actually quite restrictive but the hole wouldn't have helped any.

I'd like to try a 1000 can just to see where it torques from and see how many discs to match it.


heya
you can come grab 1000 setup when you want if u wanna compare and play with super trappio , i havent sold it~

[NordieBoy]

5am?

Geared the DR down to a 15t front to see what would happen today. It was too low before but as the bike now likes running a little higher in the revs I thought I'd give it a go.

Quite nice. Yet to try it in a 100 zone. But in 50 and 70's it is sweet.

That's the equivalent of the stock rear with about a 13t front.

I ran 14/44 for Big River and the NIIOTS and it was great everywhere except the open road with the BST.
15/46 is slightly higher.

I really like the ratio choices the 46 rear gives.

14/46 is great in the hills.

:Punk:


16/46 = 15/43

[dino3310]

is that the formular: 3 on the rear is = to 1 on the front

[NordieBoy]

is that the formular: 3 on the rear is = to 1 on the front

About 3ish...

[Woodman]

About 3ish...

PI mmmmmm pies

[NordieBoy]

Looks like the SuperTrapp IDS with 10 discs at 1500rpm is about 92dB.
The GSXR600 pipe was 85dB.

[NordieBoy]

Looks like I slit a fork boot t'other weekend so finally got around to putting some Seal Savers on.

It's nice to know I've done the ecologically correct thing.

Only problem is that my speedo cable ran inside the fork boot.
To get it to work properly now it needs to run inside the brake line spiral wrap right up to the master cylinder banjo and then to the speedo.

Of course the cable is in no way long enough...

Back to using the GPS as the speedo for a while.

Also took the chance to re-do the fork oil that's been in since I installed the Intiminators back in April last year.
One leg may have had an air gap of only 80mm compared to the 160mm it should have been.

The front end feels much more betterer now.

[Squiggles]

Now road legal (http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=321928530) :gob:

[NordieBoy]

If that can get certed then the DR400F should have no problems.

A high front guard would suit that one better IMHO. There's too much of a gap between the fairing and the wheel otherwise.

[JATZ]

Here's another to get you inspired

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp201/ztaj/B3-80GgWkKGrHqYOKiIEytZNKohBMoL12URNg_12.jpg

[NordieBoy]

I like the headlight, tank, forks and brake disc...

[cooneyr]

If that can get certed then the DR400F should have no problems.

Speaking of which where is this at?

[NordieBoy]

Trying to source some electrics and engine mounts. Once the engine mounts are done I can look at doing something with the swingarm and chain alignment.

If the chainline is close then I can maybe just offset the engine slightly as I don't want to modify the rear wheel/spacers at all so I can swap wheels between it and the DR.

Then the rear suspension...

Then the electrics...
Mount the tank 5cm back so I've got some steering lock.

Stock headers should be OK. Restrictive but OK.
Then a 2 into 1 that goes up behind the airbox through the swingarm where the monoshock would go and out behind the right shock.

Then a seat, rear guard, side covers...
Then get the electrics hooked up and see if it actually goes.

But first I need to talk to someone at the testing station about what I need to supply to get a VIN...

[cooneyr]

You should have that all sorted tomorrow then ;)

[NordieBoy]

But they won't let me through the VIN with everything hotglued into place.

Welding is overrated.

[warewolf]

But first I need to talk to someone at the testing station about what I need to supply to get a VIN...Use the one from your spare DR650.

Who's ever gonna know?

[NordieBoy]

Just spent half an hour cleaning dust spots of the dSLR sensor.

Camera on...
Take photo...
Pop card...
Card into computer...
Open photo...
Check for dust spots...
Card back in camera...
Camera to sensor clean mode...
Pop lens off camera...
Pop top off lens-pen...
Remember the sensor is upside down and back to front compared to the photo on the screen when you clean the dust off...
Camera off...
Top back onto lens-pen...
Lens back on...
Rinse and repeat about 15 times...

Looks like I got them all! :woohoo:

[NordieBoy]

Recently mocked up the low guard to see what it looked like and what would be involved in mounting it...
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20100929%20Lowguard%20test/slides/20100929-203305.jpg

[NordieBoy]

Re-routed the front brake line yesterday so it wasn't snaking up over the dash getting in the way.

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20101016%20Braking%20things/slides/20101016-154659.jpg

The cockpit is much tidier now :confused:
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20101016%20Braking%20things/slides/20101016-154711.jpg

Of course after using $15 of DOT4 to bleed the brakes I see I should have run it inside the lower clamp/forkleg bit...

I'll do something about that when I do the steering bearings.

Just need to find a little guide to keep the line in beside the guard.

Of course I could get away with a 30cm shorter line now...

[Squiggles]

Is the cable the same length as the stock one?

[NordieBoy]

Is the cable the same length as the stock one?

Ive had the braided line on there since May 2007 and it is the same length as the stocker.
It's been on there since about the day after I was at the bike shop and had a look at CooneyR's bike after he broke his neck and saw they'd put a braided line on. I grabbed the lever, squeezed it and went straight in and ordered one.

[NordieBoy]

Just mounted up a ToolTube to the DR.

If it lasts a few rides without issues I'll put some tools in it...

Pics to come...

[dino3310]

Where ya get the screen from Fran, is it one of those universal ones. I was looking at one simular at some traffic lights it was mounted of the handle bars... looked quite simple, would be ideal for some of our longer trips, the last stint back from national park had me totally knackerd (i hate road kms on a pig)

[NordieBoy]

Yep, standard Givi screen for handlebar mount and round headlight.
Of course I've modified the shape completely and mounted it off the headlight mounts but otherwise it's completely stock :yes:

[dino3310]

Sweet mate, i got my eye on a Ricky stator and a Baja round light so the screen would complement it well. might just get the screen anyway should be able to make the square light work.

[Crim]

Just mounted up a ToolTube to the DR.

If it lasts a few rides without issues I'll put some tools in it...

Pics to come...

Looking forward to seeing this one - am looking at something along those lines to mount tools low (and permanent) on the KLR so I can assist DR riders when required

[NordieBoy]

This is MK I...

Thin hand cut strapping over MTB tube strips.
221896

Enough length for Buzetti 15" tyre levers and a full size 24mm spanner.
221895

Not glued together at the moment.
221894

221893 221897 221898

[Woodman]

That looks good, was jerry rigging a similar thing up on the klr recently using an old supertrapp body. Should work and it made it look like it had twin pipes. Ok I just wanted the twin pipe look and a tool tube was the only way i could have got away with bolting another muffler to it.:facepalm:
I dunno about those klr tubes laying across the front frame rails, they look way too vulnerable to me.

[Crim]

Not glued together at the moment.


Looking good - how are you thinking of keeping the cap on and are you looking at a lockable option - I was thinking a small lock through some holes to achieve both needs but hadn't quite got my head around a set up that wouldn't be too "rattly"

[thepom]

What front tire you got on there? looks like an e-07 onthe back.....is that gnarly enough for trail use?..

[NordieBoy]

That looks good, was jerry rigging a similar thing up on the klr recently using an old supertrapp body. Should work and it made it look like it had twin pipes. Ok I just wanted the twin pipe look and a tool tube was the only way i could have got away with bolting another muffler to it.:facepalm:
I dunno about those klr tubes laying across the front frame rails, they look way too vulnerable to me.

You're just a bling whore really.

[NordieBoy]

Looking good - how are you thinking of keeping the cap on and are you looking at a lockable option - I was thinking a small lock through some holes to achieve both needs but hadn't quite got my head around a set up that wouldn't be too "rattly"

Solved but non-locking...

[NordieBoy]

What front tire you got on there? looks like an e-07 onthe back.....is that gnarly enough for trail use?..

E07 rear, Shinko 705 front.

I would be happy doing the summers trail riding with another 705 on the rear. The E07 is overkill.

[NordieBoy]

Bit of 21" tube stretched over one end...
221924

And a patented retainer on t'other end...
221923

I've also made a little mudguard for the back to see if it'll reduce the crap going up my back...

[warewolf]

Just need to find a little guide to keep the line in beside the guard.Just bend one up out of a piece of coathanger.

[dino3310]

Cool Nordie looking good,
i was looking at some of that rectangled shape spouting but cant get a rectangle end caps... any ideas

[NordieBoy]

Cool Nordie looking good,
i was looking at some of that rectangled shape spouting but cant get a rectangle end caps... any ideas

They'd be a bugger to screw on...

:shutup::facepalm:

[NordieBoy]

MK I
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20101024%20Rear%20Guard/slides/20101024-121646.jpg

MK II
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20101024%20Rear%20Guard/slides/20101024-132428.jpg

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20101024%20Rear%20Guard/slides/20101024-132514.jpg

http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20101024%20Rear%20Guard/slides/20101024-132524.jpg

[NordieBoy]

Result! :woohoo:
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/Trips/20101024%20Maungatapu/slides/20101024-171315.jpg

A bit of clay shit on one side of the back of my jacket but nothing at all up the middle or on the top of the bike.
Normally I'd need to wipe the number plate down to read the letters/numbers.

The ToolTube held up well too.
http://www.photostorage.nelson.geek.nz/sports/motorsport/mybikes/Trips/20101024%20Maungatapu/slides/20101024-171335.jpg

A circle of dense foam at the end (possibly both ends) to stop anything hitting the plastic and that's about all I'd change.

[NordieBoy]

Found out the reason the bike didn't like returning to idle...
The throttle pull cable was so bound up the inner pulled out when I pulled the cable.

This cable set was the better of the 2 I had :facepalm:

The old set is getting a bit frayed and was a bit sticky so I worked some brake clean down it. Hell that made a difference!

The carb clamp at the manifold isn't in the best shape either.
The best shape would be round...

[NordieBoy]

It's got a much better idle now and I also adjusted the accelerator pump timing so it just missed the slide which meant winding the screw almost all the way out.
The squirt was happening much too late before.

Still going to order some new cables though...

[Woodman]

Is the clarence thing happening this weekend?? or have I got my eyes crossed.?


Edit, Posted thgis in the wrong thread.

[NordieBoy]

Is the clarence thing happening this weekend?? or have I got my eyes crossed.?


Edit, Posted thgis in the wrong thread.

Hahahahahahaha...

Clarence, eyes crossed :killingme

[Padmei]

Hahahahahahaha...

Clarence, eyes crossed :killingme

Teheheeheheheheheh

Daktari!!!

[JATZ]

Teheheeheheheheheh

Daktari!!!

:facepalm:

[marks]

Hahahahahahaha...

Clarence, eyes crossed :killingme

trust Woody to get the lions share of what he wanted to say all cocked up

[NordieBoy]

Right.

Loosened up the triple clamp and greased the steering bearings t'other day.
The notcheyness was gone!

For a day.

At least I know there's grease in there.
I'll replace the bearings when I get a shorter brake line.

Also it's going to be $246au + gst for a refurbished gps as they don't repair them here.
Not too bad but I'd have liked to just replace the touch screen.

[NordieBoy]

Hey Padmei.

How much oil did you put in your forks with the Intiminators?

I put in the stock 160mm from the top with the suspension fully compressed this time and there's seems to be more brake dive.
Although it's only meant to control progressiveness at full travel?

I measured the old oil and it was about 130mm.
Racetech also recommend 130mm.

[warewolf]

Although it's only meant to control progressiveness at full travel?Has most effect at full compression... starts to have an effect from mid-stroke and ramps up to full stroke. 30mm is a big change.

[Padmei]

Hey Padmei.

How much oil did you put in your forks with the Intiminators?

I put in the stock 160mm from the top with the suspension fully compressed this time and there's seems to be more brake dive.
Although it's only meant to control progressiveness at full travel?

I measured the old oil and it was about 130mm.
Racetech also recommend 130mm.

I seem to remember 185 or 165mm from top - whatever the instructions & web thing said. I did put in the correct amount as I triple checked it. I'm not sure if I compressed the forks tho but had springs & everything in. Actually I'm not sure I'll go & check.

[NordieBoy]

I seem to remember 185 or 165mm from top - whatever the instructions & web thing said. I did put in the correct amount as I triple checked it. I'm not sure if I compressed the forks tho but had springs & everything in. Actually I'm not sure I'll go & check.

Correct amount from the KLR manual or from the Intiminator manual?

[Oscar]

Correct amount from the KLR manual or from the Intiminator manual?

Do KLR's have telescopic forks?:shit:

[NordieBoy]

Do KLR's have telescopic forks?:shit:

Ones painted in classic Yammy colours do.

[warewolf]

I'm not sure if I compressed the forks tho but had springs & everything in.Normally it is forks compressed, without springs.

[NordieBoy]

Ordered new clutch (OEM) and throttle (Motion Pro) cables from Procycle.
They sent them on Tuesday last week.
They arrived on Saturday :gob:


I think this is the first time I've ever had a bike with a new clutch cable. It certainly does make a difference.

Need a carb manifold hose clamp before I do the throttle cables though.
Suzuki want $35 for one :angry:

[NordieBoy]

Installed my new Motion Pro throttle cables tonight :yes:

Removed them and re-installed the old cables just for fun :facepalm:

They're about 5mm longer in the cable inner on the pull side than the OEM.

With the OEM cables the pull outer is longer and with the MP the push is longer...

The inners both need to be shortened about 10mm to be any good with the FCR.

The difference with the FCR is the cables mount up pointing forward instead of vertical which means same length cable outers would be ideal.

They may work on a stock carb but not the FCR :(

I went into City Motorcycles and they had a mint DR650 OEM manifold clamp on a shelf in Lesters work area.

It was on the DR650 head I dropped off for him to look at for the big valve conversion :innocent:

Wondering where it got to. I knew I had one...

[bart]

Ordered new clutch (OEM) and throttle (Motion Pro) cables from Procycle.
They sent them on Tuesday last week.
They arrived on Saturday :gob:


I think this is the first time I've ever had a bike with a new clutch cable. It certainly does make a difference.


My DR shit the clutch cable after 12000km. Took 3 weeks to get a new one. :facepalm:

It's not much fun breaking a clutch cable 80km from home. Becomes very interesting trying to take off from a standing start.

[NordieBoy]

The old clutch cable still works - 80,000km.

The new one just works better :yes:

[NordieBoy]

New boots!

Current Status:
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My first pair of Alpinestars :love:

[NordieBoy]

They're here and they're not Gay White Stormtroopers!

[Woodman]

They're here!

Cool, now you gotta go and do a heap of river crossings to soften them up.

[Padmei]

They're here and they're not Gay White Stormtroopers!

Man you must have read my mind.
I was just about to post "I hope they're white, I hope they're white"
Damn

Wait!!! I've got a new one...

Will they work with carving Skis too?


Oh hahahahhahhhahahhahhhaaha:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

Gonna go work on my welding tan....

[NordieBoy]

Alpinestars Tech 2's.

<img src=http://www.dirtbikebitz.com/images/products/boots/alpinestars-tech-2-boots-blk.jpg>

They're as solid as a solid thing made entirely of solid.

[marks]

Alpinestars Tech 2's.

They're as solid as a solid thing made entirely of solid.

except that they are missing the top third.....

[NordieBoy]

except that they are missing the top third.....

That's why they're cheap.

[Woodman]

Am interestd in those shorty boots. been wondering for a while what they are like, keep us posted .

[bart]

Nice. You could go night clubbing in those. :yes:

I went over the bars a few years ago, and struggled to walk proper for a few weeks after. Shins hit the bars. Always worn full length mx boots since. :scooter:

But hey....you've seen me ride. :facepalm: Most other people are....how can I put this....a little more cautious (except you Woodman). :shutup:

[Woodman]

One of the reasons I am keen is that the top of my full length boots often get caught under the fuel tank when standing and caused some bloody hairy moments.

Edit, Where did Dinos post that he quoted me on go?? its disapeared . weird.

[NordieBoy]

Bloody good actually.

Walking on gravel you can feel the individual stones through the soles (sounds weird, but true) yet the sole is very stiff, mx style, with a metal bar so standing and landing jumps is no problem.
The cut out in the back means whilst being stiff, you can walk in them no problems.

The sole has a good heel and a nice grippy compound. No metal toecap to gark up the floor.

They're not waterproof but some bees wax will help.

Some shin guards and you're set.

My Fly Stinger Shorties (not even broken in yet) and Stylmartin Stormys are going up for sale.

Keeping the Gaerne Aquatech road boots, Gaerne MX boots and Oxtar Infinity Goretex Adv boots.

Long distance or winter adventuring and I'd take the Infinities in a heartbeat - sooo comfortable, waterproof and warm.

Day to day it's the Aquatech roadies - comfortable, light and easy to get on and off and waterproof(ish).

MX - the MX boots although the ankle protection on the Tech 2's is better.

Short adventuring, trail riding or if I know I'll want to stand a lot then it'll be the Tech 2's.

Even little things like the metal buckles. I was wondering why the top one buckled down over the ankle and the front one buckled up over the top of the foot and I realised they're also impact protection for the ankle and foot :facepalm:

Off for a walk to break them/me in a bit.

Oh and $199 + postage from Torpedo7 at the moment.

[dino3310]

One of the reasons I am keen is that the top of my full length boots often get caught under the fuel tank when standing and caused some bloody hairy moments.

Edit, Where did Dinos post that he quoted me on go?? its disapeared . weird.

:blink: i deleted it, thought i would have been fast enough:facepalm:,
i got a pair of those fly shorties like nordies ones mate and they are great, just one buckle short of a full length but still long enough for safety and support:woohoo: , just a bit of a bitch on the shins till they wear in

[dino3310]

actually Fran speaking of Fly Stinger Shorties, since your selling yours have you got any straps from your old pair lying around :whistle:

[NordieBoy]

actually Fran speaking of Fly Stinger Shorties, since your selling yours have you got any straps from your old pair lying around :whistle:

The front straps are a bugger aren't they :D

[dino3310]

The front straps are a bugger aren't they :D

yip, lost mine pulling a bike out of a drain :shutup:

they a bloody short strap

[warewolf]

except that they are missing the top third.....
That's why they're cheap.33% off...

[NordieBoy]

33% off...

Yep :D

$299 down to $199


Wore them over the Dove Hill/Sunday Creek to Tap and was impressed.
Copped a bird on the top of the left boot no problem.
Wore them all day at the MX, walking the hilly track with no issues.

They've got the advantage over the Fly Stinger Shorties in the looks, protection, comfort and not garking up the floor with a metal toecap stakes.
The Stingers have a better sole but there's not much in it.

They give good tongue too. No digging into your shin at all.

[NordieBoy]

The DR got backed into at a job t'other day.

The points of impact were the very corner of the hand guard, the rear foot peg mount and the end of the SuperTrapp.
All got tiny marks.

Fell juuuust right to bend the right handguard back to 45 deg.
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20101221%20Bent%20Hand%20Guard/slides/20101221-162629-0004.jpg
These are Zeta ones that are usually very very strong but mine are non-anodised and quite soft. However it absorbed almost all the force and the bars were still perfectly straight.

Unfortunately, to get the retainers and Vibranators out, it'll require cutting the bars up with a hacksaw :facepalm:

New bars time...

Lets go higher and get rid of the spacers...
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20101222%20Fixing%20Hand%20Guard%20and%20New%20Bar s/slides/20101223-161744-0003.jpg

Have to make some new bolts...
Get the bottom one looking more like the top one...
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20101222%20Fixing%20Hand%20Guard%20and%20New%20Bar s/slides/20101223-155222-0002.jpg

Hmmm...
The bolts are about 10mm too long...

I could bung in a 10mm riser...

In the words of Mrs Doyle. Go on, go on, go on...

Chop down the old risers...
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20101222%20Fixing%20Hand%20Guard%20and%20New%20Bar s/slides/20101223-164109-0004.jpg

Spin them back to 10mm...
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20101222%20Fixing%20Hand%20Guard%20and%20New%20Bar s/slides/20101223-164501-0005.jpg

Et viola! :violin:
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20101222%20Fixing%20Hand%20Guard%20and%20New%20Bar s/slides/20101223-164703-0008.jpg

They're about 2-3cm higher than before, which you notice when seated as before was about perfect.
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20101222%20Fixing%20Hand%20Guard%20and%20New%20Bar s/slides/20101223-174250-0010.jpg

But standing...

:love:

[dino3310]

very nice Fran:yes:

[NordieBoy]

Lathes are fun.

Especially a big beast like mine.

[dino3310]

i just use a grinder with cut off wheel, thats as close as i can get to a lathe in my shed:facepalm:

[Woodman]

Yep them vibranators are an ass to get out.


Edit. Gee just imagine if you mixed some of the above words up??

[NordieBoy]

i just use a grinder with cut off wheel, thats as close as i can get to a lathe in my shed:facepalm:

I got a drop saw thingy that I can bolt my grinder into.
It's a good idea that's basically useless :love:

[NordieBoy]

Gee just imagine if you mixed some of the above words up??

No idea what you mean? :innocent:


My hand guard fixing bolty things were slightly to big for the interior diameter of the bars so I just bashed them in there a bit :facepalm:

Going to have to cut the bars and bash them through...

[NordieBoy]

The Zeta fat bars need to be drilled out a bit to get the vibranators in properly.
About 100mm in the internal of the bars closes up slightly :facepalm:

I want at least 50mm more of constant diameter.

Also the right hand guard wasn't totally successfully re-bent to spec.
Sledge hammer engineering at it's finest.

[NordieBoy]

Today I pulled the 10mm risers and the bars feel about 30mm lower :D
But still very nice for standing.

[NordieBoy]

Just went for a tootle up the Maungatapu to um... test the bars... yeah... the bars...

Found a nice short little side track that had a couple of mud holes, water ruts and everything :woohoo:

When I went to turn around I started the bike up and there was quite a rattling racket :shit:

Turned it off and the racket died down with a tinkle.

The discs in my SuperTrapp have worked loose :facepalm:

On the way back the bike was either rattling and tinkling or the last disc would block up the end and it'd be very very quiet...

It's probably going to be at the races with no discs the way it's going.

Once it's cooled down, I'm going in for a look.

[NordieBoy]

Right. It's cooled down and I can't find an imperial allen key to get at the bugger.

Man the stock pipe is heavy, but quiet :innocent:

[NordieBoy]

Oh dear, look what made it's way into the shed tonight when I wasn't looking :psst:

228811

1990 TT350

Very tidy mechanically.
No slop, just 20 years and 16,000km of use.
228814228815

Let's see whats lying around the shed shall we?
228813228812

Hmmm...

Hondaha...

[Woodman]

Oh dear, look what made it's way into the shed tonight when I wasn't looking :psst:



1990 TT350

Very tidy mechanically.
No slop, just 20 years and 16,000km of use.


Let's see whats lying around the shed shall we?


Hmmm...

Hondaha...

Explanation please

[JATZ]

Cool :niceone:

We should go for a ride on our 3fiddy's.......

you can ride yours....
MrsJatz will ride hers
And I'll ride.......

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp201/ztaj/SAM_0140.jpg

mine :eek:

[Padmei]

Bugger you guys

[NordieBoy]

Put the NADS Renthal fatbars on last night and I think they're a lot closer to the ergos I'm after.

This is the 3rd bike they've been on.
Dr650 - not quite right. Too far forward.
CT125 - very nice.
TT350 - possibly very nice.

Re-routed the front brake line as the master cylinder banjo was horizontal instead of pointing at 45 deg to get a nice arc in the brake line. Bled the brakes too. The fluid was black. Black as night. Black as Padmei's GB500.

That may make a difference...

[NordieBoy]

I have been informed the brake fluid was changed for the beach races!
So it'd just done the races and about 3 times through the Maunga and it was black!


The bike has been de-stickered in preparation for being re-stickered with some steekers from Mot.

The carbs are out and the float bowel o-ring is shot. The float needle holder o-ring is shot. Another o-ring is shot (broke in 2 when I picked it up). The vacuum and fuel joiner pipes between the carbs are shot. That's 20 years of use for ya.
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/TT350/slides/20110123-184541.jpg

The petcock has a slow leak when closed even though it had a re-build a couple of months ago.

The Trailtech Vapor is hooked up :drinkup:
6V AC, revs, oil temp all done...
Tempted to set the first temp warning light up as the warm-up light and the 2nd as the warning light.

Much tidier...
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/TT350/20110123%20Trailtech%20Vapor/slides/20110123-184338.jpg

http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/TT350/20110123%20Trailtech%20Vapor/slides/20110123-184413.jpg

http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/TT350/20110123%20Trailtech%20Vapor/slides/20110123-184403.jpg
Got to get some full length Fork Skins on there as soon as possible...

http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/TT350/20110123%20Trailtech%20Vapor/slides/20110123-184436.jpg

Total re-build cost so far is $55 for a battery and the steekers.

[NordieBoy]

Got some o-rings from various shops for the float needle jet, main needle jet and the chain o-ring replacement.
They're not the best fit but will be fuel tight.

The float bowel gasket/o-ring is coming from Oz and is the biggest purchase in the re-build so far :shit:

[NordieBoy]

They have arrived...

Not perfect but they'll do.
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/TT350/20110126%20Steekers/slides/20110126-210633.jpg

http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/TT350/20110126%20Steekers/slides/20110126-210644.jpg

If you need spare Tenere bits and aren't afraid of climbing under houses then I know a great source...
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/TT350/20110126%20Steekers/slides/20110126-210705.jpg

Be warned however. If you get caught, they may make you coffee and you could be stuck there for a while :niceone:

Trailtech Vapor speedo's don't like AC voltage all that much if you want to know your actual revs...
According to the Vapor, the redline is somewhere north of 19,000rpm...
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/TT350/20110126%20Steekers/slides/20110126-210745.jpg

http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/TT350/20110126%20Steekers/slides/20110126-210730.jpg

The tuning forks on the tank were already coming off after an hour so I helped them on their way and moved them down a bit.
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/TT350/20110126%20Steekers/slides/20110126-212619.jpg

[NordieBoy]

XT350 gaiters don't fit :(
The first bit of the concertina needs to go out not in. In means to small a diameter.

Red fork skins are next on the scavenger hunt list.

[NordieBoy]

It's got some racing history too.

Raced at the Nelson Centenary Beach Races in 2008...
230128

And again in 2011...
230127
With me, Woodman and Warewolf top left on the start line in awe of the riding skillz...

[Woodman]

With me, Woodman and Warewolf top left on the start line in awe of the riding skillz...

Actually I think I was watching the Umbrella girls.

[NordieBoy]

Actually I think I was watching the Umbrella girls.

Did they look bored or what :weird:

[NordieBoy]

Mounted the Vibranators (www.vibranator.com) tonight.

Spent 2 hours banding the alloy hand guards juuuuuust right so they'd mount up with no bending tension on any of the bolts so the Vibranators would stay nice and true down the inside of the bars.

After riding over to Mot and back and out to Wakefield yesterday I had to do something :doctor:

[JATZ]

After riding over to Mot and back and out to Wakefield yesterday I had to do something :doctor:

You could've HTFU :bleh:

You want the use of some fork gaiters while you wait for the skins..... We coming to NSN in the A.M.

[NordieBoy]

You could've HTFU :bleh:

You want the use of some fork gaiters while you wait for the skins..... We coming to NSN in the A.M.

Nah. I'm waiting to see what forks I'm going to end up using.

41mm TT damper-rod original's.
46mm YZ USD's (adjustable compression and rebound).
41mm KX USD's (adjustable at the bottom only - comp or re?).
43mm KDX RWU's (Shane gets the 46mm USD's for the KDX and the KDX forks already have the right springs and gold valves).

The KDX forks will let me keep in the spirit of Classic MX too.


Just read an article on doing up old TT350's.
Very informative.

[Woodman]

Nah. I'm waiting to see what forks I'm going to end up using.

41mm TT damper-rod original's.
46mm YZ USD's (adjustable compression and rebound).
41mm KX USD's (adjustable at the bottom only - comp or re?).
43mm KDX RWU's (Shane gets the 46mm USD's for the KDX and the KDX forks already have the right springs and gold valves).

The KDX forks will let me keep in the spirit of Classic MX too.


Just read an article on doing up old TT350's.
Very informative.

where is this stash uf USD forks ??

[NordieBoy]

where is this stash uf USD forks ??

Horizontal storage system.

"On the floor".


Had the 41mm USD's (inc caliper, wheel, spacers and axle) for 4 years or so but not beefy enough for bigger bikes.

What size does the KLR have?

Got the 2003 46mm USD's the other day. Got a YZ front wheel to match coming next week.

They'd go well on the DR but the current setup is pretty damn adventure perfect and with the smaller bike for playing with the DR has probably done it's last 3-hour cross country :lol:

Actually, apart from some panniers and the rear shock, the whole DR is pretty much adventure perfect seen through these rose coloured glasses.

[Padmei]

Can you find me a yz front end wirth wheel, brakes & forks please. You must be very good on trademe as Ican't seem to find anything.

[Woodman]

Horizontal storage system.

"On the floor".


Had the 41mm USD's (inc caliper, wheel, spacers and axle) for 4 years or so but not beefy enough for bigger bikes.

What size does the KLR have?

Got the 2003 46mm USD's the other day. Got a YZ front wheel to match coming next week.

They'd go well on the DR but the current setup is pretty damn adventure perfect and with the smaller bike for playing with the DR has probably done it's last 3-hour cross country :lol:

Actually, apart from some panniers and the rear shock, the whole DR is pretty much adventure perfect seen through these rose coloured glasses.

My klr has a beefy 38mm whereas padmeis has a staggering 41mm.

There was a guy on the dusty with a DR with some beefy USDs installed, husqvarna ones iirc, he reckons they work brilliantly, and they look real good too.

Have been thinking over the last couple of days that it is time to start retiring the klr from the real rough stuff, or ride slower over it. The poor thing is not really up to it and it is quite nice on road trips etc, I actually really enjoyed the CHCH to Nelson ride on the seal the other day. So maybe on the lookout for something small too, or maybe something like an airhead (don't ask) and sell the klr. Sorry to hijack thread.

[Willdat?]

USDs on the Benelli!

I'm supposed to be rewiring the DR250 at the moment, but yeah...

[NordieBoy]

My klr has a beefy 38mm whereas padmeis has a staggering 41mm.

Do you want to have a look/play with the 41mm USD's to see if they'd be suitable?

[NordieBoy]

No capital "T" for this beastie.
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/TT350/slides/20110129-082209.jpg

[Woodman]

Do you want to have a look/play with the 41mm USD's to see if they'd be suitable?

yea I am keen for a looksee

[Padmei]

Have been thinking over the last couple of days that it is time to start retiring the klr from the real rough stuff, or ride slower over it. The poor thing is not really up to it and it is quite nice on road trips etc, I actually really enjoyed the CHCH to Nelson ride on the seal the other day. So maybe on the lookout for something small too, or maybe something like an airhead (don't ask) and sell the klr. Sorry to hijack thread.

As you know I'm in the same boat. On the Dusty I really enjoyed just cruising on the tar seal or gravel roads on a big bike however riding with Nordie today I realised how much of a PITA they are when the going gets tough. They do get there (as I cruised up past a 2T stuck on Hurricane hill:clap:) but do require a lot more input.

I had a ride on the TT & I think it would be quite easy to get used to the 'buzzynes' of the smaller engine. It felt tho like it had a gyroscopic effect always wanting to make it straighten up - I couldn't keep it leaned over like the big bikes. Nordie reckons it would be the tyres. I soon gpot used to it.

I feel like I've only just discovered lite bikes.:2thumbsup

[NordieBoy]

Past the 2 stroke which put you off line to the right, crossed the ruts, bounced off that big rock, wheelied over the last ditch and the guy standing with me goes "farking hell..." with incredulity and admiration in his voice :clap:

Battling through to the airstrip was fun. Knowing you're on the track but the vegetation is so dense that you can't see anything to indicate if it's still there in front of you. Gorse across the face, branches hitting the brake and clutch levers, those brown berries that squashed and made it look like you'd poo'd yourself...
:2thumbsup:2thumbsup:2thumbsup

Going down Scout Rd to the washout and back on Gonzo was fun. Better brakes and front suspension than the TT.

The TT crashes well and is light enough to pick up quickly before the camera has a chance to come out...

[NordieBoy]

Time to bodge another seat...

I want it to be about 6-7cm higher in the middle (current foam is 7cm thick there), making it almost flat and a lot firmer.

Right. Let's get this torn down...
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/TT350/slides/20110115-092436.jpg

First layer...
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/TT350/20110130%20Seating/slides/20110130-122031.jpg

Second layer...
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/TT350/20110130%20Seating/slides/20110130-123753.jpg
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/TT350/20110130%20Seating/slides/20110130-124036.jpg

Third layer - that's 15cm of foam there...
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/TT350/20110130%20Seating/slides/20110130-124601.jpg
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/TT350/20110130%20Seating/slides/20110130-124838.jpg

Trim it a little...
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/TT350/20110130%20Seating/slides/20110130-143930.jpg

Take it for a ride...
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/TT350/20110130%20Seating/slides/20110130-154948.jpg
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/TT350/20110130%20Seating/slides/20110130-155002.jpg

It's got a static seat height of about 97cm now.

Need to re-shape the sides slightly but sitting and standing are pretty good. I can move forward and back standing or seated without the seat getting in the way.

Now it's going to have a big chunk cut from the middle and a block of that dense, light blue foam mounted on the pan and the cut out bits put back around it to give a 5cm layer of softer stuff on top and sides.

That'll give it some support both to firm it up and to stop it moving side to side as it's pretty tall :D
It'll also lighten it which it really needs as that foam isn't light at all.

[NordieBoy]

Time to lighten it up...

Slice time...
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/TT350/20110130%20Seating/slides/20110131-152248.jpg

4cm centre bit...
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/TT350/20110130%20Seating/slides/20110131-152748.jpg

6cm centre bit...
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/TT350/20110130%20Seating/slides/20110131-154652.jpg

Slice and dice the bit that was removed...
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/TT350/20110130%20Seating/slides/20110131-155731.jpg
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/TT350/20110130%20Seating/slides/20110131-160746.jpg

Ta Daaaaaaa!
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/TT350/20110130%20Seating/slides/20110131-162144.jpg

Looks like it did at the start but much firmer (maybe a bit too much) and weighs about half.

[Padmei]

Nice- & a purple seat cover to finish it off?

You know if you left it banana shaped you could have used it as a hammock at nite:yes:

BTW noone uses cm it just gets confusing in the real world

[NordieBoy]

Not purple, but powder blue will do to start with...

http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/TT350/20110130%20Seating/slides/20110131-200521.jpg

The high-tech t-shirt cover will enable me to fine tune over the next few rides.

First up will probably be using a 40mm hole saw to soften up the first 30-40mm of reinforcing foam.

[Eddieb]

Nordie

You acquired and fitted an FCR-MX carb to the 650 a little while back. Did it make as much difference for you as is suggested in MX-rob's threads elsewhere?

[NordieBoy]

Nordie

You acquired and fitted an FCR-MX carb to the 650 a little while back. Did it make as much difference for you as is suggested in MX-rob's threads elsewhere?

In one word - Yes.

In more words - Smoother, stronger bottom end with quicker response and better fuel economy.

A BST equipped DR seems sluggish and lumpy down low now.

Like riding a stock suspendered DR after fitting Intiminators to your one.

Another good thing is no one(ish) has blown 3rd gear whilst running a pumper carb.
1 guy did but it was a week after installing it so doesn't count.

No-one has ever blown up a fuel injected, 725 or 780 kitted DR either...

:D

[Padmei]

Nordie

You acquired and fitted an FCR-MX carb to the 650 a little while back. Did it make as much difference for you as is suggested in MX-rob's threads elsewhere?

Fitting a couple to the 950? BTW I found your bike so much easier (nicer) to ride than the FI ones I've ridden. Speedo was a tad erratic tho:yes:

[cooneyr]

Fitting a couple to the 950? BTW I found your bike so much easier (nicer) to ride than the FI ones I've ridden. Speedo was a tad erratic tho:yes:

FCR's on a 950 has been done. God knows why - its fun trying to keep the front down and rear wheel hooked up as it is.

From my limited experiance FI 990's are bloody terrible to ride in technical/slippery terrain. Just no feel to them. There are supposdily things you can do to them - but why not just get a 950? Appart from cost this was the most signficant reason I bought a 950. I know I'm trying to sell one so might seem a little bias but I firmly believe this.

[NordieBoy]

From my limited experiance FI 990's are bloody terrible to ride in technical/slippery terrain. Just no feel to them.

Yep. The fuelling at low revs is appalling. Which is where you're going to be in technical terrain.

[NordieBoy]

Wow.
First check after fixing the carb and the mileage on the TT has gone from about 17km/L to 22km/L and the 22km/L included playing in the hills with Padmei and Gonzo...

:woohoo:

[NordieBoy]

The seat is a leeetle hard but more pushbike style rather than DR650 style.
The hard foam does compress after a while but I'm thinking that it's ready to wrap a layer of finishing foam around it and start looking for some blood red vinyl.

[Oscar]

...and start looking for some blood red vinyl.

So when yer arse starts bleeding, it doesn't show?

[NordieBoy]

So when yer arse starts bleeding, it doesn't show?

Well, yes. But it's also the OEM colour.

[Waihou Thumper]

The seat is a leeetle hard but more pushbike style rather than DR650 style.
The hard foam does compress after a while but I'm thinking that it's ready to wrap a layer of finishing foam around it and start looking for some blood red vinyl.

Nordie, I have a brand new Yamaha red vinyl seat cover if you want it mate....I got it for a XT600 that I nearly, oh so nearly bought...
It may not fit over your La z Boy chair though, but you are welcome to it....cheap! :)

[Oscar]

Well, yes. But it's also the OEM colour.

Clever, those Japs...

[NordieBoy]

Nordie, I have a brand new Yamaha red vinyl seat cover if you want it mate....I got it for a XT600 that I nearly, oh so nearly bought...
It may not fit over your La z Boy chair though, but you are welcome to it....cheap! :)


I need a bit of vinyl about 80x70cm to fit the bugger :(

[Waihou Thumper]

I need a bit of vinyl about 80x70cm to fit the bugger :(

okay....This is just a regular seat cover with Yamaha on the sides...It will never fit if that is the amount you need.

[warewolf]

41mm KX USD's (adjustable at the bottom only - comp or re?).Usually comp, especially if they are cartridge forks.

Dirt bikes often only have compression adjustment, roadies often only have rebound. Don't ask me why.

[NordieBoy]

YES! :woohoo:

My DC-DC voltage doubler has arrived.

This'll let the speedo and gps do their thing with (almost)12v goodness.

[Padmei]

FCR's on a 950 has been done. God knows why - its fun trying to keep the front down and rear wheel hooked up as it is.

From my limited experiance FI 990's are bloody terrible to ride in technical/slippery terrain. Just no feel to them. There are supposdily things you can do to them - but why not just get a 950? Appart from cost this was the most signficant reason I bought a 950. I know I'm trying to sell one so might seem a little bias but I firmly believe this.

i really really didn't like the 9x0 adventures till i rode Eddies. The power on his wasn't as awesome as I'd experienced on the SM but more usuable. The suspension tho - I'd never ridden with such nice suspension - I see what guys mean when they talk about magic carpet ride:yes:


Usually comp, especially if they are cartridge forks.

Dirt bikes often only have compression adjustment, roadies often only have rebound. Don't ask me why.

Why?


Wow.
First check after fixing the carb and the mileage on the TT has gone from about 17km/L to 22km/L and the 22km/L included playing in the hills with Padmei and Gonzo...

:woohoo:

Woodman... calling Woodman to the white fuel economy comparison phone...

[Woodman]

Woodman... calling Woodman to the white fuel economy comparison phone...

Funny you should mention fuel economy because I have been thinking about it a bit lately.

How about trying a fuel economy run like those anaraks do in their cars. Yes I know they would save more fuel if they just stayed at home but that is not the point.

Maybe we could fill up, then tootle off somewhere, then refill and compare results for bragging rights . Just another dimension to add to the awsomeness of adv riding.
The boys did one on Topgear once and it really was quite interesting and very strategic.
Your thoughts??
Sorry for off topic again Nordie.

[Eddieb]

How about trying a fuel economy run like those anaraks do in their cars. Yes I know they would save more fuel if they just stayed at home but that is not the point.

Your thoughts??
Sorry for off topic again Nordie.

How about an oil economy race Woodman? :Pokey::killingme

[JATZ]

i really really didn't like the 9x0 adventures till i rode Eddies. The power on his wasn't as awesome as I'd experienced on the SM but more usuable. The suspension tho - I'd never ridden with such nice suspension - I see what guys mean when they talk about magic carpet ride:yes:...

Yip.... it's damn nice bike to ride :yes: But when I rode it the suspension was a lot firmer, and I had no issues with the taller screen



Why?...

You beat me to it :blink:




Fuel economy run....?? Your thoughts??
Sorry for off topic again Nordie.

I could be keen to show up for this, just for a laugh as I get sweet F.A. k's/l

[Woodman]

How about an oil economy race Woodman? :Pokey::killingme

I would lose.:facepalm: Do you wanna do a deal on the r100 with a klr?

[Padmei]

I could be keen to show up for this, just for a laugh as I get sweet F.A. k's/l

I'd like to do it not for any particuklar reason just to point & laugh at you guys

[Eddieb]

I would lose.:facepalm: Do you wanna do a deal on the r100 with a klr?

Hopefully the R100 will be leaving my garage midday Saturday.

[JATZ]

I'd like to do it not for any particuklar reason just to point & laugh at you guys

Can't be any further than about 180k's though otherwise I gotta fill up .
You could bring schmitty Padders :Pokey: :bleh:

[Padmei]

Can't be any further than about 180k's though otherwise I gotta fill up .
You could bring schmitty Padders :Pokey: :bleh:

Well yes you FF I could. it may not go that far but by God the chicks it pulls:yes:

[Eddieb]

Yip.... it's damn nice bike to ride :yes: But when I rode it the suspension was a lot firmer, and I had no issues with the taller screen


I've spent a bit of time dialling in a certain amount of plushness, not spongy but just removing the edge off the action so on long trips I wasn't getting as tired.

[Spearfish]

YES! :woohoo:

My DC-DC voltage doubler has arrived.

This'll let the speedo and gps do their thing with (almost)12v goodness.

Whats this DC-DC doubler magic?


Got the old 76 XL vined and on the road last month so I'm keen to find a way to make the headlight bright enough to at least attract a moth.

[Padmei]

I've spent a bit of time dialling in a certain amount of plushness, not spongy but just removing the edge off the action so on long trips I wasn't getting as tired.

Frick - you're selling both bikes? have I got a baby for you my lil friend:scooter:

[Eddieb]

Frick - you're selling both bikes? have I got a baby for you my lil friend:scooter:

Yeah, need to look at my cash flow for a while, plus the possible redundancy process I mentioned in another thread a few months ago is kicking in now so lots of talks going on.

If anyone is interested in a 950 Adventure in 'cool as fuck' black PM me, cheaper than anything on Trade Me, new rear tyre and pads just fitted last week.

[NordieBoy]

Arrive at someones place.
Drain the tanks.
Put 2L in each.

Carry a 3-5L spare.

Head over the Maungatapu to Pelorus for coffee and jeering and back (80km).

Some will make Pelorus and part of the return journey on the 2L. Some will not.

Woodman can use as much petrol as he wants but only 2L of oil.

[NordieBoy]

Whats this DC-DC doubler magic?


Got the old 76 XL vined and on the road last month so I'm keen to find a way to make the headlight bright enough to at least attract a moth.

Ahhhh, no.
6v in, 11v out.
12v in, 23v out.
2amp max draw.

I'm just going to use it to power the instruments.

My headlight is a pathetic 35w 6v on low and a mighty 35w 6v on high.

[Spearfish]

Ahhhh, no.
6v in, 11v out.
12v in, 23v out.
2amp max draw.

I'm just going to use it to power the instruments.

My headlight is a pathetic 35w 6v on low and a mighty 35w 6v on high.

ok, cheers for that.
Back to the carrot juice then.

[Box'a'bits]

The issue with the drain & refill with 2 litres is that some bikes can't use all of the bottom of the tank.

The other more practical way is to fill them at the beginning of the ride, then again at the end. Needs to be marshalled though to make sure that the fills are all to the same level. And everyone does the same mileage (ie no short cuts)

We used to do this on an annual basis in the road club I was part of. More fun than it sounds. Creative use of drafting, engine off for downhills, etc. We also had a prize of the worst economy, which was also hotly contested.

Potentially good news (I guess) re the PD Eddie...

[Woodman]

The issue with the drain & refill with 2 litres is that some bikes can't use all of the bottom of the tank.

The other more practical way is to fill them at the beginning of the ride, then again at the end. Needs to be marshalled though to make sure that the fills are all to the same level. And everyone does the same mileage (ie no short cuts)

We used to do this on an annual basis in the road club I was part of. More fun than it sounds. Creative use of drafting, engine off for downhills, etc. We also had a prize of the worst economy, which was also hotly contested.

Potentially good news (I guess) re the PD Eddie...

Agree, 2 litres in my tank and it probarbly still won't go, thats why I suggested filling first like you say.
Of course this is a disadvantage to me with a big tank because of the extra fuel weight.

maybe we could weigh the bikes before and after?

[NordieBoy]

The issue with the drain & refill with 2 litres is that some bikes can't use all of the bottom of the tank.

That's their problem :D
Tipping the bike on it's side, blowing in the tank vent...


The other more practical way is to fill them at the beginning of the ride, then again at the end. Needs to be marshalled though to make sure that the fills are all to the same level. And everyone does the same mileage (ie no short cuts)

But then no-one would run out. Where's the fun in that?
No possible shortcuts on this route.


We used to do this on an annual basis in the road club I was part of. More fun than it sounds. Creative use of drafting, engine off for downhills, etc. We also had a prize of the worst economy, which was also hotly contested.

There's going to be brakes overheating and everything coasting down the Maungatapu with dead engines :scooter:

Once you refill, you become backup crew/camera operators for the remaining contestants.

[warewolf]

Why?'spose I asked for that. :blink:

I get that from my 2 year old... no wonder they call this KiddieBiker.

[Padmei]

'spose I asked for that. :blink:

I get that from my 2 year old... no wonder they call this KiddieBiker.

I know that you are but what am I:bleh:

[warewolf]

All sounds like good fun, while at the same time not really achieving anything... count me in! :D


There's going to be brakes overheating and everything coasting down the Maungatapu with dead engines :scooter:Why? Lower idle speed (ie, zero) gives more braking, not less. :yes:

It's the pucker factor that will be interesting, trading off momentum against hill climbing & cornering. :shit:

[warewolf]

I've spent a bit of time dialling in a certain amount of plushness, not spongy but just removing the edge off the action so on long trips I wasn't getting as tired.Which is the main idea; too many ppl set it up too stiff, me included when I first started fiddlin' wit suspension :yes:

Plus, wasn't it yours that was poked when you bought it? Jammed on the uber-stiff settings?

[NordieBoy]

Why? Lower idle speed (ie, zero) gives more braking, not less. :yes:

Not if you're in neutral :D

[warewolf]

Not if you're in neutral :DSo, don't put it in neutral!

Du-uh!

:lol:

[Willdat?]

Who's willing to use their 2L to tow me to the top? :shutup:

I can do the coasting in neutral bit down the other side :woohoo:

[warewolf]

Now there's an extra element to the challenge.

Question is: will your bike get to the bottom under its own steam?

Did I say that?! :facepalm:

[NordieBoy]

Now there's an extra element to the challenge.

Question is: will your bike get to the bottom under its own steam?

Did I say that?! :facepalm:

That may be the issue.
Here we were assuming it was petrol powered.