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888
2nd September 2011, 11:36
What did you use to cut the sprocket cover?
NordieBoy
2nd September 2011, 13:35
What did you use to cut the sprocket cover?
For the top and bottom cuts...
http://www.talktalk.co.uk/shopping/images/saw-screwfix-70x70.gif
A small coping saw for the inner bit.
The Pastor
2nd September 2011, 14:36
i used a jigsaw.
I just tired to fit 21mm circlips (broke my pliers trying lol), they do not fit. Orded 22mm and 24mm.
Will report back in about an hour as to which one is the right one :)
The Pastor
2nd September 2011, 15:40
22mm circlips fit, you need two of them.
The Pastor
3rd September 2011, 00:29
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/141627-DR650-motrad-wheels-tyres-amp-brakes?p=1130143901#post1130143901
Quasievil
3rd September 2011, 07:11
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/141627-DR650-motrad-wheels-tyres-amp-brakes?p=1130143901#post1130143901
Im going to check out a Dr650 today, If I get one I will certainly be doing the motard kit, just to keep a bit of rebel in me:yes:
The Pastor
3rd September 2011, 08:27
Im going to check out a Dr650 today, If I get one I will certainly be doing the motard kit, just to keep a bit of rebel in me:yes:
you do know a dr650 has less horsepower than my cbr250 aye
NordieBoy
3rd September 2011, 08:31
you do know a dr650 has less horsepower than my cbr250 aye
It's got less horsepower than my lawnmower.
But the torks are where the fun is...
Quasievil
3rd September 2011, 08:54
you do know a dr650 has less horsepower than my cbr250 aye
Yeah 34 hp ? going to a tad different to my R1 huh, all good tho, Im keen on adventure again and HP is to much of a requirement for me
I did have a KLR 2007 which did the job, which is still in the choice set, I did have fuelling issues with it tho which pissed me off.
will see the Dr650 and report back
Quasievil
5th September 2011, 17:26
Well I rode one from Boyds 9000 kms on the clock, it had been re jetted and had a bark buster, Grip warmers, after market bars, pack rack.
I want something I can road ride on and get into the gravel sections on, something also that two up is an option.
I rode it for half an hour, I didnt like it, I cant see myself riding it on the highways down to the south island, on the gravel im sure no worries but for long distance highway stuff in between that its a no go. it was horrible in the corners and unstable at speed 100kmph
out of the Dr and the KLR, the KLR (I had one) was without doubt a superior motorcycle overall.
I also rode a Transalp (2009 model) it was awesome, yes more refined and yes more comfy, I think that it would be competent enough for something like the molesworth however at twice the price it is an issue, but at this point it would be my pick for my requirements I think , unless I win lotto and can afford a KTM 990 or GS800 !!
NordieBoy
5th September 2011, 17:38
Old tyres?
Should be hands off the bars type stable at >100kph
Waihou Thumper
5th September 2011, 17:40
Well I rode one from Boyds 9000 kms on the clock, it had been re jetted and had a bark buster, Grip warmers, after market bars, pack rack.
I want something I can road ride on and get into the gravel sections on, something also that two up is an option.
I rode it for half an hour, I didnt like it, I cant see myself riding it on the highways down to the south island, on the gravel im sure no worries but for long distance highway stuff in between that its a no go. it was horrible in the corners and unstable at speed 100kmph
out of the Dr and the KLR, the KLR (I had one) was without doubt a superior motorcycle overall.
I also rode a Transalp (2009 model) it was awesome, yes more refined and yes more comfy, I think that it would be competent enough for something like the molesworth however at twice the price it is an issue, but at this point it would be my pick for my requirements I think , unless I win lotto and can afford a KTM 990 or GS800 !!
You had better save your pennies then, two up and riding highway etc. The DR, KLR and others of the similar size aren't very capeable for passengers. Well, having said that, if you still want to share a bed at the end of the day, that is...:) Yes, the 990 would be the bees knees. DucatiJim can testify to that two up and some :) The smaller bikes are an incentive to get OFF the highways and ride the metal and tracks....Oh yeah :)
Eddieb
5th September 2011, 18:32
There's a Motard wheel kit in the Bike Trader section: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/141627-DR650-motrad-wheels-tyres-amp-brakes?p=1130143901#post1130143901
Woodman
5th September 2011, 20:38
out of the Dr and the KLR, the KLR (I had one) was without doubt a superior motorcycle overall.
:shutup::shutup::shutup::shutup:
Quasievil
5th September 2011, 20:51
:shutup::shutup::shutup::shutup:
Go on spit it out.
I had a KLR 650 and it was awesome, just a fuelling issue pissed me off, it kept getting a vapour lock in the tank, I ended up removing the little one way breather valves in the fuel cap, it sorted it out quick, it wasnt a problem unless the bile ended up side down in which case it would have all spilled out.
Padmei
5th September 2011, 20:55
Go on spit it out.
I had a KLR 650 and it was awesome, just a fuelling issue pissed me off, it kept getting a vapour lock in the tank, I ended up removing the little one way breather valves in the fuel cap, it sorted it out quick, it wasnt a problem unless the bile ended up side down in which case it would have all spilled out.
It's still going strong down here I believe. I think the owner now wants to get something a bit smaller offroady but still likes it.
Quasievil
5th September 2011, 21:20
It's still going strong down here I believe. I think the owner now wants to get something a bit smaller offroady but still likes it.
Oh cool !! he was a nice guy so good luck to him with it all !!
maybe I should buy it back lol
NordieBoy
5th September 2011, 21:22
Go on spit it out.
I had a KLR 650 and it was awesome, just a fuelling issue pissed me off, it kept getting a vapour lock in the tank, I ended up removing the little one way breather valves in the fuel cap, it sorted it out quick, it wasnt a problem unless the bile ended up side down in which case it would have all spilled out.
Woodman likes his KLR too.
bart
5th September 2011, 21:42
KLR's a great....until you get amongst this shit. :shutup:
http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af29/bart-nz/Cold%20Kiwi%202011/IMG_2838.jpg
NordieBoy
5th September 2011, 22:03
KLR's a great....until you get amongst this shit.
Warped maybe, but calling him a shit is a bit much.
888
8th September 2011, 15:16
It will cost me about $800NZ to get a new 19" complete wheel from ProCycle sent over, are there any other NZ or Aussie suppliers that could compete with this price?
NordieBoy
8th September 2011, 16:29
It will cost me about $800NZ to get a new 19" complete wheel from ProCycle sent over, are there any other NZ or Aussie suppliers that could compete with this price?
See if an XF650 owner will sell one...
Paging XF650, XF650 to the white courtesy phone...
DR650gary
8th September 2011, 17:30
It will cost me about $800NZ to get a new 19" complete wheel from ProCycle sent over, are there any other NZ or Aussie suppliers that could compete with this price?
Buy offshore. I am over NZ suppliers, no matter how nice they are to me!
Needed 4 pipe clamp thingys. Could order from the US @ $US0.90 each but freight about $10 and at least a week to ten days wait. So off to the local guys, $12.90 each but after a moan, special price of $6.30 each..Bargain :facepalm:
At least someone else was paying :blink:
Ordered some bits from Twisted Throttle 27 July, shipping date 31/08. Just got an email telling me there is a small delay so things aren't always smooth from that end either. Shame I pulled the bike apart in readiness :blink:
But :whocares:
DR650gary
8th September 2011, 17:34
It will cost me about $800NZ to get a new 19" complete wheel from ProCycle sent over, are there any other NZ or Aussie suppliers that could compete with this price?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/wheels/auction-405354757.htm
It's only 2 inches :innocent:
NordieBoy
8th September 2011, 19:20
It will cost me about $800NZ to get a new 19" complete wheel from ProCycle sent over, are there any other NZ or Aussie suppliers that could compete with this price?
Front or rear wheel?
888
8th September 2011, 20:01
Front or rear wheel?
Front wheel, I'm basing my decision on a review by the ProCycle team on a 19" front giving far better tar seal performance while still allowing some thrashing on gravel and easy (dry) trail...
warewolf
8th September 2011, 20:38
If you ride in mud a huge amount of crud gets stuck up behind that cover, I dunno whether removing it would made that any better or worse.Better, IME. Mud still gets stuck between the cases and the sprocket, but not on the outboard side.
NordieBoy
8th September 2011, 21:23
Front wheel, I'm basing my decision on a review by the ProCycle team on a 19" front giving far better tar seal performance while still allowing some thrashing on gravel and easy (dry) trail...
Find an XF650 front wheel then. It should bolt right up.
badlieutenant
8th September 2011, 23:08
Made it to the end of this thread :D hurrah!!
cheers to those who have contributed here and on other forums (nordieboy)
and dr650gary who sold me thos rims and gave me a coffee to help me on my way back to auckland. That power gearcommander (http://www.gearingcommander.com/) link has been awesome :D
Mods so far
rims (i think they were off a rgv gary)
airbox mod (top is off)
header grind
zx10r exhaust because all the 01 gixxer muffler are made of gold or gone. (works really well)
seat mod (just unstapled it and packed some foam in. really comfortable.
re-jetted carbs
520chain 16t frnt sprocket and 41t rear
*side bitch* ordered these and expected to wait a few weeks. 3 months !! Wish I had paid more attention to the sales guy. They turned up last week. a month after the ones I ordered turned up 2 weeeks after I ordered then. Wemoto (http://www.wemoto.com/) for the win.
oh and the spark retarder thing spun 180deg.
Quasi maybe i should give u my one to take a blast on ? with the wrong profile tyre, a 120 on a 110rim and stuffed wheel bearings (these have been fixed)
its stable as on the motorway. It does turn very quickly atm tho. That will change once the tyres are used up.
Only time I miss the high speed is on the straights but I dont miss the fuel bill. I will miss the sound of my vfr. 18 years on that one bike.
Once you get these things in the twisties they are so much fun.
Another thing to consider brett is if you get something similar you can set it up so that you can do both.
The rims gary sold me drop out and I can put the standard ones in. 30minutes and off I go on an adventure ride. :D
Oh the leathers are still O for awesome quasi :D
888
9th September 2011, 07:27
:violin:So the search for an XF650 wheel begins...Boyds quoted me $400 for a DR650 front wheel hub, and it would cost another $600-$650 for Wheel and Spoke Services NZ to lace up and put together the front wheel. So ProCycle still wins with their $800NZ price for a brand new 19". I could probably shave some of the shipping cost by having a mate in the states send it over as well. Still waiting to hear back from an Aussie wheel maker to see how they compete with the states- I don't think any NZ supplier can be competitive with the dollar as high as it is now.
The Pastor
9th September 2011, 09:23
:violin:So the search for an XF650 wheel begins...Boyds quoted me $400 for a DR650 front wheel hub, and it would cost another $600-$650 for Wheel and Spoke Services NZ to lace up and put together the front wheel. So ProCycle still wins with their $800NZ price for a brand new 19". I could probably shave some of the shipping cost by having a mate in the states send it over as well. Still waiting to hear back from an Aussie wheel maker to see how they compete with the states- I don't think any NZ supplier can be competitive with the dollar as high as it is now.
talk to squiggles, he got a set of wheels from overseas (probably procycle, but not sure) and they did not fit, last i heard either bent hub or bent brake disc
gav24
9th September 2011, 15:34
Just a thought, I have been getting a bit of stuff for my vintage MX'ers recently from ebay.
Seem to have just about anything I need, no matter how obscure, and with the exchange rate the prices are pretty keen at the moment too.
I have never had any trouble with traders in the states (different story with UK ebay and trade me!), US Postal Service priority is pretty quick (4 days from arizona is my current record!:gob:), or using Paypal.
Maybe give that 19' front wheel a go on there...
DR650gary
9th September 2011, 17:00
Made it to the end of this thread :D hurrah!!
cheers to those who have contributed here and on other forums (nordieboy)
and dr650gary who sold me thos rims and gave me a coffee to help me on my way back to auckland. That power gearcommander (http://www.gearingcommander.com/) link has been awesome :D
Mods so far
rims (i think they were off a rgv gary)
airbox mod (top is off)
header grind
zx10r exhaust because all the 01 gixxer muffler are made of gold or gone. (works really well)
seat mod (just unstapled it and packed some foam in. really comfortable.
re-jetted carbs
520chain 16t frnt sprocket and 41t rear
*side bitch* ordered these and expected to wait a few weeks. 3 months !! Wish I had paid more attention to the sales guy. They turned up last week. a month after the ones I ordered turned up 2 weeeks after I ordered then. Wemoto (http://www.wemoto.com/) for the win.
oh and the spark retarder thing spun 180deg.
Quasi maybe i should give u my one to take a blast on ? with the wrong profile tyre, a 120 on a 110rim and stuffed wheel bearings (these have been fixed)
its stable as on the motorway. It does turn very quickly atm tho. That will change once the tyres are used up.
Only time I miss the high speed is on the straights but I dont miss the fuel bill. I will miss the sound of my vfr. 18 years on that one bike.
Once you get these things in the twisties they are so much fun.
Another thing to consider brett is if you get something similar you can set it up so that you can do both.
The rims gary sold me drop out and I can put the standard ones in. 30minutes and off I go on an adventure ride. :D
Oh the leathers are still O for awesome quasi :D
Now enjoy the ride :yes:
Glad they went to a good home.
gav24
10th September 2011, 20:32
Thought I'd better clean and service the old girl a bit today, as I had 2 hours free this arvo.
Started with a pressure wash clean (managed to lose the left side rubber cover for the swingarm pivot - doh!:facepalm:) But that did remind me that I havent greased the swingarm pivot since I've had the bike - I hope that suzuki werent too tight with the grease gun as I didnt do it today either...Anyone have experiences to tell me I should?
I finally got round to grinding out the weld on the header pipe. We'll see if there is any noticable difference... I also gave the pipe a proper clean and realised that its not actually that mud colour as standard!:innocent:
Then took the seat, other side panel and tank off to swap the plunger choke on the new flat slide carb back to the original cable, but realised that my "helper",3 year old son Tom, had lost a cable end from the choke cable, as it pinged from the retaining spring across the garage - double Doh! :facepalm::facepalm: So will have to leave that for now.
Whilst there decided to check the valve clearances - spot on, right in the middle of the tolerance for both inlet and exhaust:yes::yes: Still untouched after 12,000kms
Then I took out the air filter for a clean (Is anyone else finding the new green No-Toil oil a bit shit? Hard to put on evenly and turns a bit too dry after a few weeks...? Still quick and easy to clean.)
Then took off the counter shaft sprocket cover and gave it all a good clean under there (front sprocket starting to hook slightly, might have to get a new one...Chain and rear sprocket are still going strong)
Gave the plugs a quick clean, do you need to worry about the colour of these anymore? Seemed a little "white" at the tip to me. Lean?
Next job; tomorrow morning I'm gonna do the job I told the missus I was only going to quickly do today - oil and filter:shutup:
New shopping list - Front sprocket, a rubber frame plug, and a choke cable ferrule (is that what they are called?)
Should be all good for another 6,000kms again !
Not too sure why I'm sharing all that - not too revolutionary or enlightening I'm sure... But good to be reminded of a few things;
1. DR's are super easy to work on, you should all do your own maintenance with one of these bikes.
2. Pressure washers are both your friend and your enemy!
3. Help from a 3 year old boy can be as frustrating for you, as it is fun for him!
DR650gary
11th September 2011, 09:36
I dunno, blaming a little boy :facepalm:
You are right though, the DR is/was an easy bike to get at, although I would have preferred a seat release mechanism. Both side covers off then 2 bolts. Easy but on the side of the road 4 little bits to loose and 2 tools needed to get it off. Plus, I always had a bit of a mission to line the mounting lug hole up at the front of the cover.
However, the TDM has 7 screws to get the screen off, 6 capheads to get the dash surround off which then lets me get at the wiring behind the headlight. But....the seat pops of with a key :yes:
86GSXR
11th September 2011, 09:54
Fitted a Spitfire screen yesterday. Took a bit of fiddling to get the positioning right but makes an amazing difference to the road riding, much reduced windblast. The secret is to have it as low down the front cowl as possible and angled back a fair bit otherwise the buffetting is just too much. I've got mine just right now and I was able to ride 200kms without being dragged off the bike by the wind. Took off round some forest and beach, dropped it twice :facepalm:, absolutely no damage to either bike or screen :D
Pikey
11th September 2011, 10:18
Fitted my hand made screen yesterday :cool: (Mk III clear one this time) photos to follow when I find the camera :confused:
Fitted top box too so ready for summer :)
I'm pretty sure I can do you a deal on the missing part if you want Gav?
Still on the look out for a 520/16t sprocket??
NordieBoy
11th September 2011, 12:19
Still on the look out for a 520/16t sprocket??
JTF437 DR650 pre 96
http://www.jtsprockets.com/52.0.html?&L=0&sel_uid=6058&p=
For 14 and 15t go for DR750 sprockets. They've got a wider base on the spline.
Pikey
11th September 2011, 14:28
Thanks Fran :)
gav24
11th September 2011, 18:35
I dunno, blaming a little boy :facepalm:
You are right though, the DR is/was an easy bike to get at, although I would have preferred a seat release mechanism. Both side covers off then 2 bolts. Easy but on the side of the road 4 little bits to loose and 2 tools needed to get it off. Plus, I always had a bit of a mission to line the mounting lug hole up at the front of the cover.
However, the TDM has 7 screws to get the screen off, 6 capheads to get the dash surround off which then lets me get at the wiring behind the headlight. But....the seat pops of with a key :yes:
Luckily seat doesnt need top come off that often, not even for a filter change, so all good, If you were keen you could drill a hole on each side panel in line with the seat bolts, like KTM used to have so you get at the exhaust bolts, back when they used to have useful side number boards...:facepalm:
Magnum Noel
11th September 2011, 19:13
:woohoo:Looks like it might be cold tomorrow so these should be handy. Fitted them yesterday.
http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff442/Noelsy/DSC02460.jpg
http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff442/Noelsy/DSC02459.jpg
gav24
12th September 2011, 20:18
Must be the onset of spring, the clocks changing, or the daylight lasting a bit longer... but during the oil change I finally managed to get around to drilling out the centre of the sump plug for about 5mm deep with the 6mm drill, and aralditing in a good stong magnet (Thank you petes emporium - 60c) I have previously only remembered to do this job just as I have poured in 2 lites of fresh oil!:facepalm:
There was a slightly concerning amount of swarf left at the bottom of the oil pan... Every shard a false neutral or crunched change! :violin:
At least it will now stick to the magnet so I can be even more easily concerned. ah well...
NordieBoy
12th September 2011, 21:38
I just drop the magnet in the hole.
It's not coming out...
DR650gary
12th September 2011, 21:45
:woohoo:Looks like it might be cold tomorrow so these should be handy. Fitted them yesterday.
Sissy :innocent:
Seriously, had them on my DR and ZRX and they were great.
Just waiting for a few other shiny bits and will have a set fitted to the TDM.
I did note that the rubber grips on the ones on my DR were well worn which means a job to replace them so we have fitted the heating pads on the other bikes which go under the grips so the grips can be changes and the pads retained. They are available on Ebay for a few bucks, just add a better switch from Jaycar or DSE and bob's your uncle.
thepom
12th September 2011, 22:37
How long have you had the tdm? and are you happy with it and any problems so far?...
Transalper
12th September 2011, 23:03
Anyone had issues with slop in the rear brake lever on their DR650's.
J's DR failed the WOF because they didn't like how much the lever moved before the Master Cylinder piston started to move.
What to do what to do.
I pulled the lever off and it seems like the hole at the end where the yoke attaches by a pin may be a fraction elongated and maybe the same in the frame, generally looks ok but I guess a bit of play here and a bit of play there all adds up.
Any one any advise on a fix or do i go buy new lever, pin and yoke and hope there is no issue with the frame?
Reckon my DR has a similar amount of slop but I pushed on a new one in the shop on the weekend and it was quite firm by comparison.
pete-blen
12th September 2011, 23:19
Anyone had issues with slop in the rear brake lever on their DR650's.
J's DR failed the WOF because they didn't like how much the lever moved before the Master Cylinder piston started to move.
What to do what to do.
I pulled the lever off and it seems like the hole at the end where the yoke attaches by a pin may be a fraction elongated and maybe the same in the frame, generally looks ok but I guess a bit of play here and a bit of play there all adds up.
Any one any advise on a fix or do i go buy new lever, pin and yoke and hope there is no issue with the frame?
Reckon my DR has a similar amount of slop but I pushed on a new one in the shop on the weekend and it was quite firm by comparison.
weld the holes and re-drill.. or drill for a bigger pin.. ie 6mm pin re-drill to 1/4
which is .4mm bigger than 6mm... If the frame hole shagged..drill bigger & bush it..
make the bush from soft bronze so it becomes "sacarfissal ?" wares faster so the lever shaft dosn't.
theres a few idea's if they are possable on a DR...
DR650gary
13th September 2011, 08:08
How long have you had the tdm? and are you happy with it and any problems so far?...
Had the bike since March this year.
More than happy with it. Have done 3,000 kms and have been away for 2 months of that time as well.
It came with a PC3 and scorpion cans so it never had the low rev shudders that some seem to have, although I did remove the flutter valve as per forum instructions.
May not be as capable in the rough as the DR was but for the limited time I am on gravel it is fine. Not as quick off the mark as the ZRX was but I have no regrets and have had not a single issue with it and the fuel range is excellent compared to the ZRX and as good as the DR. I am averaging 19.8 kms/litre with a mixture of riding.
Just waiting for a centre stand from Twisted Throttle and will be piling on the k's again. Have fitted Givi racks, paddock stand bobbins, engine crash bars, accessory sockets, indicator buzzers (cause I'm a forgetful dick) and will have the heated pads and centre stand on in a few days.
If you want a road bike that will do gravel more than adequately, want to go 2 up touring, then I recommend the bike.
I love it! :love:
DR650gary
13th September 2011, 08:12
weld the holes and re-drill.. or drill for a bigger pin.. ie 6mm pin re-drill to 1/4
which is .4mm bigger than 6mm... If the frame hole shagged..drill bigger & bush it..
make the bush from soft bronze so it becomes "sacarfissal ?" wares faster so the lever shaft dosn't.
theres a few idea's if they are possable on a DR...
Isn't it adjustable?
Can't remember but thought there was a threaded bit somewhere somewhere.
NordieBoy
13th September 2011, 09:31
Isn't it adjustable?
Can't remember but thought there was a threaded bit somewhere somewhere.
On the master cylinder plunger.
Transalper
13th September 2011, 10:08
That's the height adjustment, has no effect on the amount of slop.
DR650gary
13th September 2011, 10:49
That's the height adjustment, has no effect on the amount of slop.
I don't know about that :innocent:
Slop as in side to side, or slop as in up and down?
If your footlever is travelling too far before you get some piston movement, then try the adjustment. Won't hurt will it?
If side to side sloppy, make a small plastic bush and get back to get it certified :yes:
Cheers
Transalper
13th September 2011, 11:32
...If your footlever is travelling too far before you get some piston movement, then try the adjustment. Won't hurt will it?...
It is the foot lever travelling too far before the piston moves and no the height adjustment has no effect. You get a lever sitting high which still moves a heap before the piston moves. I'll look at welding and drilling the holes etc as per pete-blen's post... but it's not something I have the skills or tools for.
NordieBoy
13th September 2011, 14:29
It is the foot lever travelling too far before the piston moves and no the height adjustment has no effect. You get a lever sitting high which still moves a heap before the piston moves. I'll look at welding and drilling the holes etc as per pete-blen's post... but it's not something I have the skills or tools for.
Wrap some shim material (beer can) around the shaft and bung it back in...
Magnum Noel
13th September 2011, 17:18
Sissy :innocent:
Seriously, had them on my DR and ZRX and they were great.
Just waiting for a few other shiny bits and will have a set fitted to the TDM.
I did note that the rubber grips on the ones on my DR were well worn which means a job to replace them so we have fitted the heating pads on the other bikes which go under the grips so the grips can be changes and the pads retained. They are available on Ebay for a few bucks, just add a better switch from Jaycar or DSE and bob's your uncle.
Now you tell me!!!:shit:
Transalper
13th September 2011, 17:34
Wrap some shim material (beer can) around the shaft and bung it back in...
ahh, was trying to think what I might use to pad the pivot hole in the frame, I was thinking plastics but pity I don't drink beer... Oh I know, it'll be real sharp when I'm done... a Lift Plus can!
sudman
13th September 2011, 17:40
So has anyone ever had one of the Suzuki gel seats you can buy off ebay?
NordieBoy
13th September 2011, 17:48
So has anyone ever had one of the Suzuki gel seats you can buy off ebay?
Apart from the fact they are more uncomfortable than the stocker and really really hold the heat in summer?
DR650gary
13th September 2011, 17:49
Now you tell me!!!:shit:
Now now, I had posted something way back in an archive here or on ADVRider. This forum, DR650 Thread plus the ADVrider forum are a wealth (minefield) of info.
The Oxfords I had had done about 5,000 kms I think so they were entitled to a bit of wear. Not sure how often you change your grips but any off will probably chew them a bit, unless you have barkbusters.
Just enjoy the warm fingers feeling :woohoo:
DR650gary
13th September 2011, 17:52
Apart from the fact they are more uncomfortable than the stocker and really really hold the heat in summer?
What he said.
There are quite a few comments on ADVRider about them. From memory.....
What he said :bye:
sudman
13th September 2011, 17:56
So I will not be buying a gel seat then, they looked like a good idea being lower & with being a short ass, I was hoping not to lower the bike.
DR650gary
13th September 2011, 18:02
So I will not be buying a gel seat then, they looked like a good idea being lower & with being a short ass, I was hoping not to lower the bike.
Also easy to do. Search the forum, 20 minute job from what I read.
gav24
13th September 2011, 19:37
So I will not be buying a gel seat then, they looked like a good idea being lower & with being a short ass, I was hoping not to lower the bike.
Glam rock platform boots...:facepalm::blink:
NordieBoy
13th September 2011, 20:05
Glam rock platform boots...:facepalm::blink:
White AlpineStars.
Yeah, baby!
sudman
13th September 2011, 20:19
I think I will need some more hair to pull that one off:woohoo:
You going to the VMX in Masterton Gav
Pikey
13th September 2011, 21:06
Haha I think the RM400 still has my paddock fix on its pipe from the last years final :facepalm:
The DR is too much fun :scooter::woohoo:
BRR ride on the 25th too :confused:
I managed to track down a 16t 520 sprocket but having no luck finding a 14 in NZ :(
If anyone is doing any shopping at Procycle I'd be keen if they could get one in their order for me?
NordieBoy
13th September 2011, 21:49
I managed to track down a 16t 520 sprocket but having no luck finding a 14 in NZ :(
If anyone is doing any shopping at Procycle I'd be keen if they could get one in their order for me?
Got a 14 here you could have. I prefer the 15 and 16 at the moment and won't need a 14 'till the Dusty Butt as the TT350 is doing the gnarlier stuff.
86GSXR
14th September 2011, 07:17
Can anyone explain how much of a difference grinding that weld out of the header makes? Ta.
Pikey
14th September 2011, 07:56
Thanks Fran. Email sent:)
NordieBoy
14th September 2011, 09:31
Can anyone explain how much of a difference grinding that weld out of the header makes? Ta.
Bugger all, but it makes you feel much better knowing it's gone.
Eddieb
14th September 2011, 09:53
Can anyone explain how much of a difference grinding that weld out of the header makes? Ta.
I did mine in the weekend seeing as I had the pipe off anyway. I haven't ridden the bike yet so have no idea if it made any difference. I've seen pics of other pipes that were much worse than mine.
Before
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After
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NordieBoy
14th September 2011, 10:13
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20070427%20Header%20Weld%20Grind/thumbs/20070427-164734.jpg (http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20070427%20Header%20Weld%20Grind/slides/20070427-164734.jpg)
http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20070427%20Header%20Weld%20Grind/thumbs/20070507-173208.jpg (http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20070427%20Header%20Weld%20Grind/slides/20070507-173208.jpg)
Monstaman
14th September 2011, 10:28
Can anyone explain how much of a difference grinding that weld out of the header makes? Ta.
It helps with wheelies with the weight gone coupled with the 60 hp gain :devil2:.
Seriously, it will help the thing flow a little nicer and coupled with a DJ kit, airbox opening and a pipe they will all make up 1+1+1+1 to make a nice difference, mostly just filling in holes in the fueling and making them run smoother and unblocking them.
It is a free mod thus worth doing
Team Buffoon
15th September 2011, 00:17
Anyone else noticed that there are suddenly a whole bunch of 2009 model DR650s for sale on TradeMe? Couple of other Suzuki models as well. Has someone found a container or two in their back shed or did a load of old models get dropped off by a passing box boat? Me I'm watching the prices.
86GSXR
16th September 2011, 14:15
Bugger all, but it makes you feel much better knowing it's gone.
I did mine in the weekend seeing as I had the pipe off anyway. I haven't ridden the bike yet so have no idea if it made any difference. I've seen pics of other pipes that were much worse than mine.
Before
246793
After
246794
It helps with wheelies with the weight gone coupled with the 60 hp gain :devil2:.
Seriously, it will help the thing flow a little nicer and coupled with a DJ kit, airbox opening and a pipe they will all make up 1+1+1+1 to make a nice difference, mostly just filling in holes in the fueling and making them run smoother and unblocking them.
It is a free mod thus worth doing
Thanks for the comments :yes: A better pipe is definitely on the list at some point, a little extra HP would be just the ticket
Anyone else noticed that there are suddenly a whole bunch of 2009 model DR650s for sale on TradeMe? Couple of other Suzuki models as well. Has someone found a container or two in their back shed or did a load of old models get dropped off by a passing box boat? Me I'm watching the prices.
I'd say they're running them out atm, with some pretty sharp prices now and then too!
MXNUT
17th September 2011, 11:03
Anyone else noticed that there are suddenly a whole bunch of 2009 model DR650s for sale on TradeMe? Me I'm watching the prices.
Like this one, a pretty good price for a new bike registered and ready to go :yes:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-407519489.htm
dino3310
17th September 2011, 11:29
Like this one, a pretty good price for a new bike registered and ready to go :yes:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-407519489.htm
:drool: yeah always a good price when ya got no coin :crybaby:
did ya sort the lowering of fayes DR
Team Buffoon
17th September 2011, 16:55
I bought a DR650 to go on the Coromandel Camp out and Pukemanu w/e and see if this Adventure riding lived up to expectations. I have a 950 Adv but being a complete clutz off road never had the balls to get it dirty except for some gravel. Both trips were great and I want more so after much perusal of TMe I have bought a more youthful DR with plenty of goodies.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=405894363
Sorry dont know how to shorten the link. I am currently out of the country but back in 10 days or so. If anyone wants an 04 DR 650 with 40 odd thou km all set to go or a mint very low mileage KTM950Adv let me know.
Can't wait to get it dirty.
Eddieb
17th September 2011, 17:34
I bought a DR650 to go on the Coromandel Camp out and Pukemanu w/e and see if this Adventure riding lived up to expectations. I have a 950 Adv but being a complete clutz off road never had the balls to get it dirty except for some gravel. Both trips were great and I want more so after much perusal of TMe I have bought a more youthful DR with plenty of goodies.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=405894363
Sorry dont know how to shorten the link. I am currently out of the country but back in 10 days or so. If anyone wants an 04 DR 650 with 40 odd thou km all set to go or a mint very low mileage KTM950Adv let me know.
Can't wait to get it dirty.
Thats a well set up DR, well done.
Pikey
18th September 2011, 13:44
Here's pics of DIY screen mark III. Mark II (white) donated to Sudman for his project DR :)
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DR650gary
18th September 2011, 13:56
Well done. I see a cottage industry springing up.
sudman
18th September 2011, 17:06
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab217/sudmanvmx/Suzuki%20DR650%202004/232.jpg
Long range fuel tank fitted
http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab217/sudmanvmx/Suzuki%20DR650%202004/233.jpg
New bash plate
Eddieb
18th September 2011, 17:43
Here's pics of DIY screen mark III.
Nice work. Would velcro hold a screen on?
NordieBoy
18th September 2011, 18:19
Nice work. Would velcro hold a screen on?
The good 3m stuff would, no problem.
DR650gary
18th September 2011, 19:52
The good 3m stuff would, no problem.
Any chance the sun would break down the glue on the velcro strip?
Velcro would make it an easy on and off.
NordieBoy
18th September 2011, 19:56
Any chance the sun would break down the glue on the velcro strip?
Velcro would make it an easy on and off.
A blowtorch maybe.
Pikey
18th September 2011, 20:28
The adhesive on the velcro was no good on the plastic :no:
4 wellplugs just as quick to undo if you want to remove it :)
Pikey
18th September 2011, 20:31
Got your screen on yet Tony??
Magnum Noel
18th September 2011, 21:18
Here's pics of DIY screen mark III. Mark II (white) donated to Sudman for his project DR :)
246978
That screen is awsome. How did you do the bends? You must be multitalented.
pete-blen
18th September 2011, 21:52
Dzus fasrtners / clips
http://www.tpub.com/content/aviation/14014/img/14014_109_2.jpg
Team Buffoon
19th September 2011, 02:16
Been browsing today and come across a couple of interesting sites. Apologies if it old hat to the old school DR boys.
http://dr650.zenseeker.net/
This has a wealth of information, some tips better than others. Hordes of links to waste hours on.
http://www.hessler-motorsport.de
An alternative to the Pro Cycle site for drooling. Much of it is in German but worth a shufti.
Enjoy.
888
19th September 2011, 09:07
Here's pics of DIY screen mark III. Mark II (white) donated to Sudman for his project DR :)
246978
Great looking screen, like the angle and height- how much for one?:yes:
DR650gary
19th September 2011, 12:58
Great looking screen, like the angle and height- how much for one?:yes:
Told you, time to give up the day job :woohoo:
Eddieb
19th September 2011, 13:45
Great looking screen, like the angle and height- how much for one?:yes:
I had been thinking similiar thoughts.
Monstaman
19th September 2011, 15:32
I had been thinking similiar thoughts.
So did I, PMed and had a chat but I don't have the skills (or at least I have not done anything like that)...can't make one of those with a mig!!.
Pikey ...peer pressure...wine ... beer...bribes...woman...corruption ....whatilitake :shutup:
NordieBoy
19th September 2011, 16:06
Only takes about 20m to make one...
Eddieb
19th September 2011, 16:06
So did I, PMed and had a chat but I don't have the skills (or at least I have not done anything like that)...can't make one of those with a mig!!.
Pikey ...peer pressure...wine ... beer...bribes...woman...corruption ....whatilitake :shutup:
Yeah me neither. I think I have the template saved off ADVrider somewhere but any effort by me would never come out like that.
Monstaman
19th September 2011, 17:13
Only takes about 20m to make one...
I almost believed you Nordie!
I have a Suomi irdium helmet visor on my bike at the mo and it works well enough but for our trip away a bigger screen for Patablowia would be better.
c h e c k i t o u t b r o :yes:
Waihou Thumper
19th September 2011, 17:24
are those two brothers?
Monstaman
19th September 2011, 17:38
are those two brothers?
Without sounding like a set of mufflers that would be correct. :laugh:
Yes he in the black is Paul who is Trials Rider here on KB and me in the light jacket.
He is my identical twin bro, 4 minutes older.
Steelie
19th September 2011, 18:32
Anyone botherd with fitting a centre stand. If so, are there any off other bikes that will fit?
VSM has one for $269.00 au
Procycle $159.95 us
NordieBoy
19th September 2011, 19:03
I almost believed you Nordie!
Ummm....
It's actually true :niceone:
Once I'd got the pattern I wanted then it was only 20min to cut it out, fold it up and bolt it on.
NordieBoy
19th September 2011, 19:04
Anyone botherd with fitting a centre stand. If so, are there any off other bikes that will fit?
VSM has one for $269.00 au
Procycle $159.95 us
Got one made doon sarf.
Eddieb
19th September 2011, 19:08
Anyone botherd with fitting a centre stand. If so, are there any off other bikes that will fit?
VSM has one for $269.00 au
Procycle $159.95 us
My bike had one from a GN250 when I got it. Only worked with the bike in the factory lowered setup.
sudman
19th September 2011, 19:30
Here's pics of DIY screen mark III. Mark II (white) donated to Sudman for his project DR :)
246978http://i865.photobucket.com/albums/ab217/sudmanvmx/Suzuki%20DR650%202004/001.jpg
And the white one
Monstaman
19th September 2011, 19:45
And the white one
How To Make A Windscreen For Dumbies 1.01
Ok, I am listening, wonna do two clear screens for our TMK trip (cos we are short and need to see through them) :facepalm:
I am all ears, would be very happy to make our own to save $$$ but have never done anything like that before.
EDIT, BTW nice back drop of coolio kit !!!:drinknsin
sudman
19th September 2011, 20:06
Pikey the man he made the one on my bike & the clear one on his.
DR650gary
19th September 2011, 20:23
http://www.twistedthrottle.com/trade/productview/2668/394/
Same price. Not a bad price imho.
Monstaman
19th September 2011, 20:25
Pikey the man he made the one on my bike & the clear one on his.
Yeah I know, I PMed and he said they are easy :scratch:........ :shifty:.....:psst:<-(I dunno wot I am doin)
Pikey
19th September 2011, 21:27
I'll try to scan the template I made from Lincolns one he emailed to me?247118
Having access to the strip heater made the job easier.
3mm Clear acrylic off cut from plastic out fit (Classique Plastics in Napier)
Cut out with jigsaw. Then heat and bend to shape.
Long angled bends first, then short bends and then middle bend to fit.
The white acrylic (shower lining) was much easier to work with though!!!!!!
Can cut with tin snips and easier to bend.
Heat and then bend over steel square tube.
Taadaa :cool:
I made first prototype out of cardboard (tui box) to work out the angles.
Squiggles
20th September 2011, 00:00
Im keen to have a go at making one of them so yes please to the template! :yes:
SUZI GIRL
20th September 2011, 18:50
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My new DR650 lowrider with adjustable suspension links and adjustable billet alloy side stand.:cool:
Pikey
20th September 2011, 19:25
Sweet even lower than mine :D
Monstaman
20th September 2011, 19:39
247141247142247143
My new DR650 lowrider with adjustable suspension links and adjustable billet alloy side stand.:cool:
Nice work, I made lowering links for Ellen so it lowers it by 40 mm, then we bought the forks up through the clamps, this worked very well.
Not as flash as adjustable and billet tho :woohoo:
The Pastor
20th September 2011, 19:51
247141247142247143
My new DR650 lowrider with adjustable suspension links and adjustable billet alloy side stand.:cool:
did f1 engineering do this?
pete-blen
20th September 2011, 20:10
247141247142247143
My new DR650 lowrider with adjustable suspension links and adjustable billet alloy side stand.:cool:
Nice easy adjustable lowering link set...:niceone:
rod ends & bit of hex bar..:2thumbsup
DR650gary
20th September 2011, 21:01
That is a good piece of kit.
Number 8 wire technology is alive and well in NZ :woohoo:
pete376403
20th September 2011, 22:12
Wonder how long those rod ends would live with road grit and worse being thrown at them?
pete-blen
20th September 2011, 22:51
Wonder how long those rod ends would live with road grit and worse being thrown at them?
for a dam long time..
there is very little movement......
you could put a grease nipple in the centre of the hex
as theres a hole up the threaded section into the ball...
The only issue I can see with the set up as it
is on the DR posted...the houseings are not held captive
a good whack on something..its possable for the houseing
to pop off the ball... they need washers on the out side
with a OD bigger than the houseings ID
MXNUT
21st September 2011, 08:36
did f1 engineering do this?
Soupys Performance Parts USA, $220 US for stand and links.
That is a good piece of kit.
Number 8 wire technology is alive and well in NZ :woohoo:
Not quite, they came from the States :innocent:
Wonder how long those rod ends would live with road grit and worse being thrown at them?
While they look like rod ends they are infact just recessed ends that tighten up on the linkage bearing collar like standard, so the moving bearing surface is inside the linkage behind the seals.
While i did consider making links myself using rod ends the advantage of this set up is that one end of the linkage is L/H thread, so to adjust the ride height all you need to do is loosen off the lock nuts and turn the large centre nut.
This was a + factor for me as i may want to use the bike from time to time,:love: thats why i also went with the adjustable stand. 15 minutes and the bike is reset to any ride height you want.
tri boy
21st September 2011, 09:10
This was a + factor for me as i may want to use the bike from time to time,:love:
I think kanny wants to have a blast also.
Bribe you with some cookies, and your much better half with a bottle of plonk.:drinkup:
pete-blen
21st September 2011, 13:18
Soupys Performance Parts USA, $220 US for stand and links.
Not quite, they came from the States :innocent:
While they look like rod ends they are infact just recessed ends that tighten up on the linkage bearing collar like standard, so the moving bearing surface is inside the linkage behind the seals.
While i did consider making links myself using rod ends the advantage of this set up is that one end of the linkage is L/H thread, so to adjust the ride height all you need to do is loosen off the lock nuts and turn the large centre nut.
Yer can get L/H rod ends...
http://www.theracingdepot.co.nz/#rodend
gav24
21st September 2011, 20:08
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/wheels/auction-407889716.htm
Maybe useful to someone, I think these fit late model DR650's - no cush drive set up but 18 inch rim would be good for a spare knobby tire set up though...
or a useful hub for a motard?
bit expensive for what it is I thought...?
MXNUT
22nd September 2011, 10:04
Yer can get L/H rod ends...
http://www.theracingdepot.co.nz/#rodend
Yeah but can you get the centre nut with L/H thread in 1 end and R/H thread in the other.:blink:
pete376403
22nd September 2011, 11:36
An alternative to lefthand / righthand thread centre nut is to use what I saw on (of all things an IBM golfball typewriter) - an adjusting link used a coarse thread at one end and a fine thread at the other (both right hand thread). The adjustment was the difference between the two threads.
Now, can you get coarse and fine thread rod ends (or whatever they are)?
pete-blen
22nd September 2011, 13:24
An alternative to lefthand / righthand thread centre nut is to use what I saw on (of all things an IBM golfball typewriter) - an adjusting link used a coarse thread at one end and a fine thread at the other (both right hand thread). The adjustment was the difference between the two threads.
Now, can you get coarse and fine thread rod ends (or whatever they are)?
Well yer maybe.. or
Metric & UNF:gob::facepalm:
The Pastor
23rd September 2011, 11:45
what km/l do you guys get?
I got 21km/l on the trip home. (open road)
since then I've removed the snorkel and put a 14tooth sprocket on.
now I get 17km/l
is it the snorkel or the sprocket that did that?
Eddieb
23rd September 2011, 11:54
what km/l do you guys get?
I got 21km/l on the trip home. (open road)
since then I've removed the snorkel and put a 14tooth sprocket on.
now I get 17km/l
is it the snorkel or the sprocket that did that?
I get 21-22km/l open road with stock gearing and snorkel removed.
My bet is the sprocket, and you canning it more enjoying the quicker response it gives.
The snorkel will make it run leaner, the sprocket means you will be doing ~300rpm higher revs for any given speed, so your fuel consumption will be slightly higher at any given speed. Though I wouldn't have expected that sort of difference.
The Pastor
23rd September 2011, 13:07
I get 21-22km/l open road with stock gearing and snorkel removed.
My bet is the sprocket, and you canning it more enjoying the quicker response it gives.
The snorkel will make it run leaner, the sprocket means you will be doing ~300rpm higher revs for any given speed, so your fuel consumption will be slightly higher at any given speed. Though I wouldn't have expected that sort of difference.
that's what I was thinking. I will put it back on (as its so easy to do) and see if any difference.
NordieBoy
23rd September 2011, 13:52
what km/l do you guys get?
I got 21km/l on the trip home. (open road)
since then I've removed the snorkel and put a 14tooth sprocket on.
now I get 17km/l
is it the snorkel or the sprocket that did that?
I got bugger all difference even when I did everything to the BST.
Shortened slide spring, 22nd hole in slide, opened airbox, twinair filter, header weld ground, GSXR pipe, Dynojet kit = 18-19km/L no matter what sprocket I used.
But I ride like a nana.
If you've removed the snorkel, then you should really shim the needle up a mm or so.
The Pastor
23rd September 2011, 15:25
If you've removed the snorkel, then you should really shim the needle up a mm or so.
tried that but it ran like shit
NordieBoy
23rd September 2011, 20:07
tried that but it ran like shit
Then you may have other issues. How old is the bike?
gazzerklr
24th September 2011, 09:36
I lifted the needle 1 notch which was 1mm, it ran like shit. Went to a .5mm washer, runs great, with just snorkel removed
gav24
30th September 2011, 07:31
My usually ridiculously reliable 650 cut out this morning on the way to work...
Felt like it ran out of gas,
It did!
Haha:blink:
Anyway, the point of this for those wondering is that I got just over 170kms to a std tank with the new Flatslide fitted (procycle kit), cut away airbox, Uni filter, and header weld ground down.
Better by 20 - 30kms than I used to get with the std BST carb. (all other mods the same) and so much more responsive, quicker than the old carb as well. It is the perfect mod for the DR650 - faster and cheaper to run:gob:
Pikey
30th September 2011, 07:43
:facepalm: For some reason I can't stop laughing :killingme
Making my decision to get a bigger tank even closer now :ride:
Shewolf
30th September 2011, 10:22
jeez that's low - I'm running stock everything and getting about 225km res and anything from 290/315 dry....what the?:blink:
Pikey
30th September 2011, 13:25
You haven't seen how he rides :eek:
sudman
30th September 2011, 16:57
So got yourself a push bike Gav :scooter:
gav24
2nd October 2011, 09:05
Yeah, just got in, been pushing since friday morning!
Nah, seriously, should have made that clearer, I only had to flick it on to reserve and I was away again.
I've never got much over 200kms to reserve even when stock:gob: But my riding involves quite a bit of stop-start through town stuff, a 1km blat on SH1, occasional wheelies, and mainly off-road when I get the chance to ride at weekends. Hardly ever cruise along, so that may explain it...
MXNUT
2nd October 2011, 17:42
Is the 14 tooth countershaft sprocket a DR650 part or is it made for another model, trying to get 1 as part of a chain and sprocket kit.
Come in Nordie :innocent:
gav24
2nd October 2011, 18:28
...or Pikey...
He is going through something of a sprocket fetish at the moment and has found one from another model that he secures with 2 circlips instead of the bolt on plate, think he said KLR650, but I was busy looking at his new screen:love: and top box the size of a caravan to remember the exact details!
...come in Pikey...
Eddieb
2nd October 2011, 18:40
. busy looking at his new screen:love:
...come in Pikey...
Pikey really needs to make a couple of those screens.
gav24
2nd October 2011, 18:50
Errr well....
He's currently out of plastic, and I had to take the strip heater back to work.
He did make me a 50mm shorter version though - for hire fees of the heater you understand!, still needs a bit of "fiddling" to fit though... Got a bit of an idea to paint the inside of mine...
I also have a bit of plastic from the off cuts to make a headlight guard to match.(might not paint that though!:facepalm:
Hope to get some time in the next few weeks to have a play with the jigsaw, drill and spray cans, (never usually a recipe for motorcycle improvements!) then post up the results.
Keep bugging Pikey though, I can easily get him the heater again...
NordieBoy
2nd October 2011, 18:53
Is the 14 tooth countershaft sprocket a DR650 part or is it made for another model, trying to get 1 as part of a chain and sprocket kit.
Come in Nordie :innocent:
Just order a front 14t sprocket for a DR650.
They do a 14 and 15 in 525.
It's only when you go to 520 that you start mixing RGV250, DR650 <96 and DR750 bits...
pete376403
2nd October 2011, 19:31
just as a matter of interest, what other bikes use 525 chain?
Transalper
2nd October 2011, 20:16
Transalps use 525 chains too.
.
On my DR650 I kept the 15 tooth front and grew the rear by 2 teeth instead.
NordieBoy
2nd October 2011, 20:23
I like 15/46 now after a while favoring 16/46 which is the same as 15/43.
Eddieb
2nd October 2011, 20:47
I'll be going 15/43 on my next sprocket set as my standard gearing, with a 14 in my toolkit if required.
Pikey
3rd October 2011, 19:59
Mine was 15/44 when I got it. I felt it was working a bit hard on the road? :scooter: Got a 16 on the front now and a 14 for when it gets tricky.:2thumbsup
NordieBoy
3rd October 2011, 21:04
15/44 is pulling 4950 rpm at 110 kph and would pull to a theoretical 173 kph.
16/44 is pulling 4650 rpm at 110 kph.
Stock 15/41 is 4600 rpm at 110kph.
Max torque at 5000 rpm.
Max power at 6000 rpm.
I keep riding my TT350 like a DR650 but it maxs out torque at 6000 and power at 7000.
Must use more revs :scooter:
MXNUT
4th October 2011, 06:25
.
Stock 15/41 is 4600 rpm at 110kph.
Max torque at 5000 rpm.
Max power at 6000 rpm.
Do you have any figures for 14/41 ??
pete-blen
4th October 2011, 06:48
Do you have any figures for 14/41 ??
all but the same as 15/44 = 2.93:1 final drive ratio (4950rpm)
14/41 = 2.92:1 final drive ratio
the diffrents between the 2 ratios is less than 1/2 a tooth
Monstaman
4th October 2011, 06:58
I have found that the 14 tooth tames down pulses and makes it smoother than the 15 tooth mainly at the bottom end but it does make it nicer to ride.
Does anyone know if you can get 44T in 525 size?, we are going to run 14 / 44 on our trip (except the big long road runs 15/44) but can only get to 43T in 525
DR650gary
4th October 2011, 07:28
Do you have any figures for 14/41 ??
http://www.gearingcommander.com/
May help a bit.
NordieBoy
4th October 2011, 07:37
Do you have any figures for 14/41 ??
4500rpm @ 100kph
4950rpm @ 110kph
5th 4th 3rd 2nd 1st
Front Rear Rpm Kph Kph Kph Kph Kph
14 41 4500 100 83 67 51 34
14 41 4950 110 91 73 56 38
14 41 7800 173 143 116 88 59
15 41 4200 100 83 67 51 34
15 41 4600 110 90 73 56 37
15 41 7800 186 153 124 94 64
14 42 4600 100 82 67 51 34
14 42 5050 110 91 73 56 37
14 42 7800 169 140 113 86 58
15 42 4300 100 83 67 51 34
15 42 4750 110 91 74 56 38
15 42 7800 181 150 121 92 62
16 42 4050 100 83 67 51 34
16 42 4450 110 91 74 56 38
16 42 7800 193 160 129 98 66
17 42 3800 100 83 67 51 34
17 42 4180 110 91 73 56 38
17 42 7800 206 170 137 104 70
14 43 4700 100 82 66 51 34
14 43 5200 110 91 74 56 38
14 43 7800 165 137 110 84 57
15 43 4400 100 83 67 51 34
15 43 4850 110 91 73 56 38
15 43 7800 177 146 118 90 61
16 43 4120 100 82 67 51 34
16 43 4550 110 91 74 56 38
16 43 7800 189 156 126 96 65
14 44 4850 100 83 67 51 34
14 44 5300 110 91 73 56 38
14 44 7800 162 133 108 82 55
15 44 4500 100 82 67 51 34
15 44 4950 110 91 73 56 38
15 44 7800 173 143 115 88 59
16 44 4230 100 83 67 51 34
16 44 4650 110 91 73 56 38
16 44 7800 185 153 123 94 63
14 45 4950 100 83 67 51 34
14 45 5450 110 91 74 56 38
14 45 7800 158 130 105 80 54
15 45 4600 100 82 67 51 34
15 45 5050 110 91 73 56 37
15 45 7800 169 140 113 86 58
16 45 4300 100 82 66 51 34
16 45 4750 110 91 73 56 38
16 45 7800 181 149 120 92 62
14 46 5050 100 83 67 51 34
14 46 5550 110 91 73 56 38
14 46 7800 155 128 103 79 53
15 46 4700 100 82 67 51 34
15 46 5200 110 91 74 56 38
15 46 7800 166 137 110 84 57
16 46 4400 100 82 66 51 34
16 46 4850 110 91 73 56 38
16 46 7800 177 146 118 90 60
14 47 5150 100 82 67 51 34
14 47 5650 110 90 73 56 37
14 47 7800 151 125 101 77 52
15 47 4800 100 82 67 51 34
15 47 5300 110 91 73 56 38
15 47 7800 162 134 108 82 55
16 47 4500 100 82 67 51 34
16 47 4950 110 91 73 56 38
16 47 7800 173 143 115 88 59
14 48 5250 100 82 67 51 34
14 48 5800 110 91 73 56 38
14 48 7800 148 122 99 75 51
15 48 4900 100 82 67 51 34
15 48 5400 110 91 73 56 38
15 48 7800 159 131 106 81 54
16 48 4600 100 82 67 51 34
16 48 5050 110 91 73 56 37
16 48 7800 169 140 113 86 58
NordieBoy
4th October 2011, 08:09
I have found that the 14 tooth tames down pulses and makes it smoother than the 15 tooth mainly at the bottom end but it does make it nicer to ride.
Does anyone know if you can get 44T in 525 size?, we are going to run 14 / 44 on our trip (except the big long road runs 15/44) but can only get to 43T in 525
Jesse does a steel 45t
http://www.kientech.com/DR650ConvNstandardsprocketkits.htm
But a 15 on the front of that may be a bit dodgy and a 16 would require 2 more links.
14-15/43 should be sweet though and you can keep the stock chain.
Monstaman
4th October 2011, 08:29
Jesse does a steel 45t
http://www.kientech.com/DR650ConvNstandardsprocketkits.htm
But a 15 on the front of that may be a bit dodgy and a 16 would require 2 more links.
14-15/43 should be sweet though and you can keep the stock chain.
Yeah saw those, want to keep with 44 as it will stay within the factory chain guide at the bottom, I have a 45T 520 here and it requires the removal of the bottom block in the guide.
I run 14/43 at the mo for adv riding and 15/41 with the motard wheels
Spose we could always us a 520 sprocket with the 525 chain, would that cause any drama?
We want to keep the gearing lower as we will be looking out the window so speed is not a big requirement and with the old girls luggaged up the lower gearing will make it easier for Ellen to start etc especially on uneven ground
Transalper
4th October 2011, 09:39
You can get an adjustable chain guide, probably from Jessie again.
Eddieb
4th October 2011, 10:22
I see Mr Waihou Thumper and Nooles are scrapping over this old one.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-412122602.htm
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/96/189360696_full.jpg
Squiggles
4th October 2011, 15:40
Anyone got a set of trailwings they've swapped out? Might be taking the DR on a long trip next month and don't want to destroy a good set of tkc80s on the highway
DR650gary
4th October 2011, 15:48
Yep, basically brand new and will be in Auckland this week. PM me with an offer.
Cheers
dino3310
4th October 2011, 16:23
I see Mr Waihou Thumper and Nooles are scrapping over this old one.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-412122602.htm
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/96/189360696_full.jpg
jeese those 2 are just bike hores :laugh:
NordieBoy
4th October 2011, 16:28
Yeah saw those, want to keep with 44 as it will stay within the factory chain guide at the bottom, I have a 45T 520 here and it requires the removal of the bottom block in the guide.
I've been running 16/46 with the stock guide.
NordieBoy
4th October 2011, 16:30
I see Mr Waihou Thumper and Nooles are scrapping over this old one.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-412122602.htm
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/96/189360696_full.jpg
Pity it hasn't got the stock fairing.
nooles
4th October 2011, 16:36
Im hoping my spare DR Big tank will slip on and I'll make it into abit of a frankenstien.The rear carrier looks the same as the Big so maybe some parts are the same and its got 7 months rego that will save me having to reg that bloody KTM :shutup:
Eddieb
4th October 2011, 16:47
I believe the bottom end is the same but with a different cylinder and head.
The Pastor
4th October 2011, 18:10
oh if i had spare money!!!
bart
4th October 2011, 18:42
I have found that the 14 tooth tames down pulses and makes it smoother than the 15 tooth mainly at the bottom end but it does make it nicer to ride.
Does anyone know if you can get 44T in 525 size?, we are going to run 14 / 44 on our trip (except the big long road runs 15/44) but can only get to 43T in 525
For a long trip like that, I'd run odd numbers. Either 43 or 45 rear. Should last heaps longer....apparently.
Phreaky Phil
4th October 2011, 18:50
I have found that the 14 tooth tames down pulses and makes it smoother than the 15 tooth mainly at the bottom end but it does make it nicer to ride.
Does anyone know if you can get 44T in 525 size?, we are going to run 14 / 44 on our trip (except the big long road runs 15/44) but can only get to 43T in 525VSM does a 44 tooth for the 525 chain
http://www.vincestrangmotorcycles.com.au/dr.html
NordieBoy
4th October 2011, 19:24
For a long trip like that, I'd run odd numbers. Either 43 or 45 rear. Should last heaps longer....apparently.
Just not 15/45...
bart
4th October 2011, 19:35
Just not 15/45...
Ahhhh, true. You must be pretty good at maths eh?
Pikey
4th October 2011, 19:48
Just need a case saver now? Circlips make changing a breeze.
Monstaman
4th October 2011, 20:03
For a long trip like that, I'd run odd numbers. Either 43 or 45 rear. Should last heaps longer....apparently.
Yeah I know, trouble is to get that lower gearing, while staying within the OEM chain guide at the rear and without having to faf round with more chain links etc.
So unless I find a miracle way around it 15/44 for the big long hauls and 14/44 for the mountain and back road stuff.
We have access to chains and sprockets at the right price through our sponsors/supporters so that bit of extra wear does not faze me too much.
We need an extendable, retractable, deflatable, inflatable, narrowing and widening elongating and shortening drive set, could not find one in the right colour tho :violin:
pete-blen
4th October 2011, 20:28
For a long trip like that, I'd run odd numbers. Either 43 or 45 rear. Should last heaps longer....apparently.
Totaly correct..
never want sprockets or gears that will devide into each other...
sprockets/gears that don't devide into each other means that every
tooth on either sprocket will come in contact with every chain link
though X number of revalutions..means even/consisstant wear..
where devidable sprockets/gears won't do that...
you will never see a gearbox with devidable ratios for this reason..
Monstaman
4th October 2011, 21:03
Running a combo of 14/44 and 15/44 I think will be ok, ultimately for total chain and sprocket life odd would be best but ya can't deign ya life around total engineering perfection.
pete-blen, do you know what the % of wear running odds to evens is compared to odds to odds?
The Pastor
5th October 2011, 15:29
my bikes a bit hard to start when cold,
always have to use the choke, even if sitting in a warm garage.
always takes a long time to get going, holding the starter in for a solid 10-15 seconds with NO throttle, usually dose it after 3 or 4 attempts to start.
Is this typical? Apart from the spark plug, what other things can I look at to fix this? Or is this normal starting behaviour?
Monstaman
5th October 2011, 16:16
Or is this normal starting behaviour?
Mine does the same eh but always goes, my battery is gettin down a bit tho.
bart
5th October 2011, 16:44
If mines been sitting a while, a couple of small blips on the throttle to get some fresh gas through, full choke, and she'll fire every time. :woohoo:
Fuel goes off real quick these days. With my old DRZ400, I'd often have to manually drain the carb if sitting for more than a week.
NordieBoy
5th October 2011, 18:00
Yep. A couple of blips of throttle on the pumper carb and it's away. No choke, even in the winter.
I can only pull the choke on about 3mm anyway...
MXNUT
5th October 2011, 18:10
my bikes a bit hard to start when cold,
always have to use the choke, even if sitting in a warm garage.
always takes a long time to get going, holding the starter in for a solid 10-15 seconds with NO throttle, usually dose it after 3 or 4 attempts to start.
Is this typical? Apart from the spark plug, what other things can I look at to fix this? Or is this normal starting behaviour?
Pretty common complaint on all Suzuki`s that dont have a pumper carb.
Seems to take a lot of cranking to get the fuel sucked up into the carb air stream.
With a pumper carb as nordie says, 2 twists of the throttle and they fire into life straight away.
The Pastor
5th October 2011, 20:22
Pretty common complaint on all Suzuki`s that dont have a pumper carb.
Seems to take a lot of cranking to get the fuel sucked up into the carb air stream.
With a pumper carb as nordie says, 2 twists of the throttle and they fire into life straight away.
ah, so its a fuel/carby issue. Not really much I can do there?
NordieBoy
6th October 2011, 15:19
Anyone watch Qi last night?
Alan Davis (Jonathan Creek) has just had his DR650 stolen.
:scooter:
Eddieb
6th October 2011, 17:07
Running a combo of 14/44 and 15/44 I think will be ok, ultimately for total chain and sprocket life odd would be best but ya can't deign ya life around total engineering perfection.
pete-blen, do you know what the % of wear running odds to evens is compared to odds to odds?
At the bottom of the page on gearingcommander.com it gives some comparisons between the different gearing sets you have entered.
Night Falcon
6th October 2011, 17:35
Sorry to interupt all the valuable correspondance on this thread, but I thought it was about time someone chucked a picture on it for those of us who....well....only look at the pictures :sick:
http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy337/SpeedDaddy/33.jpg
me trusty old DR...we used to make beautiful music together :facepalm:
gav24
6th October 2011, 19:00
Anyone watch Qi last night?
Alan Davis (Jonathan Creek) has just had his DR650 stolen.
:scooter:
Surprised he had one, as they dont officially import them to the UK... must have been looking on here before purchasing his grey import and decided it was a better choice than a KLR...:woohoo:
...wrong choice, the theives would have walked past the KLR...:shutup::wings:
NordieBoy
6th October 2011, 20:08
Sorry to interupt all the valuable correspondance on this thread, but I thought it was about time someone chucked a picture on it for those of us who....well....only look at the pictures :sick:
http://i805.photobucket.com/albums/yy337/SpeedDaddy/33.jpg
me trusty old DR...we used to make beautiful music together :facepalm:
Banjo music of course for a yank DR650.
bart
6th October 2011, 21:02
Country Music of course for a yank DR650.
Yeah, it looks like the left hand drive model. :innocent:
Magnum Noel
10th October 2011, 20:42
Can anyone tell me what the micro switch on the carb is for. It gets activated at full noise. cheers
NordieBoy
10th October 2011, 20:47
Can anyone tell me what the micro switch on the carb is for. It gets activated at full noise. cheers
As far as we can tell, it retards the ignition. But you can't even see the difference on a dyno.
I removed mine.
Eddieb
10th October 2011, 20:57
As far as we can tell, it retards the ignition. But you can't even see the difference on a dyno.
I removed mine.
I was going to remove mine but the reality is how often do you actually hit full throttle?
NordieBoy
10th October 2011, 21:32
I was going to remove mine but the reality is how often do you actually hit full throttle?
Every time.
On the Dyno...
Oh, beach racing too...
Adventure riding and day to day use - never...
Team Buffoon
11th October 2011, 08:22
I was undecided about which make of soft panniers to buy when Clint and Rosie recommended the Andy Strapz ones, based on a few years of good service from theirs. So I bought them and used them with good results on an overseas trip but now I want to fit them to my DR, so I need a rack. But here's the rub I dont really like the look of the Andy Strapz racks they look a bit spindly to me. The Wolfman ones look tougher and the shape is more pleasing to me. Anyone fitted Andy Strapz panniers to a Wolfman rack? I am going to need a rear rack as well, preferably one that has some grabrail capability. Any NZ options? Any recommendations?
Eddieb
11th October 2011, 09:06
I was undecided about which make of soft panniers to buy when Clint and Rosie recommended the Andy Strapz ones, based on a few years of good service from theirs. So I bought them and used them with good results on an overseas trip but now I want to fit them to my DR, so I need a rack. But here's the rub I dont really like the look of the Andy Strapz racks they look a bit spindly to me. The Wolfman ones look tougher and the shape is more pleasing to me. Anyone fitted Andy Strapz panniers to a Wolfman rack? I am going to need a rear rack as well, preferably one that has some grabrail capability. Any NZ options? Any recommendations?
Are you coming on the AKD Gravel Riders Coro ride this weekend? You could have a look at my Wolfman Racks and maybe do a test fit. Wolfman have just released a new generation of their racks which is what I have.
Also, got a pic of that Duc single tank?
Rosie
11th October 2011, 12:12
I was undecided about which make of soft panniers to buy when Clint and Rosie recommended the Andy Strapz ones, based on a few years of good service from theirs. So I bought them and used them with good results on an overseas trip but now I want to fit them to my DR, so I need a rack. But here's the rub I dont really like the look of the Andy Strapz racks they look a bit spindly to me. The Wolfman ones look tougher and the shape is more pleasing to me. Anyone fitted Andy Strapz panniers to a Wolfman rack? I am going to need a rear rack as well, preferably one that has some grabrail capability. Any NZ options? Any recommendations?
With a bit of tweaking of the straps and clips, I imagine the andystrapz bags would fit onto most racks designed for soft bags. We've had ours on four different sets of home-made racks (all designed differently) without any trouble - although the bags sit a lot better if they don't sit too far below the bottom of the rack, so the side of the bag is well supported.
I can get some photos of my modified attachment points, if that would give you ideas of how the bags might be easily fiddled to fit onto a different set of racks.
Team Buffoon
11th October 2011, 13:28
Eddie TVM for the offer and will plan to take you up on that just need to check kids are sorted with my ex. Yes I am onto the tank will get out to mate's house next couple of days and retrieve the tank and send you some pics.
Rosie TY to you as well. Will see which way I decide to go and then will take you up on your offer. You guys coming up for the Coromandel trip this w/e?
Rosie
11th October 2011, 14:11
Rosie TY to you as well. Will see which way I decide to go and then will take you up on your offer. You guys coming up for the Coromandel trip this w/e?
Clint and I are off tramping this weekend, so won't be going on the coro trip.
If I get time this week, I'll get some photos of my luggage strap mods and post them up for you :)
Hmmm
11th October 2011, 14:40
Recently bought a DR650 and at the stage of adding a few goodies - screen, sump guard, luggage rack, bar risers so far and just about to add some lever protection in the form of Zeta protectors. Before I munt the throttle side I thought I'd ask for advice. What's the story with getting in to the bar end after removing the weight - there's a rubber washer and a solid threaded part in to which the end weight screws in to. Can anyone tell me how to remove this in order to replace with the Zeta screw and spreader device. Thanks in advance :yes:
Squiggles
11th October 2011, 19:25
If you don't make it to the ride you can try them on mine, i've got the now "old" generation wolfman racks on mine.
248365
The Pastor
11th October 2011, 19:31
If you don't make it to the ride you can try them on mine, i've got the now "old" generation wolfman racks on mine.
248365
whatis that big yellow bag thing?
Eddieb
11th October 2011, 19:52
whatis that big yellow bag thing?
A yellow bag?
Squiggles
11th October 2011, 20:03
Recently bought a DR650 and at the stage of adding a few goodies - screen, sump guard, luggage rack, bar risers so far and just about to add some lever protection in the form of Zeta protectors. Before I munt the throttle side I thought I'd ask for advice. What's the story with getting in to the bar end after removing the weight - there's a rubber washer and a solid threaded part in to which the end weight screws in to. Can anyone tell me how to remove this in order to replace with the Zeta screw and spreader device. Thanks in advance :yes:
Iirc you just loosen the screw on the end and that uncompresses the rubber bit allowing you to pull it out... You can usually fish the other bits out with wire if they're stuck inside
whatis that big yellow bag thing?
Wolfman saddlebags (http://www.procycle.us/bikepages/dr650.html#ex505)
socialites
12th October 2011, 07:49
I was undecided about which make of soft panniers to buy when Clint and Rosie recommended the Andy Strapz ones, based on a few years of good service from theirs. So I bought them and used them with good results on an overseas trip but now I want to fit them to my DR, so I need a rack. But here's the rub I dont really like the look of the Andy Strapz racks they look a bit spindly to me. The Wolfman ones look tougher and the shape is more pleasing to me. Anyone fitted Andy Strapz panniers to a Wolfman rack? I am going to need a rear rack as well, preferably one that has some grabrail capability. Any NZ options? Any recommendations?
Hey Guys, just another thought for those that are looking at equipping their bikes with soft panniers, to eliminate the need for racks ect, consider looking at the "Coyote Giant Loop Bag". They sell for about $500NZ and need to be bought out of the States. I have however used one as a template, did some mods on the one I had made, and it fits and works a treat. I can have these made for $300NZ with a two week delivery. Just a thought anyway.
Team Buffoon
12th October 2011, 08:37
Thanks to everyone who has responded re luggage etc. Planning on getting to the Coromandel ride this weekend so will check out your racks then Eddie pnaar pnaar!
bart
12th October 2011, 17:21
I use the cheap Oxford jobs. Just pull them forward onto the plastic side cover.
They expand out quite a way, and keep the weight low and forward.
http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af29/bart-nz/Cold%20Kiwi%202011/IMG_2667.jpg
http://i990.photobucket.com/albums/af29/bart-nz/Naki%20Nutters%20Liquifaction%20Tour%20May%202011/IMG_1230.jpg
Eddieb
12th October 2011, 20:41
This looks like a fairly good deal.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-414830141.htm
By my calculation reserve is about $5150
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/19/190459219_full.jpg
Monstaman
13th October 2011, 07:02
This looks like a fairly good deal.
I reckon, turn the key and push play mode!!
Rosie
13th October 2011, 12:24
I was undecided about which make of soft panniers to buy when Clint and Rosie recommended the Andy Strapz ones, based on a few years of good service from theirs. So I bought them and used them with good results on an overseas trip but now I want to fit them to my DR, so I need a rack. But here's the rub I dont really like the look of the Andy Strapz racks they look a bit spindly to me. The Wolfman ones look tougher and the shape is more pleasing to me. Anyone fitted Andy Strapz panniers to a Wolfman rack? I am going to need a rear rack as well, preferably one that has some grabrail capability. Any NZ options? Any recommendations?
To avoid clogging up the DR thread with pictures of lesser(!?) motorcycles, I've done a writeup on my luggage system on my Adventurisation thread (http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=17062324#post17062324)
Ender EnZed
13th October 2011, 14:09
This looks like a fairly good deal.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-414830141.htm
I reckon, turn the key and push play mode!!
I'm quite interested in it. Any opinions on what it might be worth?
EDIT: Obviously it's worth what someone is willing to pay, I'm wondering what similarly kitted DRs have sold for in recent memory.
Monstaman
13th October 2011, 14:29
I'm quite interested in it. Any opinions on what it might be worth?
EDIT: Obviously it's worth what someone is willing to pay, I'm wondering what similarly kitted DRs have sold for in recent memory.
My first instinct and dutchie approach is to ring him up and point out everything wrong with it, you will find something to whinge about :shifty: NEVER praise it
Second is to then lowball him after he is disappointed with his bike and make him feel good about your miserable offer.
If he calls you a bsatid and hangs up I had nothing to do with it :facepalm:
Seriously just look in the advanced options to see what is selling, buyers market a the mo, add up indicative value of goodies on the bike and halve that, add that to a bone stocker with similar kms and you have an indicative start point, then knock 5 hundy of that and call him.
Eddieb
13th October 2011, 14:29
I'm quite interested in it. Any opinions on what it might be worth?
EDIT: Obviously it's worth what someone is willing to pay, I'm wondering what similarly kitted DRs have sold for in recent memory.
I very recently paid $4500 for a mint '05 with 9000km's on the clock. Mine was stock apart from bar risers and different bars and I was very happy at that price.
The tank is ~$420 new, bark busters $150 or more, Ventura luggage probably $160, bash plate over $100, screen and headlight guard dunno but I would think probably at least $100 for the pair unless you're good enough to make your own.
So in round numbers there's ~$1000 worth of farkles on that bike.
Edit: Cycletreads are currently selling the Ventura racks for $210 http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/panniers-luggage/auction-406209821.htm
DR650gary
13th October 2011, 14:50
I'm quite interested in it. Any opinions on what it might be worth?
EDIT: Obviously it's worth what someone is willing to pay, I'm wondering what similarly kitted DRs have sold for in recent memory.
I sold an 07 fully stock to a dealer in March for $5500 so I would happily pay up to $5500 for this if I was in the market. Some of the after market bits were included with the bike in 07.
Looks like a good buy but expect a bit of interest so strike early :shifty:
Ender EnZed
13th October 2011, 15:02
My first instinct and dutchie approach is to ring him up and point out everything wrong with it, you will find something to whinge about :shifty: NEVER praise it
Second is to then lowball him after he is disappointed with his bike and make him feel good about your miserable offer.
If he calls you a bsatid and hangs up I had nothing to do with it :facepalm:
Seriously just look in the advanced options to see what is selling, buyers market a the mo, add up indicative value of goodies on the bike and halve that, add that to a bone stocker with similar kms and you have an indicative start point, then knock 5 hundy of that and call him.
I doubt he'd accept what I'd offer but it'll almost certainly reach reserve in which case it'll sell by auction. I'm hoping the other bidders know it's a buyer's market.
I very recently paid $4500 for a mint '05 with 9000km's on the clock. Mine was stock apart from bar risers and different bars and I was very happy at that price.
That sounds about right for an actual sale price rather than what most people ask for months on end. That said, this (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-409429710.htm) sat for months before it sold at full price.
The tank is ~$420 new, bark busters $150 or more, Ventura luggage probably $160, bash plate over $100, screen and headlight guard dunno but I would think probably at least $100 for the pair unless you're good enough to make your own.
So in round numbers there's ~$1000 worth of farkles on that bike.
Edit: Cycletreads are currently selling the Ventura racks for $210 http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/panniers-luggage/auction-406209821.htm
They are good farkles, a lot of them are things I'd end up spending money on if I bought a stock DR. Hmmmm, looks like I might need to go to Taupo this weekend.
Eddieb
13th October 2011, 16:00
I doubt he'd accept what I'd offer but it'll almost certainly reach reserve in which case it'll sell by auction. I'm hoping the other bidders know it's a buyer's market.
That sounds about right for an actual sale price rather than what most people ask for months on end. That said, this (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-409429710.htm) sat for months before it sold at full price.
They are good farkles, a lot of them are things I'd end up spending money on if I bought a stock DR. Hmmmm, looks like I might need to go to Taupo this weekend.
I'm passing through Taupo heading north tomorrow but not sure I'd have time to pop in and have a look.
Ender EnZed
13th October 2011, 16:12
I'm passing through Taupo heading north tomorrow but not sure I'd have time to pop in and have a look.
Thanks for the offer, additional eyes on a potential purchase are always valuable but it looks like he's busy tomorrow anyway. I'll ride up on Saturday for a look and try tempting him with some colourful paper.
bart
13th October 2011, 19:55
Thanks for the offer, additional eyes on a potential purchase are always valuable but it looks like he's busy tomorrow anyway. I'll ride up on Saturday for a look and try tempting him with some colourful paper.
That'll be a bloody good deal if it stays under $5500.
I'd think about it, but I'm starting to grow a hatred for DR's.
Padmei
14th October 2011, 12:17
FFS Now Nash of Kiwirider now rides one:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
I used to really like his columns...
Monstaman
14th October 2011, 12:44
FFS Now Nash of Kiwirider now rides one:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
I used to really like his columns...
Give up Padmei you are surrounded :D
Padmei
14th October 2011, 17:22
yeah but I'll go down swinging:shit:
Eddieb
17th October 2011, 21:36
Thanks for the offer, additional eyes on a potential purchase are always valuable but it looks like he's busy tomorrow anyway. I'll ride up on Saturday for a look and try tempting him with some colourful paper.
Congratulations on your new DR.
Maybe we should have a Welly DR night sometime soon.
DR650gary
18th October 2011, 08:01
I'm quite interested in it. Any opinions on what it might be worth?
EDIT: Obviously it's worth what someone is willing to pay, I'm wondering what similarly kitted DRs have sold for in recent memory.
Bargain, well done. Enjoy the ride home, just wait for a lack of rain.
You may want to consider this. You could gut it a bit more than it has been and it gives you a cheaper exhaust option than either an aftermarket or a GSXR one.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/exhaust/auction-415836692.htm
Ender EnZed
18th October 2011, 13:59
Congratulations on your new DR.
Maybe we should have a Welly DR night sometime soon.
:woohoo:
I'd be keen to meet some Welly adventure riders. I plan on doing a fair bit of riding well off any beaten track so it'd be good to hear some stories of where to look and what to expect.
Bargain, well done. Enjoy the ride home, just wait for a lack of rain.
You may want to consider this. You could gut it a bit more than it has been and it gives you a cheaper exhaust option than either an aftermarket or a GSXR one.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/exhaust/auction-415836692.htm
I should be riding it down this Saturday, with a detour up the Tukino ski field road to the gate and if it's still daylight maybe down Turakina Valley Road.
When I rode it last weekend I did find the standard exhaust note rather on the civilised side. Initially I just want to ride it rather than take it apart but it's going to get louder sooner or later.
DR650gary
18th October 2011, 15:12
:woohoo:
When I rode it last weekend I did find the standard exhaust note rather on the civilised side. Initially I just want to ride it rather than take it apart but it's going to get louder sooner or later.
Any good engineer should be able to modify that one for little cost. Cheapest option by a mile and you would have all the same mounting points as well.
Just remember to look at the jetting at the same time, although there are probably enough spare jets floating around this forum to rebuilt a dozen DR carbs :innocent:
badlieutenant
18th October 2011, 23:46
If you do want a cheap exhaust but the gsxr one's are too expensive or unobtainable you could try one off a zx10r . Im not sure what year zx0r but it was one of 2 for that bike. I'm pretty sure the one I got for 150$ is made of titanium (internals) as I would put its weight at around 1.3 kg's or so.
Sounds great and has that nice mix of nice idle note, civilised legal speed riding but when you twist the throttle open people know your there. I've left the cat in as I think it helps reduce noise and I don't think I would see a huge improvement flow wise.
gav24
20th October 2011, 15:28
Think I need to fess up to a hugely embarrasing thing...
For any KLR lurkers, its not owning a DR either - much worse!
Today I ran out of the same tank of fuel twice...:blink::facepalm:
A few weeks ago whilst seeing how far my bike will go to reserve with the new FCR carb I deliberately ran it to reserve, (170kms) I then switched it to reserve and foolishly zero'ed the trip. (you can already see it coming...)
It then sat in the garage getting a good spring service, valve clearances, oil, filter, etc.
Today was my first ride out and I checked the trip, forgot it was on reserve already and headed out, thinking I'll get fuel at Shannon:blink:...Didnt make Shannon:facepalm:
Thanks to Pikey for passing by, resisting his initial urge to give me the finger and speed past, then returning to his place for the trailer (I still hadnt realised it was fuel - I had checked the plugs and sidestand and clutch cut outs. I was racking my brains to what I had touched during the service that would cause the bike to cut out. So convinced was I that it had only done 50kms on its current tank)
It was only the final check when on the trailer of the fuel hose that I realised that nothing was coming out... check tank...Doh, F$#king, S$&t, B*((#r, etc etc:shit::facepalm:
And thanks to Sudman for riding to Shannon to meet me twice!
So here I sit confessing all and feeling a right knob!
Cool ride up to the reservoirs above Shannon though. In the end a good day!:sunny:
sudman
20th October 2011, 17:04
I like Shannon so much so I went there twice today, good thing I don't mind road riding:shifty:
Pikey
20th October 2011, 19:33
Haaaaa :Oops:
It was tempting to keep on driving seeing that I was working while you were riding. Beers on you next trip :drinknsin
Transalper
20th October 2011, 19:40
The Natural coloured semi transparent IMS tank will fix that, never be in doubt again.
Pikey
20th October 2011, 19:44
My yellow one should arrive tomorrow!!:2thumbsup
Won't help if no gas in it though
Transalper
20th October 2011, 19:45
Yep, ya can't see through the yellow ones.
My partner got herself a yellow one... something about matching colours with her bike.
I just wanted to see the gas level on mine.
Pikey
20th October 2011, 19:47
But not quite as ugly :)
Transalper
20th October 2011, 20:03
Might be better if petrol was a different colour.
sudman
20th October 2011, 20:15
Now there's idea yellow petrol
I would need blue to suit my bike and Gavin could have black
Shewolf
21st October 2011, 01:46
you stuck on of these on didn't you Eddie? Work ok? Get anything off the ground much?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=416909246
pomgolian
21st October 2011, 08:51
I purchased the bike on trademe advertised at $ 6995 offered him $ 5500 which he declined eventually agreed on $ 6200 then found out he let the rego lapse for 12 moth so it was de-registered :shit: so i ended up giving him $ 5660 and then registered it myself. Told him to pull the add but he wanted the buy now used to secure the deal.
QUOTE=Ender EnZed;1130174529]I doubt he'd accept what I'd offer but it'll almost certainly reach reserve in which case it'll sell by auction. I'm hoping the other bidders know it's a buyer's market.
That sounds about right for an actual sale price rather than what most people ask for months on end. That said, this (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-409429710.htm) sat for months before it sold at full price.
They are good farkles, a lot of them are things I'd end up spending money on if I bought a stock DR. Hmmmm, looks like I might need to go to Taupo this weekend.[/QUOTE]
Eddieb
21st October 2011, 09:22
you stuck on of these on didn't you Eddie? Work ok? Get anything off the ground much?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=416909246
'George' the yellow bike came with one fitted. With the bike in the factory lowered suspension setup it lifted the rear wheel off the ground by an inch or so. Not much but enough to lube the chain or get the wheel off fairly easily.
It's not a bolt up solution either looking at mine. You need an adapter plate made up for them. If you go back to to near the beginning of my DR build thread there's pics of my setup.
Ender EnZed
23rd October 2011, 11:59
I should be riding it down this Saturday, with a detour up the Tukino ski field road to the gate and if it's still daylight maybe down Turakina Valley Road.
Well I got the DR home yesterday but I seem to have started breaking it already. The bracket that holds the left rear indicator/ grab rail has snapped off from the frame. I don't think it was like that when I picked it up as I didn't notice anything while attaching my (small, 2-3kg) bag to the pack rack. Any suggestions?
DR650gary
23rd October 2011, 12:10
Well I got the DR home yesterday but I seem to have started breaking it already. The bracket that holds the left rear indicator/ grab rail has snapped off from the frame. I don't think it was like that when I picked it up as I didn't notice anything while attaching my (small, 2-3kg) bag to the pack rack. Any suggestions?
Got a pic?
Ender EnZed
23rd October 2011, 13:23
Got a pic?
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DR650gary
23rd October 2011, 13:46
Damn, looks like more wear then tear so I doubt it would have lasted a lot longer. Easy fix if you have a welder, just have to pull it half apart to get at it.
In the short term, you could undo the bolt and make 2 metal plates to span the gap, drill a hole in the middle, put a small fold in each one and use the threaded part of the indicator to clamp the 2 together. Make sense? Like the pic below. If you have some alloy bar, a drill and an extra nut you should be good to go in half an hour.
http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/ae242/DR650gary/oops1.jpg
sudman
23rd October 2011, 14:42
I can fix that for you no problem if ever up Palmy way.
Ender EnZed
23rd October 2011, 15:31
I couldn't resist going for a ride, thinking that since I rode 400km yesterday another 50km today wouldn't hurt. When I got home I discovered that the broken bracket and bolt had vibrated loose. For optimum facepalm I've just looked at my own photo and realised there was no nut on the bolt.:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
Damn, looks like more wear then tear so I doubt it would have lasted a lot longer. Easy fix if you have a welder, just have to pull it half apart to get at it.
In the short term, you could undo the bolt and make 2 metal plates to span the gap, drill a hole in the middle, put a small fold in each one and use the threaded part of the indicator to clamp the 2 together. Make sense? Like the pic below. If you have some alloy bar, a drill and an extra nut you should be good to go in half an hour.
Not entirely, but unfortunately I have none of those anyway.
I can fix that for you no problem if ever up Palmy way.
I'm up there quite regularly actually but I'm hoping to get it sorted before riding that far. Eddieb has offered to take a look at it for me so with a bit of luck I'll work something out this week.
DR650gary
23rd October 2011, 15:55
Unplug CDI and disconnect battery if using the welder thingy :innocent:
Pedrostt500
23rd October 2011, 19:45
The reason it is dead it has a broken cam chain, and due to lack of funds the REG is dead.
the broken cam chain is my fault.
So is any one wanting a parts bike, and can make a reasonable offer, note the word reasonable.
DR650gary
23rd October 2011, 21:52
The reason it is dead it has a broken cam chain, and due to lack of funds the REG is dead.
the broken cam chain is my fault.
So is any one wanting a parts bike, and can make a reasonable offer, note the word reasonable.
Not worth resurrecting?
Bent valves etc?
Cheers
NordieBoy
23rd October 2011, 22:01
Not worth resurrecting?
Bent valves etc?
Cheers
Yeah, what's shot?
DR650gary
23rd October 2011, 22:24
I had a mate helping me with some building work here a few years ago. His best years were behind him but his favourite phrase was "I can fix it".
I feel the same way about bikes, although I have been wrong :innocent:
NordieBoy
23rd October 2011, 23:53
I had a mate helping me with some building work here a few years ago. His best years were behind him but his favourite phrase was "I can fix it".
Please tell me his name wasn't Bob.
JATZ
24th October 2011, 07:22
I had a mate helping me with some building work here a few years ago. His best years were behind him but his favourite phrase was "I can fix it".
I feel the same way about bikes, although I have been wrong :innocent:
Please tell me his name wasn't Bob.
:sunny:
http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp201/ztaj/avatar5488_38.gif
:niceone:
DR650gary
24th October 2011, 07:38
:sunny:
http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp201/ztaj/avatar5488_38.gif
:niceone:
I know, it used to make me laugh when he said it. I used to say why fuck it up in the first place but I'm not a builder :facepalm:
Monstaman
25th October 2011, 07:20
Any suggestions?
I suggest it has been broken for quite some time looking at the surface rusty bits and just hanging on, would be hard to see up under there, easy fix anyway, maybe a great opportunity to improve on Suzuki and lengthen and strengthen a new bracket.
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