The DR650 thread

[Pikey]

Get a Cycleworks!!:2thumbsup

[Eddieb]

This is uummmm 'interesting', it's got a huge amount of mods for a bike thats done less than 500km's since 2009..

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-493698816.htm

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/75/223816975_full.jpg

[NordieBoy]

This is uummmm 'interesting', it's got a huge amount of mods for a bike thats done less than 500km's since 2009..

Wow.

Pumper, header, pipe, footpegs, bars, headlight, front guard, speedo, braided front and rear lines, seat, speedo eliminator...

$4,500 :wacko:


Weird footpegs but.

[Eddieb]

You missed rear mudflap eliminator, grab rails removed and dinky indicators.

[dino3310]

thought it looked a bit suss for that price... or it could be a good bargain

[Eddieb]

Actually, the rear subframe has had all the tabs removed also. No rear footpeg mounts or toolbox/helmet lock/grab rail mounts.

[Waipukbiker]

Gday, Hopefully I will be in a position soon to join the "DR Mob" and get a 650, Was wondering if anyone knows if there are any Service Manuals available that cover the later models.

Cheers

[pomgolian]

Hi send me a PM and can email you a PDF copy

Paul

[fridayflash]

This is uummmm 'interesting', it's got a huge amount of mods for a bike thats done less than 500km's since 2009..

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-493698816.htm

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/75/223816975_full.jpg




yeah.............i kinda thought that bike was a bit of a weird buy...perhaps a jap import
or a crash damaged and rebuilt one?
still cheap enough buy for someone, btw...could anybody decipher the signature on the seat?

[NordieBoy]

btw...could anybody decipher the signature on the seat?

Joey S*ll*ns?

[Waihou Thumper]

$4500, reserve met.....the guy rang and got the low down, so that suggests he was happy. Good on him, some of us were just speculating...guessing...bugger, it has been snapped up. :)

[R650R]

Went for wander up Kawekas last week to test range with 3.8L fuel container from bunnings ($9.95 bargain), hit reserve today at 247km. Pretty happy with that.

[Waipukbiker]

Dont quite understand what you meant, was that your tank plus the container for that range or was that just the main tank?

[Mo NZ]

"Went for wander up Kawekas" Comet Hut Road?

[Eddieb]

Went for wander up Kawekas last week to test range with 3.8L fuel container from bunnings ($9.95 bargain), hit reserve today at 247km. Pretty happy with that.

Nice, care to elaborate on where that is? Cardboard box doesn't tell us much.

[bart]

Nice photo. Must be Comet hutt area to get that elevation. If not, I need to do more exploring.

[R650R]

whittle rd, not far past the quarry by lotkow rd. There is a sign saying Kaweka rd closed due to extreme snow and ice but no barrier so went for a nosey. If you look on google maps just before whittle becomes kaweka rd there is a track up to the right sign posted as scenic lookout. BTW there was a big dropout just before the end of lotkow rd covering 3/4 of the lane marked by two warratah stakes and some flouro mesh.
Heaps of space up at that lookout spot, be good place for group ride or mini rally if DOC would ok with a controlled camp there. Official helipad site too if you ever want to leave the forest without your bike!

The tank was just on the back for extra traction, just kidding... 247 to reserve was with the 3.8 added in during the journey. The standard 13L tank hits reserve after 10L which so far has been between 160-200km depending on riding style. Wanted an Acerbis 20L tank but had a think and don't need the extra range often enough to justify the cost. Usually want to get off that 4x2 seat after a couple hundred Km's anyway.

[Waipukbiker]

Thanks for that, will be looking around for a DR650 soon I hope so was interesting to find out what the approximate range is on a standard tank .

[Team Buffoon]

Found this site tonight have not read it all but a lot of info in here about what has worked for him and what hasn't. Worth a look if you have not found it already.

http://shortwayround.co.uk/suzuki/

[R650R]

Found this site tonight have not read it all but a lot of info in here about what has worked for him and what hasn't. Worth a look if you have not found it already.

http://shortwayround.co.uk/suzuki/

Yeah good write up there although more orientated towards the full monty across africa setup. The guy has some good ideas and info though.
This site has some good reviews on most of the DR650 farkles available...

http://www.webbikeworld.com/suzuki-dr650/blog.htm

[fridayflash]

Thanks for that, will be looking around for a DR650 soon I hope so was interesting to find out what the approximate range is on a standard tank .

im getting about 19 kms per litre. so hitting reserve around 190km
and dry tank at about 245-250 ish
altho i did hit reserve at 138 km after a particularly hard thrash up the
napier taupo and into minginui via pohokura road
the result was dry tank at 180km not far outa murupara
i carry a 5L of fuel on the carrier which has so far negated
the need for an ims or similar tank...but i still want one!@!!

[Eddieb]

A different way to mod a DR

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[Pikey]

Gloves dr is on trademe

[dino3310]

A different way to mod a DR



wicked that looks cool, only problem is now it handles like a KLR:devil2:

[caselogic]

yeah.............i kinda thought that bike was a bit of a weird buy...perhaps a jap import
or a crash damaged and rebuilt one?
still cheap enough buy for someone, btw...could anybody decipher the signature on the seat?

The signature says 'Barry Sheene'

There was nothing wrong with the bike - just an ongoing project to re-create a modern day BSA B50 - there was much more to do, carbon bodywork, 18" rims - the project was only half finished. All the modifications took over 20kg off the weight, which, along with the pie and carb mods (all the parts were brand new) made it quite quick for a DR.

How do I know all this? It is my bike - it has been 'stolen'. I still have one of the ignition key's, some of the bits taken off, oh, and all the paperwork! I am presently in discussion with Interpol on the best way of proceeding- so if you know who bought it - better warn them. The last thing I want to do is get a fellow biker into trouble.

[NordieBoy]

How do I know all this? It is my bike - it has been 'stolen'. I still have one of the ignition key's, some of the bits taken off, oh, and all the paperwork! I am presently in discussion with Interpol on the best way of proceeding- so if you know who bought it - better warn them. The last thing I want to do is get a fellow biker into trouble.

CarJam says "never been reported stolen".

How "stolen"?

[Pikey]

Easy to contact buyer through trademe?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-493698816.htm
And seller as has current listing.

[caselogic]

The signature says 'Barry Sheene'

There was nothing wrong with the bike - just an ongoing project to re-create a modern day BSA B50 - there was much more to do, carbon bodywork, 18" rims - the project was only half finished. All the modifications took over 20kg off the weight, which, along with the pie and carb mods (all the parts were brand new) made it quite quick for a DR.

How do I know all this? It is my bike - it has been 'stolen'. I still have one of the ignition key's, some of the bits taken off, oh, and all the paperwork! I am presently in discussion with Interpol on the best way of proceeding- so if you know who bought it - better warn them. The last thing I want to do is get a fellow biker into trouble.

I have all the photos of the build. Many of the mods were made by myself, this is the rear brake pedal and footrest. The black bolts were replaced with titanium ones (1.25 threads - difficult to obtain). All the mods were mainly to reduce weight, and it was not meant to be 'off-road'.

[caselogic]

CarJam says "never been reported stolen".

How "stolen"?

as in - it was not theirs to sell, I am the registered owner. It is not reported as stolen- yet.

[caselogic]

Easy to contact buyer through trademe?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-493698816.htm
And seller as has current listing.

I can't - been advised not to contact the buyer or seller. I am in Oz now.

[Ender EnZed]

Have you talked to the NZ Police about the situation?

[caselogic]

Have you talked to the NZ Police about the situation?

Yep - they can not do anything as I am in Oz - that is why it has to go through Interpol.

[NordieBoy]

Yep - they can not do anything as I am in Oz - that is why it has to go through Interpol.

Oz or NZ citizen?

[caselogic]

Oz or NZ citizen?

neither. Joined the site to give a warning - only just found out. TBH, I would never buy such a new bike without seeing sales receipts, handbook, all keys, etc - did the person not realise something was wrong!!!!! If a bike is cheap, and the seller is desperate.........ask some @#$%ing questions.

Getting more and more pissed over this.

[fridayflash]

bloody hell!! sorry to hear of it, sounds a bit of a mess
the seller was in my town of napier, i had never seen the
bike around, good luck mate

[JATZ]

A different way to mod a DR

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Why ?.... a.d.d. perhaps...., been at the fanta and jellybeans :shit:

Good work though

[Padmei]

neither. Joined the site to give a warning - only just found out. TBH, I would never buy such a new bike without seeing sales receipts, handbook, all keys, etc - did the person not realise something was wrong!!!!! If a bike is cheap, and the seller is desperate.........ask some @#$%ing questions.

Getting more and more pissed over this.

Umm.. I'm missing something here. did they steal it from your house or something or was it left at a 'mates place'?

I personally wouldn't be that suspicious if i was buying off Trademe.

[Pikey]

Anyone fitted one of these to their DR??? Stebel Nautilus http://www.bikebits.co.nz/contents/en-uk/p11769.html
Need something to keep dumb arse car drivers at bay!!??:angry:

[NordieBoy]

Anyone fitted one of these to their DR??? Stebel Nautilus http://www.bikebits.co.nz/contents/en-uk/p11769.html
Need something to keep dumb arse car drivers at bay!!??:angry:

Space is a concern with the Nautilus.
Even the Magnum needs wiring to the battery.

The Magnum is 132dB as it is...

[Pikey]

Does the magnum need a relay?
Have you fitted one?

[gav24]

Anyone fitted one of these to their DR??? Stebel Nautilus http://www.bikebits.co.nz/contents/en-uk/p11769.html
Need something to keep dumb arse car drivers at bay!!??:angry:

Wow!
You been cut up and need to exact revenge?<_<
or is it really for the cats that keep crapping on the lawn!:angry:

132db - I'd be wearing ear defenders when fitting that mother!:eek5:

[NordieBoy]

Does the magnum need a relay?
Have you fitted one?

Years ago. It needs a relay.
Wasn't as loud as expected, so I took it off and hooked it up to a battery.........

Fuck.

Maybe that's how I got tinnitus?

[Pikey]

Will probably just fit louder standard type just need to make my presence known and displeasure if not seen!

[JATZ]

I was chatting to Nerdneh last weekend and it turns out he has a carbon fibre Termignoni (?) muffler sitting in his shed, all ready to be bolted onto someones DR. It came off a DR650 so all the muckin about's been done. He also has some other odds and ends lying around so asked if I could let yous fullahs know.
If you want to know more flick him a p.m. http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/member.php/15144-nerdneh , or I may be able to pass on his phone number

[dino3310]

mrs jatz could fit it to her DR:msn-wink:

[NordieBoy]

I was chatting to Nerdneh last weekend and it turns out he has a carbon fibre Termignoni (?) muffler sitting in his shed, all ready to be bolted onto someones DR. It came off a DR650 so all the muckin about's been done. He also has some other odds and ends lying around so asked if I could let yous fullahs know.
If you want to know more flick him a p.m. http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/member.php/15144-nerdneh , or I may be able to pass on his phone number

Whatever you do, don't shake the Termi or weigh it...

Looks cool but.

[Ally67]

Hmmm let me have think about that idea.......nah yeah...NO :-P

[NordieBoy]

Hmmm let me have think about that idea.......nah yeah...NO :-P

Stick it on the Tenere or DR350 in your profile...



You nicked the laptop tonight? :D

[JATZ]

Stick it on the Tenere or DR350 in your profile...



You nicked the laptop tonight? :D
Wotchu doin checking out her profile ?....:D

[dino3310]

Wotchu doin checking out her profile ?....:D

better than looking at yours:killingme

[NordieBoy]

Wotchu doin checking out her profile ?....:D
She picks on me less than you.

Only marginally mind you...

:lol:

Yours just says Euro trash.

[Ally67]

better than looking at yours:killingme

Well said:killingme:
You can look anytime :msn-wink:

[Ally67]

She picks on me less than you.

Only marginally mind you...

:lol:

Yours just says Euro trash.

Don't stop I'm enjoying this :killingme:

[TangoCharlie]

Anyone got a spare set of standard 21 & 17 inch wheels for a DR they want to sell?

[mylodon]

hey just got a dr650 to replace my lovely but no longer with me klr.

can anyone suggest the best place to buy crap for it like
- brush guards (it has plastic flaps at the moment)
- engine guards (... ok. on my klr they were required to protect the fairing ... and i did go over the handlebards enough .. will see on the suzuki)
- new seat (probably will just get a corbin but am worried a bit about the weight)
- rear rack
- and most importantly, above all else, where can i get a nice durable HDPE milk crate to strap onto that rack on the back - don't want to have to buy this from the US!

also if anyone from wellington is around any comments on wellington motorcycle's suzuki service -- though i'll probably stick with boyle kawasaki since they are great folk even though i am no longer with kawasaki. :(

[mylodon]

gas tank... something around 20 liters.... so i can drive places.
something that will pass wof and won't melt in the sun.

[NordieBoy]

Anyone got a spare set of standard 21 & 17 inch wheels for a DR they want to sell?

Maybe :shifty:

I had a road set and dirt set for the DR but now my dirt set has a built in 350cc engine.

[NordieBoy]

Procycle or Kientech are the places to shop.

The Corbin is a very heavy beastie, Procycle do other options.
IMS tank.

What colour milk crate?

You're turning it into a KLR.

You need to detox first.


hey just got a dr650 to replace my lovely but no longer with me klr.

can anyone suggest the best place to buy crap for it like
- brush guards (it has plastic flaps at the moment)
- engine guards (... ok. on my klr they were required to protect the fairing ... and i did go over the handlebards enough .. will see on the suzuki)
- new seat (probably will just get a corbin but am worried a bit about the weight)
- rear rack
- and most importantly, above all else, where can i get a nice durable HDPE milk crate to strap onto that rack on the back - don't want to have to buy this from the US!

also if anyone from wellington is around any comments on wellington motorcycle's suzuki service -- though i'll probably stick with boyle kawasaki since they are great folk even though i am no longer with kawasaki. :(


gas tank... something around 20 liters.... so i can drive places.
something that will pass wof and won't melt in the sun.

[TINA RAY]

hey just got a dr650 to replace my lovely but no longer with me klr.

can anyone suggest the best place to buy crap for it like
- brush guards (it has plastic flaps at the moment)
- engine guards (... ok. on my klr they were required to protect the fairing ... and i did go over the handlebards enough .. will see on the suzuki)
- new seat (probably will just get a corbin but am worried a bit about the weight)
- rear rack
- and most importantly, above all else, where can i get a nice durable HDPE milk crate to strap onto that rack on the back - don't want to have to buy this from the US!

also if anyone from wellington is around any comments on wellington motorcycle's suzuki service -- though i'll probably stick with boyle kawasaki since they are great folk even though i am no longer with kawasaki. :(



OMG ! WHY did you do that to yourself..........:shutup:

....just got some brush guards for $32 from China.

They are $60 on Trademe.

....I haven't a clue how to do a LINK, sorry...

[TINA RAY]

[QUOTE=NordieBoy;1130388743

You're turning it into a KLR.

You need to detox first.[/QUOTE]





As they say on KB.....'wot he said'.....

[mylodon]

well i smashed in the side of my oil radiator. bike fell over and hit something.

pfft.

i guess non-klr bikes are expected to be disposable.


also, surprisingly, it's got a strangely stiff feeling to it. i've felt this on a ttr as well. the klr you could flick around but these things you have to wrassle if you don't want to go straight. i guess that's a part of having a shorter bike?

but... it handled so much better at red rocks. it's so tiny in comparison. like a toy bike.

[mylodon]

hmm. not good to hear that corbins are heavy for dr650s because it was probably the best upgrade i did to the klr... rode from sf to LA to yosemite to SF on the stock seat and nearly lost the use of my lower body. but with the corbin - no longer any kind of problem sitting for any kind of time - even the 8hr auk-wellington run.

if the police only recovered the corbin and the milk crate i'd be much less unhappy.

[mylodon]

grey milk crate ... got any?

can't pick up my groceries without a milk crate.

[JATZ]

hmm. not good to hear that corbins are heavy for dr650s because it was probably the best upgrade i did to the klr... rode from sf to LA to yosemite to SF on the stock seat and nearly lost the use of my lower body. but with the corbin - no longer any kind of problem sitting for any kind of time - even the 8hr auk-wellington run.

if the police only recovered the corbin and the milk crate i'd be much less unhappy.

Sargent (?) seats are pretty good I hear, there was a dealer selling them on trademe, about $600 :gob:
I tried an airhawk but didn't like the way it disconected you from the bike.
If you were a proper KLRista you'd take to the DR seat with some old kapok an some ductape and call it fixed.

[gav24]

hey just got a dr650 to replace my lovely but no longer with me klr.

can anyone suggest the best place to buy crap for it like
- brush guards (it has plastic flaps at the moment)
- engine guards (... ok. on my klr they were required to protect the fairing ... and i did go over the handlebards enough .. will see on the suzuki)
- new seat (probably will just get a corbin but am worried a bit about the weight)
- rear rack
- and most importantly, above all else, where can i get a nice durable HDPE milk crate to strap onto that rack on the back - don't want to have to buy this from the US!

also if anyone from wellington is around any comments on wellington motorcycle's suzuki service -- though i'll probably stick with boyle kawasaki since they are great folk even though i am no longer with kawasaki. :(

Welcome to the DR fold!
-I have zeta hand guards fitted and some of their bars as well, the std ones are made of chocolate strength metal and sweep too far back anyway. Any other alloy type guards with bolt on plastic guards are good - try trade me or any off road dealer can get em.
-I was gonna say dont bother with engine guards (side bar type contraptions) and go for an alloy bash plate - I have a recycled road sign but you can get a proper one - again TM. there is a KBer who makes em - GPcustoms??? But seeing as you have already munted the oil cooler then maybe they're a good idea:shit: - I'm sure a local engineer could custom build some...?
-Std seat is ok I find - and will take just about any weight:yes::facepalm:
- Not sure about rear racks as I bungy my big tank on there - 5 litre plastic fuel can!

As for welly motorcycles, seems fine to me, I bought the bike from them and havent bought much else from them so I'm not the best to ask really. Most of my goodies have come from Procycle in the states (Carb, pipe) and they have been excellent.

Have fun with the detox!:scooter:

[mylodon]

i tried the duct tape thing but the bike was perpetually exposed to elements so i needed something better.
the corbin was really nice. i need them to make me an office chair.

or maybe i just need to quit my job and get on the road....

[mylodon]

ok one more question

on my klr if i went through the sand bits past red rocks i'd be going slow and sometimes quite deep and at high rpms. mainly because it was a bit heavy and sometimes the sand was extra fluffy (or i got too far into the surf).

so couple times i had some issues where it'd get hot. these happened normally because the fan stopped working for whatever reason. so i'm a little bit nervious in the sand.

in any case -- i don't particularly like sand but i find myself in it often enough when i leave the pavement.

and now! with an equivalent engine in the dr650 -- i'm excavating sand like a champ but i have no fan! no coolant! it's surreal. I assume the engine just runs hotter and deals with it? if there are any problems it'll seize to let me know what's going on?

never had an air cooled engine before. it's scarey!

[Mo NZ]

I got my seat fixed buy ordering a new seat foam and cover from Seat Concepts. You use the seat base and glue on the new foam and staple on the cover. Around $200nz landed. That left $400 for other stuff.

[Waipukbiker]

Just been having a look through the Procycle and keintech sites, jeez, what a range of bits for the Dr650, Are there any agents for them in NZ or is it cheaper to get it direct from the States? (Hopefully will have a DR650 soon)

[NordieBoy]

Just been having a look through the Procycle and keintech sites, jeez, what a range of bits for the Dr650, Are there any agents for them in NZ or is it cheaper to get it direct from the States? (Hopefully will have a DR650 soon)

Get direct. Only takes a week.

I've been waiting 3 weeks for a cam chain for my TT350 ordered locally.

[dino3310]

That keintech a bloody good one, the ol girl dosent muck around getting the parts to you.
i got a torque limiter for the starter from there.... they had none in stock so they ordered one ex Japan and it took 3weeks from when i made the phone call to get to my door. Suzuki over here told me 6-7weeks ex japan. only cost $125 from Kientech and was gonna cost $379 from Suzuki:blink:
hard to beat good service and pricing.

[cruza]

How does keintech ship? Just got stung $52us shipping from procycle for jet kit and bar raisers, asked for piority parcel but it was still sent express......
slightly pissed off.

[dino3310]

my $125 part cost $26.90 USPS.
was quite a while ago though, seems every bodies postage fees and shit has gone up since then

[pete-blen]

How does keintech ship? Just got stung $52us shipping from procycle for jet kit and bar raisers, asked for piority parcel but it was still sent express......
slightly pissed off.


I have noticed the shiping cost can very so much on simular items from diffrent surplyers..
I wonder if some try to pockets a few extra $ on the shiping prise they charge overseas
customers..

XT660 skid plates are a prime exsample...
OTR will ship to NZ for 35pound
Metal mule want 105pound..
the plates are of simular size & weight..

[mylodon]

I'm looking at over $220 in shipping from procycle... but i bought the special KLR conversion pack.

A little worried I'll be stung by customs.

[Howie]

I'm looking at over $220 in shipping from procycle... but i bought the special KLR conversion pack.

A little worried I'll be stung by customs.

If your total cost is over NZ$400 (products + shipping) then you well probably end up getting a GST Bill, and maybe a

Import entry transaction fee, which includes a Biosecurity fee. Have a look around http://www.customs.govt.nz/inprivate/sendingitemstonz/Privateimportsbypost/Pages/default.aspx

[mylodon]

ugh - that's the price of life here.

thanks for the heads up - i've got my paperwork in order now.



If your total cost is over NZ$400 (products + shipping) then you well probably end up getting a GST Bill, and maybe a

Import entry transaction fee, which includes a Biosecurity fee. Have a look around http://www.customs.govt.nz/inprivate/sendingitemstonz/Privateimportsbypost/Pages/default.aspx

[TangoCharlie]

Come on mate, you know you want too! Sell those old wheels that are taking space in your garage! I need a spare set?

[NordieBoy]

Come on mate, you know you want too! Sell those old wheels that are taking space in your garage! I need a spare set?

A rear without cush went for $397.75 on Wed on TM :shifty:

Just saying...

:innocent:

[TangoCharlie]

A rear without cush went for $397.75 on Wed on TM :shifty:

Just saying...

:innocent:

I know, I was watching it, auction went mad in the last hour, two guys fighting over it....

[mylodon]

ok dr650 folks. gonna get a bigger tank soon.

where to take it from welly?

the bike seems so tiny, so lightweight; almost got blown away today. would love to take a long trip and then jump into a mess someplace. there must be something near lake wairarapa?

i have some old continentals on the bike so i got to wear them off and then get new ones. or maybe i'll go back to kenda they were ok -- less slippery.

[Eddieb]

ok dr650 folks. gonna get a bigger tank soon.

where to take it from welly?

the bike seems so tiny, so lightweight; almost got blown away today. would love to take a long trip and then jump into a mess someplace. there must be something near lake wairarapa?

i have some old continentals on the bike so i got to wear them off and then get new ones. or maybe i'll go back to kenda they were ok -- less slippery.

If the weather is fine next Sunday I might head out to Ocean Beach for a play.

[Waipukbiker]

Does anyone know where the extenders for the standard mirrors can be brought from?, Ive seen them advertised somewhere but buggered if I can remember where.

Re raised bar mounts, Im bang on 6 ft, is there a common lift height that other 6 footers-ish have found to be ok, i see they come in a range of sizes but would rather not have to experiment If I can help it.

Hope to have a DR650 within a week.

Cheers

[Shewolf]

There can be only one..... Procycle

[Eddieb]

I'm 5'9" and have 25mm footpeg lowering brackets and had 25mm bar risers. I wasn't happy with the bar height when standing so picked up up a set of Powermadd 50mm risers with my last Procycle order. I find them much better when standing though they did feel a bit odd for the first while when seated. They can be roatated forward a bit also.

http://www.procycle.us/images/bikepages/dr650/riser_powermadd.jpg

[Night Falcon]

I have a young freind who is looking to get into adv riding and likes the look of this...http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-512487159.htm

or this.....
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-507897296.htm

I'm thinking the white one would be the best plus it meets lams approval with the stock muffler. Any of you DR crew know how much the adv tank and seat combo is worth?

[Eddieb]

I have a young freind who is looking to get into adv riding and likes the look of this...http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-512487159.htm

or this.....
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-507897296.htm

I'm thinking the white one would be the best plus it meets lams approval with the stock muffler. Any of you DR crew know how much the adv tank and seat combo is worth?

There's also this one, it has the tank already: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/152795-Suzuki-DR650-Adventure-Bike

[Waipukbiker]

This one has just been sold, http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-507897296.htm
A new home has been found for it where Im sure it will be much appreciated.
That new home just happens to be in my shed:woohoo:

[Waipukbiker]

Ooops, Thanks for the info re the bar risers.

[Night Falcon]

There's also this one, it has the tank already: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/152795-Suzuki-DR650-Adventure-Bike

Cheers I'll pass on the info



This one has just been sold, http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-507897296.htm
A new home has been found for it where Im sure it will be much appreciated.
That new home just happens to be in my shed:woohoo:

:Punk: thats great news Ross, when will ya have her ready for a test spin?

[Waipukbiker]

I need to get some riding practise in first, especialy on shingle before the next ride here which is on the 6th (Check HB Ride outs).

Im surprised that bike stayed on for as long as it did as I thought the price was very fair comparing it with most of what else there was on offer. Im very interested to see if the seat is original, hard to tell from the pics but it looks lower than stock, the guy who owned it is the
2nd owner and has very little idea about tyres etc, he couldnt tell me what brand or type of tyres are on it and has only used it to commute to work. I wanted something with stock intake and exhaust so I can try it first like that then mod if I want to.

Re the tank and seat combo, Freedom Suzuki had a set on display about a month ago and from memory it was worth about $1200, prob a bit cheaper from the States or Ebay etc.

[R650R]

I need to get some riding practise in first, especialy on shingle before the next ride here which is on the 6th (Check HB Ride outs).

Im surprised that bike stayed on for as long as it did as I thought the price was very fair comparing it with most of what else there was on offer. Im very interested to see if the seat is original, hard to tell from the pics but it looks lower than stock, the guy who owned it is the
2nd owner and has very little idea about tyres etc, he couldnt tell me what brand or type of tyres are on it and has only used it to commute to work. I wanted something with stock intake and exhaust so I can try it first like that then mod if I want to.

Re the tank and seat combo, Freedom Suzuki had a set on display about a month ago and from memory it was worth about $1200, prob a bit cheaper from the States or Ebay etc.

Congrats on getting the bike. I'm 185cm 6ftish and find the standard bar and mirror positions ok. Bunnings have some nice sized 3.7L tanks for $9.95 that will keep you going till you get a tank. The seats and tanks prob cost about the same ex usa once you pay shipping and customs/gst. There was an aussie outfit that had the acerbis tanks at a good price if you have friends travelling with large suitcases/carry on space! (ie import as secondhand/private gift etc.)

You will definately want to bin the stock exhaust in favour of absolutely any other option. You don't realise how badly they strangle the engine till you replace them. Also removes a heap of weight. I'm very biased in favour of the DG Oval can and midpipe, good value and ok noise wise with reducer.

[Waipukbiker]

Yeah, Each to their own, I need to ride it first and go from there, I pick it up on Sunday so then its a matter of seing how it suits me, Im very much in favour of having both feet flat on the ground as well which i can do on the lowered height so i may do that yet.
So on that subject , has anyone got a lower sidestand they are willing to part with?

[DR Girl]

This one has just been sold, http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-507897296.htm
A new home has been found for it where Im sure it will be much appreciated.
That new home just happens to be in my shed:woohoo:

Yep, that bike was mean't to be yours Ross :-)
Awesome & congrats :woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

[Eddieb]

Had a google today and found a few pics of the prototype Safari fairing fitted to a bike, no pics of the final version though which is different in places.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7056/6933199687_2b986666cb_z.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7055/6787084600_70c60a4fdc_z.jpg http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7060/6787085596_c45a7c05ea_z.jpg

[Woodman]

[QUOTE=Eddieb;1130397300]Had a google today and found a few pics of the prototype Safari fairing fitted to a bike, no pics of the final version though which is different in places.

/QUOTE]

Bigger fuel tanks, frame mounted fairings? why didn't you just get a KLR in the first place?:shutup:

[GSers]

[QUOTE=Eddieb;1130397300]Had a google today and found a few pics of the prototype Safari fairing fitted to a bike, no pics of the final version though which is different in places.

Should have kept your BMW

GSers

[Eddieb]

Bigger fuel tanks, frame mounted fairings? why didn't you just get a KLR in the first place?:shutup:

Cause it's still way cooler than a KLR. Plus I test sat on a KLR or 2 and they weren't significantly smaller than the 950, too big and top heavy for me.

The fairing attaches to the tank but not to the frame.


Should have kept your BMW

It's still the better part of 80kg's lighter than the PD and does suit me better.

[Waipukbiker]

As soon as I saw the pic it reminded me of a Storm Trooper from Star Wars.

I personally prefer the naked look ( on trail bikes anyway)

[BIG RED PETE]

Yep, that bike was mean't to be yours Ross :-)
Awesome & congrats :woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:


...meant....

[BIG RED PETE]

As soon as I saw the pic it reminded me of a Storm Trooper from Star Wars.

I personally prefer the naked look ( on trail bikes anyway)


I think they look nice

but, how much....?

[Eddieb]

...meant....

and the purpose of that post was?

I see you've made 5 posts on KB and 4 of them are negative/derogatory and very unhelpful.

[Eddieb]

I think they look nice

but, how much....?

No listed price yet. Rumour is ~$1070Aus including the 30 ltr tank.

[BIG RED PETE]

No listed price yet. Rumour is ~$1070Aus including the 30 ltr tank.


Thats bludy ridiculous :facepalm:


Typical overprised Safari products

[dino3310]

Thats bludy ridiculous :facepalm:


Typical overprised Safari products

do you own a DR650 as well as a BRP

[BIG RED PETE]

I would not own a piece of shit 650......but I like KLR's:laugh:

[Waipukbiker]

So whaddya doing in this thread then.

[BIG RED PETE]

So whaddya doing in this thread then.

I take pleasure in viewing all the PROBLEMS and endless questions you owners have.

The DR650 is a trail bike....if you want the ADV version, Suzuki makes the XF650 Freewind, just for yous fullas.....FUNNY THAT:laugh:

I have a perfect bike.....rather boring...:confused:

[nzspokes]

I take pleasure in viewing all the PROBLEMS and endless questions you owners have.

The DR650 is a trail bike....if you want the ADV version, Suzuki makes the XF650 Freewind, just for yous fullas.....FUNNY THAT:laugh:

I have a perfect bike.....rather boring...:confused:

You also seem to have been banned Tony.

[Waihou Thumper]

You also seem to have been banned Tony.


:wings: :woohoo:

[Waipukbiker]

HEY TONY, How would you like to combine sex with travel?????????

You would????

Ok, we will grant your wish

F$CK OFF

[Eddieb]

If you want a DR650 supermotard this is the one to get.

Never sold in NZ, CCM was a UK company that used the DR650 motor with a high compression piston in their own frame and running gear.

53hp, 137kg. I think these's are twin carb so it might use the Freewind head.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/dual-purpose/auction-513849048.htm

Starting bid $5000, no reserve.

http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/94/230902894_full.jpg

[NordieBoy]

If you want a DR650 supermotard this is the one to get.

Never sold in NZ, CCM was a UK company that used the DR650 motor with a high compression piston in their own frame and running gear.

53hp, 137kg. I think these's are twin carb so it might use the Freewind head.

Whole Freewind engine.

Here's their earlier Rotax powered one back in 2003...
<img src=http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/dirt/2003-02-09-Golden%20Bay%20-%20Old%20Thumpers/slides/ccm-moto2.jpg>
<img src=http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/dirt/2003-02-09-Golden%20Bay%20-%20Old%20Thumpers/slides/ccm-moto1.jpg>


A CCM DS644 would be a good adventure steed.
A DR650 with a good frame, suspension and more power...

[Waipukbiker]

Has anyone got a side stand to suit the DR650 in the lowered position thats willing to part with it?

Cheers

[Night Falcon]

Has anyone got a side stand to suit the DR650 in the lowered position thats willing to part with it?

Cheers

Hacksaw welder!


By the way...the support vehicle following those trumpers almost took me out on a blind corner just after I left you this morning. He came round the corner way to fast with a trailer on with a conked out triumph on it, freaked out when he sore me locked up the brakes and skidded through the corner, my front wheel stopped 3inchs from the passangers door:gob: It was actually quite nostalgic recalling the events of my life flashing before me so in a way I owe him a favour <_<

[Waipukbiker]

Cheers mate, I will be passing that on to the club captain.
There is no need for that sort of driving when the driver was fully aware that there were bikes on the road.

[humphrt]

Hey found this on drriders.com looks pretty cool I think.

270152

[NordieBoy]

Hey found this on drriders.com looks pretty cool I think.

I prefer the other one on that thread...

[humphrt]

The 'quadlight' setup?
270166

Not so keen on that, looks a bit too much like the droids you are after

[NordieBoy]

The 'quadlight' setup?
Not so keen on that, looks a bit too much like the droids you are after

Nope, the other single light setup.

[Waipukbiker]

Rear spring preload adjustment, I understand that the rear should not sag more than 25% of the available travel with the rider seated, is this correct?

[NordieBoy]

Rear spring preload adjustment, I understand that the rear should not sag more than 25% of the available travel with the rider seated, is this correct?

8-12% or so unloaded and 20-30% loaded according to "Dual Sport Suspension".
My rear is in the ballpark with me at 85kg and a 7.6kg spring.

[Eddieb]

Whole Freewind engine.

A CCM DS644 would be a good adventure steed.
A DR650 with a good frame, suspension and more power...

What did they do to them to get so much power?

[Waipukbiker]

Ok, another queastion, Mine is an 09 and the rear spring is black, Do the spring colours have anything to do with the rates?
The spring is in the top hole but the preload is wound down to nearly the bottom of the threads so Im on tippy toes and Im 6ft.

Ive sat on a 650 with the spring in the top hole (lowered) and both feet were flat on the ground easy.

[NordieBoy]

What did they do to them to get so much power?

Steroids.



And a worked head...

[Ocean1]

Whole Freewind engine.

Here's their earlier Rotax powered one back in 2003...

A CCM DS644 would be a good adventure steed.
A DR650 with a good frame, suspension and more power...

They orta have stuck with the B50.

Only lighter.


And with less maintenance.



And no fucking Amal carbs...

[Eddieb]

Ok, another queastion, Mine is an 09 and the rear spring is black, Do the spring colours have anything to do with the rates?
The spring is in the top hole but the preload is wound down to nearly the bottom of the threads so Im on tippy toes and Im 6ft.

Ive sat on a 650 with the spring in the top hole (lowered) and both feet were flat on the ground easy.

No difference in spring rates between different colour factory springs that I am aware of. Though it sounds to me like your spring might be wound up further than factory recommended settings if it's pretty much at the bottom of the threads.

If you can measure the length of the spring in it's current state compare it to the factory settings below:
Factory soft - 253.5mm
Factory Medium - 247.5mm
Factory Hard - 238.5mm

If you are looking to do anything more than smooth gravel roads you should get used to not being able to flat foot it, if the bike is lowered enough to flat foot it you will bottom it out on bumpier terrain. DAMHIK.

[Waipukbiker]

Cheers mate, ive backed the preload off so the spring is now approx 240 mm, I'm about 100kg so will try it there and see. The rear shock is in the top hole but the front forks are flush with the top of the brace, not sure how to tell if the front forks have been lowered internally, The bike dousnt look like its too high in the front but then im still a noob with the beast.

[Waipukbiker]

Ok, First decent ride on the beast today with a mixture of twisty seal, city streets and heading back home on the main highway the main tank ran out at
142 kms, It didnt help that I was on an uphill passing lane at the time:facepalm: I was about 4kms from a servo and it took 9.5 ltrs to refill. As far as I know the bike is stock (Still has the snorkle in), The gearing is 15/43.

I was expecting better range than that as I was not riding hard. I will pull the air cleaner out tomorrow and check it but it runs fine so not sure why its a tad thirsty.

Any ideas?

Cheers

[dino3310]

14.9kms a litre..... ouch

[bart]

That seems a bit rich. Even worse than my thirsty pig.

[Shewolf]

eeeuuuw, I did that sort of km/l coming back from Cold Kiwi with a full load and a strong headwind. :(

[Night Falcon]

Ok, First decent ride on the beast today with a mixture of twisty seal, city streets and heading back home on the main highway the main tank ran out at
142 kms, It didnt help that I was on an uphill passing lane at the time:facepalm: I was about 4kms from a servo and it took 9.5 ltrs to refill. As far as I know the bike is stock (Still has the snorkle in), The gearing is 15/43.

I was expecting better range than that as I was not riding hard. I will pull the air cleaner out tomorrow and check it but it runs fine so not sure why its a tad thirsty.

Any ideas?

Cheers

Ross, mine used to get 180 - 200 ks depending on how hard It was riden. If you only put 9.5 ltrs in it to fill you must of still had some gas in the tank? Have you checked your fuel tap isn't blocked on the reserve position?

[Waipukbiker]

I filled it to the brim before I left, The main ran out at 142 kms and after switching to the free flow position to refill the bowl, I went to reserve and it started ok and after about 5 kms, It took 9.5 ltrs to refill back to the brim.
The air filter is out at the mo, its much darker on the outside than in and very wet with oil at the bottom, will clean it tomorrow and re oil. Because the main is supposed to hold 10 ltrs im starting to wonder if it stopped for some other reason.
I will also check that the choke is adjusted correctly and remove one of the plugs to see if there is any sign of running rich.
The odo may be reading under but not that much I think.

[pomgolian]

Ross, mine used to get 180 - 200 ks depending on how hard It was riden. If you only put 9.5 ltrs in it to fill you must of still had some gas in the tank? Have you checked your fuel tap isn't blocked on the reserve position?

Ross must be a blocked filter or running really rich mine did on stock with snorkell removed 240km havelock - minginui - Lake wiakari before fill up 240kms think it was 11.5 litres to fill up so half a litre left, thought it was going to run out long before that as i hit reserve a long way from the lake, i did the procycle jet kit & it got better on fuel & more power.

[Waipukbiker]

Yeah, its a bit odd, if it was running very rich the idle would be crap but its fine, be interesting to see how the plug looks.
The only other thing is one of the previos owners may have re jetted the carb without allowing more air to get in to compensate so Ill keep that in mind if a filter clean dousn,t change anything.

[pomgolian]

Yeah, its a bit odd, if it was running very rich the idle would be crap but its fine, be interesting to see how the plug looks.
The only other thing is one of the previos owners may have re jetted the carb without allowing more air to get in to compensate so Ill keep that in mind if a filter clean dousn,t change anything.

Check the choke brass plunger in the carb as well as mine was seized solid after 10,000k and the choke lever hardly moved so it maybe seized on sucking the gas and the idle turned down to compensate

[Waipukbiker]

Cheers mate, The choke feels fine, Im getting a normal reaction from the engine as I move it back to the off position after starting.
I will check that its fully returning to the off position though. It cranks over a few times before starting from cold but instant when warm.
Once Ive done the air cleaner I will pull the snorkle out and do about 50kms and recheck the consumption.

I will also contact the last owner and see what he was getting out of a full tank just as a double check.

[bushy]

I have just fitted the Procycle replacement foam and cover to my seat base and have to say first impressions are pretty good. I havent been for a long ride yet but my arse is already thanking me...1600kms in 3 days during Dusty Butt 2012 on the stock seat was enough to get me looking at alternatives. $149.00 US , It will be worth every cent.

Also got the HID conversion kit as got caught out in the dark and rain 2 hours from home a while ago and the stock lights are very bloody average. Will let you know how the fitting of kit goes and the difference it makes. At $80.00 US its worth a shot. Took a week to get here after placing the order. Great communication so thumbs up to Procycle.:niceone:

Cheers,

[Transalper]

I found the DR light to be fine and I road all hours of the night but I've seen the light Shoshoni's DR puts out with the HID and it is impressive.
I think you'll be happy.

[R650R]

I found the DR light to be fine and I road all hours of the night but I've seen the light Shoshoni's DR puts out with the HID and it is impressive.
I think you'll be happy.

Same here. The one time I thought hmmm maybe these guys are right about the light I stopped and sure enough it was covered in crud. I make a habit of wiping the headlamp with a damp rag whenever I stop. Even when its raining you get a build up of road muck quickley that robs the light power. I've done this on trucks cars and bikes and makes a difference along with clean windscreen, visor and spectacles if your wear them.
But extra lights are always good!

[Waipukbiker]

Just a catch up on my problem with fuel range, I have since cleaned and re oiled the filter and removed the snorkle.
The carb is stock with a 140 main jet and the bike starts and runs sweet.

yesterday I did a mixture of main highway, (100kmh max)twisty seal and shingle and the main ran out at 162 kms, I did another 6 kms on reserve to get home and decided to drain the tank to see what was left in it. I opened the petcock on the central position and got 1.5 ltrs out. I then removed the tank and shook about a cupfull out. I then refilled the tank from a big container counting in a ltre at a time and it took 11.5 ltrs to fill it from dead empty. So much for a 10 ltr main and a 3ltr reserve. Maybe it was a friday afternoon tank when it was made.

The bike came with a very nice B&B mounting plate on the back and I have fitted 2 Army ammo boxes, The larger one is an exact fit for a 5 ltre fuel container which can also be secured in place (padlocked). The smaller box is mounted on its side under a modified ventura pack frame and is a fully weather proof and lockable toolbox.
When I learn how to post pics on here I will take some of it.

[NordieBoy]

I always thought it was a 10+2L tank stock?

[Eddieb]

Mine is 10 litre main and I thought 2 ltr reserve but I've never tested it.

[Waipukbiker]

just rechecked the owners manual for the bike and it says 10 plus 3.
I'm going to change the oil next even though the last owner said he had just done it.
Had a chat with the manager of the local Suzuki dealer and he said change the oil and make sure its a 10w rating because they have had a lot of complaints from farmers about thirsty quadbikes and they have found that they all had a 15w oil in and the difference in the oil drag between a 10w and a 15w was enough to make a noticeable difference in fuel consumption so its worth a try. The 10w is also a semi synthetic where as the 15w is a mineral oil.

[mylodon]

i was getting ~120km a tank not including reserve

have a 20l tank now, will see how far it goes.

[Eddieb]

i was getting ~120km a tank not including reserve

have a 20l tank now, will see how far it goes.

I hope that's a typo, 120 km?

George gets 180-200km on the main tank.

[mylodon]

i think there's something funky with the jetting. not sure. haven't tried to dig into jetting yet.

i'd love to get 200km

i was getting 500km on the klr, so it's sounding like a lot of gas station stops right now.

[Eddieb]

At that rate you're getting about 12km/l so with a 20 litre tank you're looking at about 240km.

If you check out the Fuelly link in my signature I've found that handy for tracking mileage and you can see when a change has made an improvement. On my blue DR I started at about 16km/l when I fitted my FCR carb, I'm now up to a bit over 18 and there's more to come.

I'm in Maungaraki out in the Hutt and am happy to take a look at things for you if you want.

[Waipukbiker]

Im currently on 16kms/ltr doing a mix of main highway, twisty seal and shingle. Bike is stock with just the snorkle off and now running a 14t c/s sprocket which is an extra 300 rpm at 100 km/h. Still not quite sure if Im getting the full 10 ltrs from the main.
Will take a spare 10ltrs with me one day and run the main out and see what it takes to refill.

The 14t has made it a lot easier to ride around town, much easier to make nice smooth gear changes, will tractor away from low revs without chunking, especially when standing up on the pegs on shingle, lot less clutch slippage when taking off in 1st.
Also found overtaking on the road is now much better as I dont need to change down at say 80kmh, before the engine would get real chunky in 5th at that speed if you put some power on where as now its happy at 80km/h in 5th and just pulls hard to whatever speed you need to get past.
Im happy to trade off a bit of fuel consumption for what is proving to be a nicer bike to ride.
Works for me anyway.

[NordieBoy]

I'm effectively running 14/43 and get about 18-19km/l.

[Eddieb]

On my blue DR ..... I'm now up to a bit over 18 and there's more to come.


Im currently on 16kms/ltr doing a mix of main highway, twisty seal and shingle. Bike is stock with just the snorkle off and now running a 14t c/s sprocket which is an extra 300 rpm at 100 km/h.


I'm effectively running 14/43 and get about 18-19km/l.

I'm running 15/43, snorkel removed and airbox opened slightly, TL1000 exhaust.

[bart]

I'm getting about 18.5lt/100km. She's almost a straight pipe at the moment and has plenty of other mods. It used to struggle pulling the 15 tooth front, but since the engine rebuild, has no problems.

It's making good power so I guess fuel economy is the trade off.

Ross, next time we meet up, take it for a spin.

[NordieBoy]

I'm getting about 18.5lt/100km.

You may want to check your numbers...

Not that I don't believe you, or you're dodgy or anything, but your eyes are close together...

[Eddieb]

i think there's something funky with the jetting. not sure. haven't tried to dig into jetting yet.

i'd love to get 200km

i was getting 500km on the klr, so it's sounding like a lot of gas station stops right now.

Bring it over on Tuesday night and me some other riders. Check the Wellington Rideouts thread.

[bart]

You may want to check your numbers...

Not that I don't believe you, or you're dodgy or anything, but your eyes are close together...

18.5km/litre then? Nah, that seems too good. I'd better go do some more sums.

So how's your banjo picking coming along?

[mylodon]

Bring it over on Tuesday night and me some other riders. Check the Wellington Rideouts thread.


would really like to but it's a struggle getting out of work earlier then 7.
i think the last rideout started around 6ish.

tell you what though this DR has a lot more kick then the KLR.

and it's a hell of a lot louder. embarassingly loud. there's a little harley in it somewhere.

[Eddieb]

would really like to but it's a struggle getting out of work earlier then 7.
i think the last rideout started around 6ish.

tell you what though this DR has a lot more kick then the KLR.

and it's a hell of a lot louder. embarassingly loud. there's a little harley in it somewhere.

This is beer and pizza and talking crap about adventure riding, not a ride. Turning up after 7 is fine. Everyone normally hangs around till 10:30 ish.

[NordieBoy]

This is beer and pizza and talking crap about adventure riding, not a ride. Turning up after 7 is fine. Everyone normally hangs around till 10:30 ish.

So, a standard adventure ride with slightly less chance of falling over?

[dino3310]

Chur... beer pizza and bike BS.... almost worth a trip to Welly for that,
sorry i missed ya last visit Eddie, i got caught up with the whanau

[Eddieb]

Chur... beer pizza and bike BS.... almost worth a trip to Welly for that,
sorry i missed ya last visit Eddie, i got caught up with the whanau

No worries Dino. I'll probably do a BBQ up there in the New Year sometime.

[cruza]

Hi NordieBoy . Seem to be clued up on the jetting side.
Got a procycle jet kit instead of dJ .

Is the needle same profile as dynojet?
going to open up top of airbox and got a open exhaust for it. 145 or 150 main jet, what you reckon?

[dino3310]

No worries Dino. I'll probably do a BBQ up there in the New Year sometime.

sweet bro...
im building a new deck over the next month, will have a deck shout at the end of it, i'll flick ya a PM when its a go-er and if your around you can help us christen it:drinknsin

[Tigerpig]

GPSs change so quickly, I can't keep up. Anyone care to recommend the current "one" to look for. Garmin Zumo? Or what else. I've used old style number crunching variety on boats, but never had one on a bike before. I'm looking for something for off road trails, eg DB1k etc.

[NordieBoy]

GPSs change so quickly, I can't keep up. Anyone care to recommend the current "one" to look for. Garmin Zumo? Or what else. I've used old style number crunching variety on boats, but never had one on a bike before. I'm looking for something for off road trails, eg DB1k etc.

Find an older Oregon 300 or 60CSx (the 300 has a much better screen) if you don't mind the smaller screen GPS's and something like the Nuvi 500 for bigger screen but not as good off-road.

Of the new ones, I'd go for a Garmin Montana...

[NordieBoy]

Hi NordieBoy . Seem to be clued up on the jetting side.
Got a procycle jet kit instead of dJ .

Is the needle same profile as dynojet?
going to open up top of airbox and got a open exhaust for it. 145 or 150 main jet, what you reckon?

According to Procycle, the needle is the same as the Dynojet.
An opened airbox, exhaust, drilled slide, needle 3rd clip from top, 150 main and mixture screw to suit would be a good start point.
Probably just have to raise or drop the needle a clip to fine tune.
Our fuel runs a little richer than theirs. Sometimes we can get away with a leaner needle setting or even a smaller main jet size than they recommend.

[Magnum Noel]

Has anyone had any experience either good or bad with front fork seal savers or fork skins or what ever they are called??

[Ocean1]

Has anyone had any experience either good or bad with front fork seal savers or fork skins or what ever they are called??

They work a treat, keep the dirt away from the seals. Right up until they don't, then they keep the dirt in and your selas will be cut out in minutes.

Seriously, they're good as long as you take 'em off and clean and inspect inside there regularly.

[NordieBoy]

I got some long ones and the neoprene has started falling apart after 2 years.
Mine are the 1 piece, stitched together ones - no velcro. Love them.
Nothing has got inside them at all.

<img height=640 src=http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20100927%20ForkSkinz/slides/20100927-155643.jpg>

[Waipukbiker]

Where can you get those "ADV" stickers from mate?

[Magnum Noel]

I got some long ones and the neoprene has started falling apart after 2 years.
Mine are the 1 piece, stitched together ones - no velcro. Love them.
Nothing has got inside them at all.

<img height=640 src=http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20100927%20ForkSkinz/slides/20100927-155643.jpg>

Fran where did you get those ones from. The ones on T.M are the wrap around velcro type at about $33

[NordieBoy]

Fran where did you get those ones from. The ones on T.M are the wrap around velcro type at about $33

Not sure where I got them...

They're long Sealsavers for 80cc bikes (up to 43mm forks).

[Waipukbiker]

Need some help here, I removed the starter to lube the rear bush, to do this I removed the cam tensioner housing from the back of the engine, it came out as a unit but now I cant get it to go back in, I can feel the bar or whatever it is in there that the plunger pushes against but it needs to go back in about 15 mm to allow the tensioner to go right back in. I tried to push against the bar in there but it feels solid.
Any help would be much appreciated.

Cheers

[pete376403]

Is there a bolt with locknut projecting out of the side of the tensioner somewhere? In most cases you loosen the locknut, push the plunger right in against the spring then nip up the bolt to hold the plunger. Once the tensioner is installed on the engine, release the bolt to allow the plunger to press in against the chain, tighten the locknut to stop the bolt falling out.

[Magnum Noel]

Need some help here, I removed the starter to lube the rear bush, to do this I removed the cam tensioner housing from the back of the engine, it came out as a unit but now I cant get it to go back in, I can feel the bar or whatever it is in there that the plunger pushes against but it needs to go back in about 15 mm to allow the tensioner to go right back in. I tried to push against the bar in there but it feels solid.
Any help would be much appreciated.

Cheers

Remove the bolt which will reveal a small screw. Turn screw [can't remember which way] which will retract spring and plunger. refit to bike with new gasket or if the old one is ok a little grease. Once on bike turn screw which will release spring/plunger and then refit bolt.

[Waipukbiker]

Thanks for that, yeah, you turn the screw anticlockwise all the way until locks, this retracts the plunger right back into the housing, once the housing has been refitted, just turn the screw slightly and it releases the plunger.

The starter has a needle roller bearing in the front so it was the bush at the back that was making all the noise, a bit of grease and its a happy starter again.

Thanks again

[NordieBoy]

Remove the bolt which will reveal a small screw. Turn screw [can't remember which way] which will retract spring and plunger. refit to bike with new gasket or if the old one is ok a little grease. Once on bike turn screw which will release spring/plunger and then refit bolt.

Yep, once the arm is retracted, turn it a little more and it'll "click" and hold there. Undo it once it's mounted and it'll come back out again like it's been soaking in viagra.

[Waipukbiker]

Hell yeah, did it ever, just tickled the screw and it wound itself out with a bang.
Nordie, where did you get that "ADV" sticker from mate?

[Transalper]

....
Nordie, where did you get that "ADV" sticker from mate?

Try there at ADV Rider... http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=257578
First post has the info and PayPal stuff.

[NordieBoy]

Hell yeah, did it ever, just tickled the screw and it wound itself out with a bang.
Nordie, where did you get that "ADV" sticker from mate?

Pooey gave it to me.

[mylodon]

i was getting ~120km a tank not including reserve

have a 20l tank now, will see how far it goes.

265km on a 20l tank.

hmm.

[Eddieb]

265km on a 20l tank.

hmm.

To reserve or empty?

[bart]

265km on a 20l tank.

hmm.

That's about what I get to reserve with my 17L IMS when riding hard.

[Magnum Noel]

265km on a 20l tank.

hmm.

I got that with the std 13ltr tank. Was sweating though.

[dino3310]

265km on a 20l tank.

hmm.

13.25km per litre:eek5: same as my ford festiva

[Waipukbiker]

Has anyone fitted one of those HID light kits?

[NordieBoy]

Has anyone fitted one of those HID light kits?

Yes.

But the one I got, the light was focussed too low and the high beam didn't work.
The solenoid pulled the bulb back and the light turned off :rolleyes:

Although an HID on dip isn't to be sneezed at...

[mylodon]

To reserve or empty?

to reserve... i filled it up ~17.5 liters after.
i only have a single petcock and the tank isn't transparent so i'm not quite sure how much is left on the right side.

[Eddieb]

to reserve... i filled it up ~17.5 liters after.
i only have a single petcock and the tank isn't transparent so i'm not quite sure how much is left on the right side.

So 15.14 km/l. A little better but still terrible.

My offer still stands, if you want someone to have a look at it bring it by my place, we could have a Welly dr riders garage afternoon/evening with your bike as the victim patient.

[badlieutenant]

I have the 16 ltr acerbis tank on mine and hardish road riding for 260kms (reserve had just kicked in) was 9ltrs (exhuast and airbox mods with new jetting, oh, and the carb slider mod)

On a different topic has any one fitted rm250 (1988, cartridge) forks to their dr and used a calliper adapter to shift the stock calliper mounting point to suit the larger rotor of the dr ? I've googled it a fair bit, but cant get any hits.

[Eddieb]

On a different topic has any one fitted rm250 (1988, cartridge) forks to their dr and used a calliper adapter to shift the stock calliper mounting point to suit the larger rotor of the dr ? I've googled it a fair bit, but cant get any hits.

I'm in the process of doing this with DRZ 250 forks. There's nothing you can buy off the shelf that I found so I had a local engineer make an adapter made up.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=263861&d=1337418925

[Waipukbiker]

There are now 2xDR650 in Hawkes Bay that have got a glitch in the Low Beam circuit while riding as in the light just cuts out for a while or wont go at all. Each time Ive gone out to see if I can find a fault it works fine:( To save some time, has anyone else struck this and what have ya found.

Cheers

[NordieBoy]

Nope. Haven't heard anything like that happening before.

[R650R]

There are now 2xDR650 in Hawkes Bay that have got a glitch in the Low Beam circuit while riding as in the light just cuts out for a while or wont go at all. Each time Ive gone out to see if I can find a fault it works fine:( To save some time, has anyone else struck this and what have ya found.

Cheers

An intermittant fault like that is usually from wires chaffing. It doesn't always have to be high km's either if somethings been wrongly cable tied to wrong spot, too tight or too loose. Least on a bike there's a lot less length of wire to check than the loom or airlines of a linehaul truck. Have they replaced any bulbs previously? Some people aren't kind to connections when unplugging stuff.

[Waipukbiker]

Yeah, Will have to work my way through the system to track it down, because the same thing is happening on 2 separate bikes I just thought that there may have been a common issue on these bikes.

[cruza]

Having few problems with new jetting. put procycle kit in . open airbox and open exhaust . seems to start cold ok , but no go at all when hot. 150 mikuni main jet , and needle on 4th clip. stumbled when opened throttle until revs picked up then it was away. seemed to idle ok with pilot mixture screw 2 1/2 turns out. revs dropped below 2 turns out.
I'm thinking pilot jet to lean? any thoughts.

[NordieBoy]

Having few problems with new jetting. put procycle kit in . open airbox and open exhaust . seems to start cold ok , but no go at all when hot. 150 mikuni main jet , and needle on 4th clip. stumbled when opened throttle until revs picked up then it was away. seemed to idle ok with pilot mixture screw 2 1/2 turns out. revs dropped below 2 turns out.
I'm thinking pilot jet to lean? any thoughts.

Pilot (almost) never needs changing.

It may pay to check if it's clear though. Doesn't take much to block it, especially if the carbs been out.

4th from top or bottom?

[cruza]

Pilot (almost) never needs changing.

It may pay to check if it's clear though. Doesn't take much to block it, especially if the carbs been out.

4th from top or bottom?

Took it all apart again and blew compressed air thru it . noticed some crap in line filter so put new one in , and problem disappeared . must have been block/ fuel starvation.

Slight surging now at 1/8-1/4 throttle , but pulls clean rest of the range, made big difference from stock settings! , just have to tinker next few days with needle settings

[Waipukbiker]

Ok, to save me wading through miles of threads, Ive just pulled the slide out of mine and the clip is in the 2nd from bottom position which could explain why its been a tad thirsty plus at the bottom of the slide there is another hole through the bottom which lines up with one of the internal grooves in the slide. Is this hole standard and what is the stock clip position?
If the snorkle is removed (Which it is at the mo) does the clip have to be dropped at all or can it stay in the stock position.
Im not after anymore power as its got more than enough for the riding I do, just want best economy and smooth running.

Cheers

[NordieBoy]

Ok, to save me wading through miles of threads, Ive just pulled the slide out of mine and the clip is in the 2nd from bottom position which could explain why its been a tad thirsty plus at the bottom of the slide there is another hole through the bottom which lines up with one of the internal grooves in the slide. Is this hole standard and what is the stock clip position?
If the snorkle is removed (Which it is at the mo) does the clip have to be dropped at all or can it stay in the stock position.
Im not after anymore power as its got more than enough for the riding I do, just want best economy and smooth running.

Cheers

So is that 1 or 2 holes in the bottom of the slide?
Stock is one off the the side and a little mark where another could go opposite it.

Stock Jet Needle setting is 3rd from top...

272030

If the snorkel is removed then richen the needle up a clip from stock.

Is the white spacer ring on the needle in good condition (completely round, not D shaped or stepped)?

[Waipukbiker]

Thanks for that, the spacer has to be D shaped to fit in to the recess at the bottom of the slide, other than that it seems ok, the bike has only done 19,000 kms so there should be bugger all wear, Ive put the clip back into the centre position and I will put the snorkle back on and see what the fuel consumption is like then.

[NordieBoy]

Thanks for that, the spacer has to be D shaped to fit in to the recess at the bottom of the slide, other than that it seems ok, the bike has only done 19,000 kms so there should be bugger all wear, Ive put the clip back into the centre position and I will put the snorkle back on and see what the fuel consumption is like then.

The white spacer is completely round and sits on the top of the D shelf.

Stock needle?

[Waipukbiker]

Well thats interesting, The spacer in mine is flat across one side and is a neat fit down inside the recess. the thickness of the spacer would be equal to at least 2 clip slots, poss 3, which would have been roughly equal to having the clip in the top slot. The bike would have been running way to lean in that case but it was running sweet except for being a bit thirsty. I value your experience mate but this isn't stacking up, I find it hard to believe that someone would have filed the spacer across one side so it would fit right down in the recess
( and its a perfect fit in there). Will check this out further.

Ok, Have just started the bike and although it runs ok, after about 1 min I could feel the heat coming off the header pipe so super lean although it reved freely enough. When I initially pulled the slide out it was impossible to tell if the spacer was on top of the "D" or down inside it. Ive had a look on a couple of tutorial sites and they both show a round spacer with another washer under it.
If the spacer was originally round, what would have caused one side to wear so much and is there supposed to be a washer under the plastic spacer?

Cheers

[NordieBoy]

Some do file the spacer to make it fit "just right" and then complain about the poor running.

Clip, spacer, washer...
272050

The spacer on my 2nd carb was over half way to becoming a "D" on it's own.

It's leaned off the equiv of 2 clips or so if it's at the bottom of the D shelf.

I'd raise the needle to the equiv of stock + 1.

How many clips has it got?

You could put some washers on top of the spacer to bring the needle head back up to "proper" height.

[Waipukbiker]

What I have done is fit a flat washer under the spacer to stop it sliding down past the base if it turns to line the "D" up. The washer as far as I can see is the same thickness as the space between the clip grooves so I have lifted the clip to second from the top so with the washer on it should be the same as the centre groove. I havnt ridden it yet so will see how it goes with fuel consumption.

Thanks for your help

[NordieBoy]

What I have done is fit a flat washer under the spacer to stop it sliding down past the base if it turns to line the "D" up. The washer as far as I can see is the same thickness as the space between the clip grooves so I have lifted the clip to second from the top so with the washer on it should be the same as the centre groove. I havnt ridden it yet so will see how it goes with fuel consumption.

Thanks for your help

Tweak the mixture screw to suit too...

[cruza]

What views are there on dr650 seats . sargent any good? any one got the procycle foam/seat cover ? looks comfy .

[Eddieb]

What views are there on dr650 seats . sargent any good? any one got the procycle foam/seat cover ? looks comfy .

I've got the Seat Concepts one, it's an improvement but nowhere near as comfy as the Sargent on Big Col's bike.

Nordie will be along soon to say 'do it yourself, it's easy'. It would certainly be a lot cheaper.

[Shoshoni]

What views are there on dr650 seats . sargent any good? any one got the procycle foam/seat cover ? looks comfy .

I had my seat done by a local company made a huge difference and cost was around $140 mark.

Canterbury Upholstery
107 Linwood Ave, Christchurch 8011
03 389 2385
http://www.canterburyupholstery.co.nz/
canterburyupholstery@yahoo.co.nz

[Pikey]

I borrowed Eddies and took it to local upholsterer (Kerrys in Levin) Im more than happy with result! $150 all up with new cover! 500k+ rides and no sore butt :-)

[NordieBoy]

Nordie will be along soon to say 'do it yourself, it's easy'. It would certainly be a lot cheaper.

Do it yourself, it's easy.

Sorta.

I did however start with a Corbin in the first place so even if I stuffed it up, it'd be betterer than the stocker.

It now weighs about 25kg :apumpin:

http://sports.nelson.geek.nz/motorsport/mybikes/DR650/20070214%20Seating/index.html

The stock seat is fine, for standing.

Actually, I put a stock seat on for racing and extreme enduro purposes...

[cruza]

I had my seat done by a local company made a huge difference and cost was around $140 mark.

Canterbury Upholstery
107 Linwood Ave, Christchurch 8011
03 389 2385
http://www.canterburyupholstery.co.nz/
canterburyupholstery@yahoo.co.nz

can you post a pic?

[Shoshoni]

can you post a pic?

Here ya go

[cruza]

Here ya go

That looks good. nice and comfy I take it? Think i'll give your option a go...nice and local too. TM40 pumper carb showed up home this arvo:whistle: Looking forward to getting it on

[Waipukbiker]

My centre stand and H.I.D. lighting kit turned up today from Procycle, 5 days it took from when I ordered it, thought it was going to take a bit longer than that. Just need to go and get it from a friends place, ( I live out in the country so easier to courier to someone in town).
Will post my opinions on both once they are fitted.

[Waipukbiker]

Well Ive fitted the centre stand and its bloody bewdy mate, the only trouble is getting the bike up on it, mine is in the lowered position and its a hell of a lift to get it up on the stand. The stand dousnt have a bit sticking out the side so you can stand on it to use your body weight to help rock it back on the stand. idealy, i need a handle just above the pillion foot peg but its a trade off for having it in the low position. once its up, the back wheel is well off the deck and its only just weight biased to the front, a gentle push down and the front is off the ground so great for doing anything on either wheel.

[Box of riddles]

Is there anything that can be done on the cheap to make the stock headlight a little better? Riding in the dark puts the shits up me with the stock unit, and it's incredibly offputting since I travel at night alot.

[NordieBoy]

Is there anything that can be done on the cheap to make the stock headlight a little better? Riding in the dark puts the shits up me with the stock unit, and it's incredibly offputting since I travel at night alot.

Get a +60% bulb (Philips/Narva)

[Waipukbiker]

Ive seen a post on another forum where a guy fitted a relay in the system so the headlight was fed straight from the battery so it was getting full battery voltage instead of suffering the usual voltage drop from going through the standard circuits. How the the dip switch was hooked in Im not sure without looking at a wiring diagram but apparently it made a very noticeable difference. The control circuit of the relay was via a handle bar switch so the lights could be be turned off.

Ive just purchased an HID lighting kit for mine but haven't fiited it yet, From what I have read it just changes the normal light spread to a very bright white light but I will also be fitting an on/off switch on the bar.

There is an LED spot light kit available for the DR650 and I think its on the Procycle site.

[pomgolian]

Ive seen a post on another forum where a guy fitted a relay in the system so the headlight was fed straight from the battery so it was getting full battery voltage instead of suffering the usual voltage drop from going through the standard circuits. How the the dip switch was hooked in Im not sure without looking at a wiring diagram but apparently it made a very noticeable difference. The control circuit of the relay was via a handle bar switch so the lights could be be turned off.

Ive just purchased an HID lighting kit for mine but haven't fiited it yet, From what I have read it just changes the normal light spread to a very bright white light but I will also be fitting an on/off switch on the bar.

There is an LED spot light kit available for the DR650 and I think its on the Procycle site.

Ross if you search this thread for "headlamp relay" it will bring up the wiring diagram i added, i was led to believe the high wattage bulbs would melt the wiring but i was surprised how little current it draws. Still worth adding heavier duty cable, fuses & relays just in case.

Paul

[Waipukbiker]

Thanks Paul, Im starting to wonder now after looking at some other posts about 650 headlights on diff forums as to whether upgrading the existing system to a better bulb and a switchable relay for a direct feed from the battery may be just as effective as a High intensity discharge kit. A couple have fitted the LED spot kit and reckon they are awesome.

[pomgolian]

Hi not sure the relay mod will be as good as the HID kit, i purchased one off trademe recently and it looks like a Xenon bulb which are very good if they are the same as car versions, rare for them to blow but i have changed car ones, havnt put it on yet as concerned if i get a bulb failure in the middle of a trip can you easily switch back to the standard bulb. Next time the headlamp is off i will see if its worth fitting or not - spare bulbs are $ 30 US.

[R650R]

Hi not sure the relay mod will be as good as the HID kit, i purchased one off trademe recently and it looks like a Xenon bulb which are very good if they are the same as car versions, rare for them to blow but i have changed car ones, havnt put it on yet as concerned if i get a bulb failure in the middle of a trip can you easily switch back to the standard bulb. Next time the headlamp is off i will see if its worth fitting or not - spare bulbs are $ 30 US.

Very reliable. My old linehaul truck did 460 000km before one of the HID lamps blew. Mostly night work and multi-deliveries so they got switched on and off a bit too. You get a bit of warning too, at least I did before the failure, the colour temp of the light changes noticeably.

[Waipukbiker]

Interesting comments, A couple of the posts Ive seen on the HID kit, It was thought that the best possible performance of the HID bulb was restricted by the reflector design in the DR650 headlamp. Its like anything that is changed from what the manufacturer designed it to do, there is always some compromise, for me who dous,nt do a lot of night riding, if the HID kit improves on what Ive got then that's fine. If i was doing a lot of regular night riding then I would be fitting the LED driving lights kit.

If I was living in a city then how often would you be able to have your lights on full beam anyway.

[UralIneed]

What views are there on dr650 seats . sargent any good? any one got the procycle foam/seat cover ? looks comfy .

I've got the Sargents low seat, very comfy compared to the standard bone shaker. I see they have a standard Sargents seat and a low version at Freedom in Palmy. Pricey but what price comfort and the Sargents look good too, IMHO.

[humphrt]

Have just saved up and ordered a bunch of parts etc off procycle.com. What's the story with customs, tax and stuff once landed and how do you get charged?

[NordieBoy]

Have just saved up and ordered a bunch of parts etc off procycle.com. What's the story with customs, tax and stuff once landed and how do you get charged?

Only GST might be applied.

Bike bits are duty exempt.

[humphrt]

What about how they charge u?

[pomgolian]

What about how they charge u?

Keep it under $ 400 inc freight NZ and it ships straight to you, go over $ 400 inc freight NZ then you get done 15% GST and one off $ 25 or $ 35 not sure (called import duty fee). Nice man from DHL will ring you for your credit card number, once processed he sends the bits, NO pay NO bits. Been caught everytime bar once when i went over $ 400. The one time i didnt was a $ 800 import which was sweet.

[humphrt]

Nasty money hoggin bastards.

[Waipukbiker]

Well after many sleepness nights, pages of techincal drawings, working with consultants and threatening nasty letters to procycle, Ive finally come with a highly technical solution to getting a lowered DR650 up onto the centre stand, (Ok, enough talking a load of shit)

Back the bike up onto a bit of 4x2 then rock it back on to the stand :headbang:

[humphrt]

A 2x4 is a rather large bit of kit, might need a bigger tool box

[NordieBoy]

Roll it up onto your boot instead...

[R650R]

Have you taken the standard pipe off yet. Remember in my younger days had a race stand made for my GSXR1100L with no thought at all to the pivot angles and leverage involved. Result was one hell of a back braking pull to drag it up there with standard twin boat anchor pipes on. Became manageable with a 4-1 yoshi fitted later lol.

[humphrt]

Oil change time. Anyone care to share what oils they've tried and how they performed?

[NordieBoy]

I use Total HIPERF 4T SUPER. Comes in 5L containers which is sweet for 2 changes.

Any motorbike specific oil will be sweet.

[Waipukbiker]

I always carry a small pack on the Ventura frame so a short bit of 4x2 in the bottom is not a prob.

I managed to fit the HID light kit along with an on/off switch on the handle bar working through a relay.
Wouldnt work to start with so on the phone to Wade and a ride to his place and a bad earth was found to be the culprit.

[Waipukbiker]

Typical, Just when you want to go for a ride to check something out, visitors turn up.
Nice and dark so HID light testing time, The beam is much wider than stock so would be an advantage on a twisty road, the actual distance out in front is much the same as stock but the light is much brighter, adjusted it as best I could on a straight bit of road but really needs to be set on a wksp beam setter. When you first turn them there is a brief flash and the light is quite dim then it slowly gets brighter.......... and brighter........ and brighter....and brighter. My procedure for checking the light after fitting it was to stand out in front and look at the headlight :eek5: :wacko: :bash:

Thanks Wade for the help in getting it sorted.

[humphrt]

Am after a 45 or 46 tooth rear. Can anyone elaborate as to where they got theirs?

[NordieBoy]

Am after a 45 or 46 tooth rear. Can anyone elaborate as to where they got theirs?

Keintech does a 45t in 525 width.
http://www.kientech.com/DR650ConvNstandardsprocketkits.htm

An RGV250 sprocket is the right one in 520 width.

[Waipukbiker]

Just curios, have you tried going down 1 in the front? Mine came with 15/43, changed the front to a 14 and Im more than happy with it.
100kph is approx 4,300 rpm and its much nicer to ride.
JD Sprockets and Vortex do a 46 tooth I think but it may only be in 520
Procycle do a 46 tooth but only in 520
Just discovered kientech do a steel 45T in 525, oops, Nordie beat me too it

[humphrt]

Mine came 15/41 way too high. Went to 14/41 still too high for my style of riding, but want to keep that option for highway riding. Works out the same as 15/45 then can swap front to 14 for more adventurous riding

[NordieBoy]

Mine came 15/41 way too high. Went to 14/41 still too high for my style of riding, but want to keep that option for highway riding. Works out the same as 15/45 then can swap front to 14 for more adventurous riding

Easy option is a Freewind 43t rear sprocket and a 14t front.
I think you'll find it'll do almost everything with that combo.


I'm running 15/46 which = 14/43.

I rode down to the DB1K on 16/46 (15/43 equiv) and it felt too high geared.
Switched to 14/46 for the ride to Fairlie and it was sweet. Except for 100kph road sections :pinch:
First day of the DB, I ran 14/46 and it was fine bar the aforementioned road sections.
2nd day I changed to 15/46 and it was much nicer all round. It let the bike use the torque more and still had the legs for 100-110kph on the seal.

14/46 is relegated for Erzberg type use now.

I also find the 14/43 - 15/46 ratio is almost perfect in 50, 70 zones. No lugging. 3rd gear in 50, 4th in 70.

[humphrt]

Awesome thanks. Now this may seem like an odd question. I've read that some people run a 520 rear on a 525 chain and front to a) make the most of sprocket sizes and b) apparently it helps keep the chain clear of mud/dirt/grit etc. thereby extending chain life... blah blah blah. Thoughts?

[Waipukbiker]

I found the 14/43 is excellent on shingle, much easier when standing than a 15/43, tractors out of the corners better at the lower revs.
On the road I found it was easier to change down for passing but don't have to now, Just twist and go.
Cant help you with the mix and match 520/525 set up. Others on here prob can.

[NordieBoy]

Awesome thanks. Now this may seem like an odd question. I've read that some people run a 520 rear on a 525 chain and front to a) make the most of sprocket sizes and b) apparently it helps keep the chain clear of mud/dirt/grit etc. thereby extending chain life... blah blah blah. Thoughts?

Didn't really help. Unless you're constantly getting the rear deep in sand/mud it's not much of an advantage.

Don't think it extended the life of any component...

[humphrt]

Are there any disadvantages? Could it wreak the chain or sprockets?

[NordieBoy]

Are there any disadvantages? Could it wreak the chain or sprockets?

I felt the sprocket wore slightly quicker, but that's about all.

Going to a 45-46 rear also means going to a 112 link chain...

I got about 20,000km from a rear 44t 520 running on a 525 chain and front sprocket for 8,000km and then with a 520 sprocket and chain for the rest.

[humphrt]

Awesome info cheers

[pete-blen]

To who maybe interested...
the best bash plate system I have seen...
& seems like a good buy...for whats included...

https://tciproductsusa.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=144_166_185&products_id=569