Cornering in sand. Stand or sit?

[flyingcr250]

but really, sitting down in sand??

i like sitting down in the sand berms and just hitting the berms as hard as i can, but i always stand up on the straights and some of the more gentle turns

[telliman]

i like sitting down in the sand berms and just hitting the berms as hard as i can, but i always stand up on the straights and some of the more gentle turns

yeah same!

but leaning over and doing the same thing standing up gets the adreniline going, im not a big fan of the sand but when you get in tune with it its almost the best surface of all if that makes any sense!

[flyingcr250]

yeah same!

but leaning over and doing the same thing standing up gets the adreniline going, im not a big fan of the sand but when you get in tune with it its almost the best surface of all if that makes any sense!

yea cool feeling hitting the berm watching the front wheel dissapear then gassing it and lifting the front and sideways wheelie out of the berm

[Ktmboy]

yeah same!

but leaning over and doing the same thing standing up gets the adreniline going, im not a big fan of the sand but when you get in tune with it its almost the best surface of all if that makes any sense!

Its a buzz which ever way you do it. But recently its been a challenge to see how low to the ground the bike can get whislt still standing. Certainly gets the adrenalin factor up there.

[Danger]

Heck Woodhills so smooth I just sit 90% of the time and just about always through the corners and I tend to keep the feet on the pegs unless trying to weight the front end more. I do stand in some of the wider faster easier access trails or the MX track where the sand is softer and where weighting the pegs from side to side makes for better maneuverability without having to steer with the bars but because I try to stick to the single track I hardly stand at all.
I sit mostly and stand only when I have too and use any bumps to move me into a standing position or back into the seated position. I find that sitting and making small weight shifts that the traction is better without having to pull back on the bars which is just tiring in the long haul. When I'm standing I'm riding forward or central without pulling back on the bars and I use the power to keep the front light. For longer rides I try to stand more just to stretch my legs but for fast single tracking sitting works best for me.

[4stroke]

Its a buzz which ever way you do it. But recently its been a challenge to see how low to the ground the bike can get whislt still standing. Certainly gets the adrenalin factor up there.

the only problem ive found when cornering hard stnading up in the forest is the trees seem to get closer to your head on the horozontil plain, but then it washes out and bail anyway, i try to stand as much as posible and sit when ever i have to.

[crfchick]

You just have to roll your foot further forward and if yah going quick enough for get the clutch i hardly ever use it changing up. And try not to look down at what your doin see lot people doin that eye on where you want to go unless you want to hit the ground.

What exactly do you mean roll your foot further forward Barty? I feel like I really have to point my foot down heaps to get it under the gear lever when I am standing up (almost like there isnt a big enough gap for my foot..)

[L Rider]

What exactly do you mean roll your foot further forward Barty? I feel like I really have to point my foot down heaps to get it under the gear lever when I am standing up (almost like there isnt a big enough gap for my foot..)

Does your lever need adjusting? I'm actually not sure how my foot to lever feels when i'm standing as i'm yet to actually move my foot haha.
I have ridden a RM though which when sitting the lever position had me having to point my foot down then kinda tuck it under as it was too close for me - i think that was the problem anyway

[Crisis management]

I feel like I really have to point my foot down heaps to get it under the gear lever when I am standing up (almost like there isnt a big enough gap for my foot..)

Adjust your levers to suit your riding position...every lever, brake, gear, clutch is adjustable for position and you need to be comfortable to ride smoothly. Put your bike on a stand (upright) get on it and take your normal riding position, standing or sitting, and then adjust all the levers so they are set for the natural position of your feet and hands.
I ride standing and set the gear lever to just beside my big toe so i can easily rock my foot down or up to change gear, I have the instep of my boot on the peg and just rock the boot on that to change gear....same with the brake lever.
Get set up properly and you will find it's easy to control the gears and back brake standing or sitting, spend the time adjusting the bars and levers to get yourself in a comfortable position.

[barty5]

What exactly do you mean roll your foot further forward Barty? I feel like I really have to point my foot down heaps to get it under the gear lever when I am standing up (almost like there isnt a big enough gap for my foot..)

As the other have said try a few addjustments on levers mine are set so i can just sorta roll tilt foot forward you'll need to shift foot forward a small amount and gear shift is there kinda hard to explain. After 20 something years od it kind just something yah dont think bout. I kinds catch it with the outer edge of boot rather than havin foot right under it, Edge of foot tends to sit just to the side of lever ten it quick and easy to change up or down.

[crfchick]

That's awesome guys! Sounds like I have some adjustments to make

[camchain]

On sweeping sandy turns, no hard and fast rule for me.
Sometimes sit sometimes stand, I like full bag of tricks available as every turn always a bit different in some way; Intended line, depth/softness of sand, sand snakes & berms, size/spacing of bumps etc.

Mainly bumpiness determines my seat/stand but also depends on estimated likelyhood of holding a clean & stable line. If there's a good chance of needing a dab or gliding the size12 for tripod stability, I don't want to be standing. Often seems i can be a bit more agressive if seated

If sand is smooth enough, might not be much difference in pace between sit or stand - but then again maybe a bit better drive if meat-on-seat? (ref Humai's good description re sit/stand weight effect on steep climb)

No doubt about it though, nailing a sandy turn feet up (sitting or standing) is very satisfying. Something I like to do every now and then is to ride a whole trail (tight or open) keeping feet up all the way through. For me it really focusses attention and promotes accurate riding. Seems like the more i do the feet up excercise, the less i need to take a dab.