Well bikers are screwed - ACC levy

[Ixion]

A little bird has whispered to me, that one of the prime movers behind tehse increases has been our dear friends the AA. I'd believe that.

F'instance

What you’ve got here is a recognition that motorcycling, in terms of ACC, is a very high risk, and the injuries are severe because you are exposed on a motorcycle,” says Mike Noon from the Automobile Association.

Maybe a suitable target for protest?

[Bangbug]

I'm Sorted.

Just finished tapping a power point out of the back of my mains distribution board to feed my house heating. That'll save me $500 a year. Problem solved.

Sometimes you have to fight crime with crime!

Hey Dafe, I must live up the hill from you.
Drop round and wire me up bro

[Del Fuego]

OK I only managed to get through about half the million pages but to my eyes it looks like this:

Bikers break themselves, user pays would suggest that the new fees (or higher fees) are needed to cover the patchup costs.

I am not for the price hike however I would argue that (assuming a normal 1 bike 1 car type scenario) private health/accident insurance would still be more expensive than the ACC levies.

HOWEVER, given the benefit to society that bikes produce, including traffic, parking etc etc (as an aside was at a large corporate HQ today, there must have been HUNDREDS) of bikes and scooters there) You can imagine the gridlock if every single biker (scoots included) said fuck it and just drove cars everywhere. No parking, no travelling, buses blocked, you name it!

The advantage to the economy and life in general is surely worth a couple bucks subsidy from each car driver surely?

Im down with a protest... should be used to put across the point of what would happen if all those bikers grabbed a car each and publicised as such...

[jamiey]

Power to the People

[tigertim20]

Done. Go on every one DO IT!!!

I have too just now

How many random stops are the Highway Patrol going to have to do once this starts happening? I bet three an hour is going to tripled or quadrupled and the fines will have to go up to pay for the printing of more ticket books.
The sad truth is the coppers on the road are gonna be firmly instructed by the Schutzstaffel in Wellington to be more active in randomly stopping motorcycles for "safety" checks -as we all know the focus for the Highway Patrol and all Police on the roads is on Safety and I am absolutely sure that my bike is so much safer when I have lightened the load on the suspension and steering by having an empty wallet. This is probably going to have a long term effect of reducing my carbon footprint as I wont have to carry all that evil money around.

to do so would be counter intuitive. fines go to the courts, not ACC. ticket us heaps, gee sorry, now we REALLY cant pay rego, cos you fined us too much, and ACC goes up in flames, which they dont want.

Its fucking bullshit. I for one will be riding with a WOF and reg on hold permanently. I refuse to fucking pay that shit.

[Thaeos]

One thing that doesn't make any sense is that they are CURRENTLY collecting more in levies than what they are paying out ... so why the need for any increase in the first place ???

[HungusMaximist]

Start pedalling bitches!

Pedal power! And you get fit along the way.

[Dafe]

Suddenly - I don't feel so bad about stealing that computer mouse from ACC.

[monkeymcbean]

649cc. Mental.

I'll rego the bike for a year before it comes into effect,

after that I'll either deregister it, or sell it.

Fuck you ACC.

Thats right, roll over.

[Bangbug]

Suddenly - I no longer feel bad about stealing that computer mouse from ACC.

and I don't feel bad about the acc receptionist i have under the valiant in the back yard

[Dodgyiti]

33 pages in this thread so far.
Phew, took me an hour

If only it could be constructed in a direction that would serve some purpose towards legal protest be it in person or submissions to ACC.

Sucks for multiple bike owners
Sucks for classic and vintage bike owners
Sucks if you recently had a bike accident that was not your fault
Sucks for bike industry workers
Sucks for the environment

Sucks for me

But that does not mean I will bend over and take it, already composed and sent a lovely submission, await the protest action. Let's hope BRONZ are up to being leaders and organisers in this.

[dmc]

OK I only managed to get through about half the million pages but to my eyes it looks like this:

Bikers break themselves, user pays would suggest that the new fees (or higher fees) are needed to cover the patchup costs.

I am not for the price hike however I would argue that (assuming a normal 1 bike 1 car type scenario) private health/accident insurance would still be more expensive than the ACC levies.

HOWEVER, given the benefit to society that bikes produce, including traffic, parking etc etc (as an aside was at a large corporate HQ today, there must have been HUNDREDS) of bikes and scooters there) You can imagine the gridlock if every single biker (scoots included) said fuck it and just drove cars everywhere. No parking, no travelling, buses blocked, you name it!

The advantage to the economy and life in general is surely worth a couple bucks subsidy from each car driver surely?

Im down with a protest... should be used to put across the point of what would happen if all those bikers grabbed a car each and publicised as such...

Don't forget you can race your bike at the track or a mx track, play rugby or any other contact sport and not get charged, so because you own a car or 2 and a bike or 2 you have to pay for every other bugger in the country.

[gunrunner]

Im currently off on ACC at the moment having been thrown off the road by strong winds , should be back at work next week . Now im a very experienced rider and if the same thing happened again chances are would be same result . Not much damage to bike or me but a stress fracture all the same . As i ride a Vmax yes i will be hit but my bike is my hobby and have spent many hours getting it to the condition it is or was and i will be doing that again .
Accidents happen as i sure as hell didnt want to put it down but i did and this was on straight road , not much i could do when you have a road bike all of a sudden off road .
Now as the public or the News reports like it did tonight with those bikes scattered all over the road wasnt there a car involved i think we as riders get unfairly targeted when there is an accident . Now i do about 13000kms on mine per year i see alot of stupid shit from riders on the road . My point is complusory Private insurance . Punish the individual not others and leave rego charges etc alone . Now in my case having just come off my bike with no one else involved i would put my hand up guilty as charged i will except the increase but why should the next guy .
Some sort of private insurance for the person regardless of what he rides, drives or how many vehicles is the best way to go . Why are they only targeting riders . Havent the police issued the most speeding tickets ever , not to mention these turbo charged import cars now i used to own 1 and it would of kicked the arse of the 6 cylinder i now have .

The Government need to be fare on this instead of pointing the finger and taking the easiest option for them .

[Pixie]

A little bird has whispered to me, that one of the prime movers behind tehse increases has been our dear friends the AA. I'd believe that.

F'instance



Maybe a suitable target for protest?

If you are a motorcyclist and you still buy AA membership ,you are an idiot.
Vote with your wallet

[BASS-TREBLE]

My old mans been riding since he's been a teenager in Germany, where the road system is a little more, umm, sorted I'd say

Over there, big bikes pay less in insurance/ACC (to a point) etc because they are safer. Think about it.

Power to get outta shit, Bigger brakes, Bigger contact patch, More big bikes have ABS, More stable on the road.

If they had FACTS to back them up, it would be a different story.

I think we should mention that in our letters of complaints.