The new scheme is still a bargain, I hope you realise...

[Murray]

Has anyone else considered that going from $1 to $2 (or $3) a day to own a motorcycle is still cheaper than catching a bus or parking a car?

I've reckon Including maintenance, tyres, insurance, rego and fuel, my 20km commute each way still only costs four dollars.

Lets do some sums New Rego (under 601cc 40km a day 5 days a week only less stats = approx 9960km annually) $511.43 + apprx $140 registration costs + approx $360 insurance + $100 2 x wof + approx $500 2 x tires + $420 petrol (40km per litre) That equals $5.57 per day in 365 day year but you are only using it 249 days of the year (5 day week and stats off) = $8.16 per days use. And no maintenace costs on top

Use my logic and put in your own insurance etc and somehow do not see $4 any way I look at it???

[mossy1200]

You have forgotton to factor in one small thing. You actually have to buy a bike too. (You need to spend $5k or so so you can save that couple of dollars a day). Don't worry though. I used the same flawed logic when I first convinced Mrs Oakie that ity would make good sense to buy a bike.

But bikes wont be worth much any more.

[kunoichi]

ok can't afford to pay for public transport, can't afford to live in the city, can't afford to keep my bike on the road, house is too far away to walk/cycle from....great support for students!

[StoneY]

Has anyone else considered that going from $1 to $2 (or $3) a day to own a motorcycle is still cheaper than catching a bus or parking a car?
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I have zero respect for your opinion, or your Math
Its bullshit, end of story, utter dribbel and outright discrimination

[ital916]

I believe a huge portion of the outcry is coming from the fact that there is a large percentage of bikes over 600cc, leaving them with a minium rego cost of roughly 1000 dollars a year. On top of that you have to get wofs plus service costs plus other stuff. Now, it may be fine for people just commuting, but a lot of bikes over 250cc (aund under haha) get pressed into service as long distance work horses as well as weekend/weekday toys. I dont mind paying extra, but I dont want to pay for off road motorcycles, cyclists and other crap like that.

[James Deuce]

Has anyone else considered that going from $1 to $2 (or $3) a day to own a motorcycle is still cheaper than catching a bus or parking a car?

I've reckon Including maintenance, tyres, insurance, rego and fuel, my 20km commute each way still only costs four dollars.

The train costs $5.70 and runs stupid hours, and it a ten minute drive from home, adding the cost of my time.

A small 1300cc car costs as much as a bike to run (high insurance cancels rego), but city parking is offensive at best.


The new levy still leaves me better off on the 400cc bike than the bus; I just have to save/budget accordingly to pay the lump sum.

Of course for those who don't commute, this is still a crock of shit.

A 1300cc car is WAY cheaper than a bike to run.

[vindy500]

A small 1300cc car costs as much as a bike to run (high insurance cancels rego), but city parking is offensive at best.

my MR2 insurance is about $30 more a year than my 250 bandit. full cover, both insured for the same amount

[Ixion]

A 1300cc car is WAY cheaper than a bike to run.

Cheaper than a 125cc scrotah. Doubt it.

[Coldrider]

When are these bargain priced Honda CBR1000RR and Yammy R1s be coming onto the market, might grab one or three, only need one rego'd at any given time.
Might not be too many KB actual bikers left on here.

[k2w3]

It's not just the amount. It's the increase %. Try tripling the (already quite expensive) bill of any other group in society and watch them squeal too.

[Laxi]

whereas half the accidents I have

farrk dude! exactly how many accidents do tou have????

[duckonin]

A 1300cc car is WAY cheaper than a bike to run.

+1..4 this post

[dpex]

It's not the money!!!!!:slap:

It's the fact that we are being, again, by using spurious figures to insinuate that we are reckless burdens on society.

No, you're not quite right here. They're not saying bikers are the fault makers, they are saying bikers involved in an accident (regardless of fault) cost more to fix. I can understand that.

What I cannot understand, and what I absolutely reject is the cynical targeting of such an easy-to-target group when so many others enjoying two wheel transport get off Scot-free. They do because dirt-bikers whom ( as I understand it are included in bike accidents) ride where no cop will go. There are no age restrictions, no skill requirements, and no warrants. So they're almost impossible to police.

[Danae]

At least you see another side to it...

But it's still all a load of shit eh. They didn't account for the other vehicles involved in the ACC claims of motorcyclists. And basing how much you pay by cc rating is frankly ridiculous. If we go by ACC's way of thinking (higher cc = higher chance of crashing) wouldn't it not be fair that I'll be paying the same amount as you on your 400 or someone on a 600? It really doesn't make sense. Anyway, being a learner I probably have a higher chance of crashing; be it my own fault or someone else's.

At the moment I can only just afford petrol for my low fuel consumption FXR. And I can't afford the bus or a car. I'm fucked if this goes through.

[Laxi]

No, you're not quite right here. They're not saying bikers are the fault makers, they are saying bikers involved in an accident (regardless of fault) cost more to fix. I can understand that.

actually they have stated in the media that bikers are "more likely to be involved in an accident) you're right the true stat is that we are more likely to be injured, its a simple fact of not having any protection arround us, but their statements so far have been aimed at convincing the public that it's our fault and we are a blight to society