To those willing to deliberately screw the BIKEOI plan

**SARGE** · 11th November 2009, 22:17

Originally Posted by TOTO

I aint against you man, just having a realistic look round.

so if this doesn't work, then we take militant action, right ?

thats why you have me

**Bald Eagle** · 11th November 2009, 22:25

Originally Posted by Laxi

what a dickhead! ya dont kick the door in till you've tried the handle, there will be time for pissing people off later, lets try getting public support 1st! as has been said in other threads if you dont like the way this protest is going to be, then dont fucking turn up!

Originally Posted by TOTO

I aint against you man, just having a realistic look round.

so if this doesn't work, then we take militant action, right ?

The most important thing for everyone to do is "check your egos at the door" we get one chance to do this in a way that keeps Joe and Joette public on side and send a proper structured message to Parliament.

Then if that doesn't work we regroup and reevaluate our options.

**Big Dave** · 11th November 2009, 22:41

Mr Dobson I assume is a citizen who can act as he sees fit.
He can deal with the Police too. As he'll be in the minority - good luck with that.

Sarge - the blokes with the BRONZ gear represent the best chance of a positive outcome. Support them.

**retro asian** · 11th November 2009, 22:41

Originally Posted by StoneY

Oh yeah, btw, that (his employer) happens to be one of our 'sponsors' who has FINANCIALLY contributed to our stadium fund......

Funny how small the world is

Maybe give him a break then, yes he did something silly... but let's forgive, forget, move on and focus towards the task at hand.

**Insanity_rules** · 11th November 2009, 22:55

Originally Posted by SARGE

oooo.. calling KB Militant Arm members .. the bounty extends to the wankers in the hi-vis vest waving you into the stadium...

Allow me to introduce myself, I'm one of those wankers. Anyone trys it and they'll get a free trip to the orthodontist.

**SARGE** · 11th November 2009, 22:58

Originally Posted by Insanity_rules

I'll be the one in the Black and red leather jacket and Hi-vis. Try it!

i'll be the one riding up the stairs

**Insanity_rules** · 11th November 2009, 23:00

Originally Posted by SARGE

i'll be the one riding up the stairs

ROFLMAO!

FYI I edited my post just as you were quoting me. Long and millitant night, maybe I should join the KB militia?

**Ixion** · 11th November 2009, 23:08

Simple realities here.

firstly, if people want to "ride to Parliament" but don't want to park in the stadium , what is it they think they are actually going to DO.

Reality: The parking in Molesworth St will fill fast , It will hold maybe 500 bikes MAX and less now that they have toughened up on parking on the Cenotaph . Take off disabled space, and marshalls, and you'll have to get there REAL early to get a place even as a wild goose.

Reality: Parking IN parliament grounds itself is not and never has been, an option. Those days are gone. There will be police and guards and such. And some of them WILL be carrying guns. Serious. Trying to force a way in will be a quick entry to a whole world of pain.

So, if you don't want to park in the stadium , and you don't get there early enough to grab a park in Molesworth St, what are you actually going to DO on your "ride to parliament" ? Ride round a bit then ride home without stopping? Park somewhere else and have an even longer walk.

**SARGE** · 11th November 2009, 23:12

Originally Posted by Insanity_rules

Allow me to introduce myself, I'm one of those wankers. Anyone trys it and they'll get a free trip to the orthodontist.

so lemme get this straight ..

theres gonna be a 10 hour ride non stop to Parliament to get there and park 5 miles away instead of ramming the message down the leaders throat with 6000 pissed off bikers at their front door?...

sorry man .. i'll see if i can get a refund on the pitchfork and torch i just bought ..

**SARGE** · 11th November 2009, 23:18

just as well i cant make it in person then... i'll be up here ... all alone on some deserted mountain road.. listening to the sound of 1400+cc's at redline echoing off the hills..

all by myself

**Insanity_rules** · 11th November 2009, 23:20

Originally Posted by SARGE

so lemme get this straight ..

theres gonna be a 10 hour ride non stop to Parliament to get there and park 5 miles away instead of ramming the message down the leaders throat with 6000 pissed off bikers at their front door?...

sorry man .. i'll see if i can get a refund on the pitchfork and torch i just bought ..

No no you can still bring it. There'll still be 6000 pissed off bikers at the front doors. In fact if you post a photo complete with torch and pitchfork at parliament I'll make it worth your while.

**Big Dave** · 11th November 2009, 23:22

Originally Posted by SARGE

so lemme get this straight ..

Bull -> Horns.

**StoneY** · 11th November 2009, 23:24

Originally Posted by SARGE

so lemme get this straight ..

theres gonna be a 10 hour ride non stop to Parliament to get there and park 5 miles away instead of ramming the message down the leaders throat with 6000 pissed off bikers at their front door?...

sorry man .. i'll see if i can get a refund on the pitchfork and torch i just bought ..

No, your parking 150 Meters from the big house.

500 Bikes shut down a major motorway feed for the north end of the city, so we were asked, and very nicely, by Council, and Police to use the Fran Wilde Walkway for our 'mass' parking

Theres room for 200 or so bikes at Parliament, its a MID week business day with Busses flowing past the only way into that street

Its a reasonable request, and a historical opportunity to hold the BIGGEST rally ever at Parliament, as well as park the MOST bikes ever in NZ at one place

We will be seen, we will definitely be heard, and we have it all officially sanctioned

If we blow this, we stand to lose all credibility, and be labeled forever 'leather clad neanderthal's'

Is a SHORT walk from your Bike (guarded by our Wellington Volunteers) too much to ask???

The parking we DO get at the big house is open to all, but those in the large groups forming in the two main suburban locations are expected to go to the Stadium, where we have a collection for the Free Ambulance Service

And as we have inner city riders and disabled riders coming, I think it only fair they get to utilize the small area there, creating enough chrome and noise to be counted

TV will show the massive bike park at Stadium, the convoys, and our speeches

But if we dont show humility and restraint we give Nick and JK what they want, an angry rabble, with no respect to give, or be shown

Its not a huge ask to use the Stadium, in fact its a fucking blessing, or we would end up with riders walking fucking 5 ks alright, all the way from Courtenay Place, and one very HOSTILE city population who only just forgot the truckies of 2 years ago at last

**SARGE** · 11th November 2009, 23:25

Originally Posted by Insanity_rules

No no you can still bring it. There'll still be 6000 pissed off bikers at the front doors. In fact if you post a photo complete with torch and pitchfork at parliament I'll make it worth your while.

lemme think .. 6000 bikes in a large group.. hungry .. sore.. tired gotta piss

or ....

deserted roads in Dorkland's west coast and Franklin region with a full tank of Blue Voodoo rocket fuel

hope the weather's nice ....