Screw peaceful non-disruptive protest: Let's Cause Mayhem!

[Flip]

Be really carefull about trying to block traffic on a bike. I know people who would if really pissed off just push through a group of bikes.

[Ixion]

Personally, I don't rule out anything.

It's worth trying the nice way first.

After that, I don't really see affirmative action succeeding if it has to be tied to 'legal'. Sort of fighting with one hand tied behind you.

I believe that other organisations committed to affirmative action are waiting until the definite announcement of the new rates. Then disruption (legal or not) can be justifed on the basis that the we asked nicely and got pissed on.

Of course I have never heard of any such organisations. Which don't actually exist.

If Mr Smith is decidedly negative the nice-and-legal protests might be a worthwhile gap filler until the hard lads kick in.

[idleidolidyll]

Good idea, you want to listen to another legal way to protest?

Slap on some L plates to the back of your bike and ride down the motorways at 69 kmph using all the lanes. One or two bikes with learner lisences in the midst of us and we're teaching them how to ride "legally".

Fuck em. Just do it!

Some damn good ideas coming our way now

keep it all legal tho

[idleidolidyll]

Be really carefull about trying to block traffic on a bike. I know people who would if really pissed off just push through a group of bikes.

I agree

I thought about that from the start and have some ideas

not ready to post them here yet though; it might be better that those watching from the other side don't know our tactics

this is probably the kind of thing you'll get in your txt when the time is right

[idleidolidyll]

Personally, I don't rule out anything.

i'd already figured as much

It's worth trying the nice way first.

After that, I don't really see affirmative action succeeding if it has to be tied to 'legal'. Sort of fighting with one hand tied behind you.

it doesn't have to be illegal to cause mayhem so why go all the way at the next stage?
that might be an avenue someone else takes; say the MAGNZ people

I believe that other organisations committed to affirmative action are waiting until the definite announcement of the new rates. Then disruption (legal or not) can be justifed on the basis that the we asked nicely and got pissed on.

i reckon that will be far too late but i'll probably support all action in some way or other bar GBH

Of course I have never heard of any such organisations. Which don't actually exist.

shh! neither does the sis or the opal file

If Mr Smith is decidedly negative the nice-and-legal protests might be a worthwhile gap filler until the hard lads kick in.

yep, we'll wait but not for very long

[Flip]

I really like the idea of a park up around your local ACC ofices and a good old school noisy protest.

[idleidolidyll]

I'm starting to like the idea of disruptive yet legal action if nothing comes of the bikoi.

P.s I had a good laugh when you told goff to get the roads sweeped. The look on his face, well worth it.

good to have you onboard and thanks for the backslap

i had more i wanted to say to Goff but was cognisant of the organisers and didn't want to hijack the show

i actually walked up to Goff before the start and shook his hand
at least he paid us the respect of attending; national was nowhere

[idleidolidyll]

I really like the idea of a park up around your local ACC ofices and a good old school noisy protest.

ya see, disruptive action can also be fun

PR is first about getting attention; the message is useless without the audience

[FROSTY:Me]

This is a cool extreamly disruptive plan that I'd be ahppy taking part in. Take it a stage further and do it a couple of days at a time over a week or two, can you imigine the disruption.

Actually I really think you lot aren't thinking this through are ya??
The point in doing this is to make sure the car driving public realise that if bikes are priced off the road that this loss of parking spaces will be PERMANANT as bikers are FORCED by government to drive cars.
The great nor western car park will be worse etc.
I'd even suggest that if the tickets in central wellington are"only" $40 then it would be well worth it to make the point loud and clear

[pzkpfw]

Found this on another thread, some good ideas indeed

posted by jeffs:

I suggest we start by very slow riding in close circles around the bus depots, in such a way as it makes it impossible for buses to
get out. Hit the commuter, but not the one driving the car. This will have several effects. It show the people that we don't want to be in
our cars adding to the congestion. Getting us off our bikes, wont make us move to public transport. If you hold up the cars, people
may move to public transport, which is exactly one of their plans. Given the latest bus problems, such a thing would get good news cover

I was thinking something similar the other day.

But it involved walking and use of pedestrian (zebra) crossings.

Same effect, but does not make the bikes so visible.

Dunno.

Either way, I'm in for some of what the OP suggested.


To keep people (targets) on the back foot organisation needs to be done out of public eye, SMS and SMTP (email). There's enough IT folk around to help with that stuff...

[idleidolidyll]

Actually I really think you lot aren't thinking this through are ya??
The point in doing this is to make sure the car driving public realise that if bikes are priced off the road that this loss of parking spaces will be PERMANANT as bikers are FORCED by government to drive cars.
The great nor western car park will be worse etc.
I'd even suggest that if the tickets in central wellington are"only" $40 then it would be well worth it to make the point loud and clear

Hey; EXCELLENT thinking frosty

The way to do this then: use a poster depicting the car you'll have to buy and park there when the levy hikes price bikes off the road

hang this from your bike as you block their space telling them its because of the ACC rises

more like this please, cheers mate

[Flip]

ya see, disruptive action can also be fun

PR is first about getting attention; the message is useless without the audience

I actually like the idea of it a lot, piss off any old school biker and see what happens, but at this stage it would not wise to piss of the public. Piss on the ACC anytime.

[Grahameeboy]

Peace be with you all

[idleidolidyll]

start small and threaten to escalate?

perhaps, we'll have to see what happens over the next week

i hope they're reading this thread in parliment

[Flip]

No, they have more important things to worry about. I honestly believe they have bitten off more than they can chew. The minister will not be happy with all the bad press at the moment.