Bikers blocking shopping centre.

[Ozzie]

I fail to see the difference between a bunch of motorcycles legitimately and legally taking up a full carpark at mission bay going for brunch, and taking up a full carpark when taking a stroll through the mall.

I wouldn't support an actual protest, but would support mass use of motorcycles in westfield for a day. If everyone who owned a bike, used it to get to the mall to go browse for Christmas presents, on one particular day, and parked like cars do (sort of), 1 vehicle per park, what's wrong with that?

It would demonstrate precisely the same thing as the mission bay thing, mass absence of parks if we were all driving cars.

[Skyryder]

This is a mistake guys.

1. It's on private property and if any mall wants to get shitty they simply stop bikes from useing their car park. You could be asked to leave at a moments notice and what will you have achieved. Nothing and pissed off the public to boot.
(car spacing on the public road is another issue. In fact I have suggested that myself and it's lawfull too providing you feed the metre)

2. At present we have the general public on our side. Any kind of inconveniance to them could be counter productive.

3 It's far too early for alternitive protest action. It's coming on Xmas time when many people will be out and about. They will have other concerns other than ours. In the new year when Parliment comes out of recess would be a better time but keep off private property. You enter on the owners good will...............respect that.

All I can add is to the organisers of this just think this thru.


Skyryder

[kwaka_crasher]

Blockading private property? The most retarded fucking idea ever.

[wingrider]

We know there have been persons reading the threads and passing on comments to the media blowing things out of proportion.

I believe this is just another one of the attempts to try and attack us and make us look like a bunch of unsociable, unlawful, leather clad idiots that dont give a shit about Joe Public.

Might it be that someones getting so worried and is NOW taking underhanded measures to try and win back the public support we gained from the Bikoi?

Perhaps Ixion or someone already known to the public face needs to make contact with the powers of Westfield and denounce this sort of behaviour and have Westfield ask for the paper to either publish a retraction or expose the informant. Not bloody likely I know but at least we can get the message across that we are not wanting to cause public disruption and give us a platform to further expose the real intent of ACC and National to shaft everyone.

[Ixion]

See Les Mason on Page 1 of today's Harold.

[Reckless]

This is a mistake guys.

1. It's on private property and if any mall wants to get shitty they simply stop bikes from useing their car park. You could be asked to leave at a moments notice and what will you have achieved. Nothing and pissed off the public to boot.
(car spacing on the public road is another issue. In fact I have suggested that myself and it's lawfull too providing you feed the metre)

2. At present we have the general public on our side. Any kind of inconveniance to them could be counter productive.

3 It's far too early for alternitive protest action. It's coming on Xmas time when many people will be out and about. They will have other concerns other than ours. In the new year when Parliment comes out of recess would be a better time but keep off private property. You enter on the owners good will...............respect that.

All I can add is to the organisers of this just think this thru.


Skyryder

+1 very Skyrider well put!!

Splitting up the protest actions will divide us as well. Better to have many in one place once per weekend! Plenty of time yet to get more aggressive!

Better to come to Mission Bay Sunday and Possibly Dicko Smiths meeting (Monday 30 November: Public meeting with Hon Nick Smith, Minister for the Environment, Climate Change Issues and ACC, National MP for Nelson, 7.30pm at Royal Akarana Yacht Club, Okahu Bay. Auckland) if it gets properly organized.

Thats enough for one Month IMHO.

[Kiwi Graham:Me]

See Les Mason on Page 1 of today's Harold.

Who is this messiah of whome you speak and what has Harold got to do with him

[Ixion]

Just some cynical old cunt with a giraffe fixation

[wingrider]

Perhaps Ixion or someone already known to the public face needs to make contact with the powers of Westfield and denounce this sort of behaviour and have Westfield ask for the paper to either publish a retraction or expose the informant. Not bloody likely I know but at least we can get the message across that we are not wanting to cause public disruption and give us a platform to further expose the real intent of ACC and National to shaft everyone.

Sorry Les.
I see you already on to it as usual.

[Headbanger]

One man protest action.

Went into town today, Backed the old girl into a car park.

Amusing to watch a constant stream of wagons try and dive into the park only to see my bike and change strategy.



Having said that, I've always parked in car parks.......

[mashman]

Splitting up the protest actions will divide us as well. Better to have many in one place once per weekend! Plenty of time yet to get more aggressive!

how do you beat your arch rival, even if you're outnumbered 100 - 1... Divide and Conquer! United we stand, divided we fall etc...

[kwaka_crasher]

...make us look like a bunch of unsociable, unlawful, leather clad idiots that dont give a shit about Joe Public.

Oh. Well, that's ok then. I thought they were trying to misrepresent us.

[Tank]

See Les Mason on Page 1 of today's Harold.

Who is this messiah of whome you speak?

Typed in my very best Jeremy Clarkson voice:

Some say he breaths pure avg gas and pisses dollar coins.

All we know is that we call him ....

[steve_t]

Having said that, I've always parked in car parks.......

But motorbike parks are free. I'm too tight to pay for parking if I can get it for free

[Ozzie]

It's coming on Xmas time when many people will be out and about. They will have other concerns other than ours. In the new year when Parliment comes out of recess would be a better time

Good point about timing, but I don't know about the private property thing.

We would be legitimate customers, using the parks as intended, on mass.

Perhaps a slight change, take up one full isle, not block the whole place? Make the point of congestion without alienating everyone.

But, fully agree with the timing, and re-itterate, not a flag waving, chanting protest, just going about reasonable business, shopping, having a feed, a browse, just using your bike to get there.