Biker down. Yep I just got bowled...

[Mom]

FWIW, I'm seriously considering upgrading my little 'beep beep' horn to an almighty 'BROAR! BROAR!' industrial sized feckin truck horn when I put the bike back together... You reckon that would have alerted the car driver that I was there...?

You can have Maha's special horn when you bike is back onthe road Scott

[That looks like fun]

Just on that note John, I have a customer who was passed by a group of motorcyclists on the Napier/Taupo road that night who immediately turned to his passenger and said "There's an accident waiting to happen".

Well if he had watched the road and driven defensively instead of chatting to his passenger with a turned head he might not of run into phreak , oh hang on that was an Asian , oops my bad as you were

[MSTRS:Me]

I happen to know of at least one other group of four on the road that night.....

Who passed through much earlier in the evening.
Tony O'K got caught. He had raced at Paeroa and was going home in his van, bike in back. Said he passed that point around 8.30. Got all crossed up, and had no idea why, until he logged into KB the next day.
The affected group of riders would have got there about 8.35-8.40. We were the fourth car to arrive at the scene.

[GOONR]

I know Elliott ave, I used to live there.

It used to be a normal T junction, left / right turn. a few years ago the pavement was built up in such a way that it forced you to point to the left and a no right turn sign was put up. Many locals did not like this. Lots of people still turn right from there but more will approach the junction, not properly check oncoming traffic from the right (cause they are checking for oncoming from their left so they can U turn), turn left then pull a very swift U turn. The U turn would probably see you level with the kindergarten once you have completed it.

[pzkpfw]

Hmmm, how about a G-sensor like in a smart phone or wireless game controller that senses sudden and hard deceleration of the bike and automatically applies the horn for a bit?

That way if you need to "panic brake" the bike takes care of making the angry noise for you.

...able to be switched off (for "track use").

(A bit like the modification (for a car) some Kiwis came up with a few years back that automatically applies the brake light when detecting a sudden lifting of the foot off the accelerator - i.e. the brake light comes on before the foot has moved to the brake pedal, giving a little more warning time to those behind.)

[chasio]

Hmmm, how about a G-sensor like in a smart phone or wireless game controller that senses sudden and hard deceleration of the bike and automatically applies the horn for a bit?

That way if you need to "panic brake" the bike takes care of making the angry noise for you.

...able to be switched off (for "track use").

(A bit like the modification (for a car) some Kiwis came up with a few years back that automatically applies the brake light when detecting a sudden lifting of the foot off the accelerator - i.e. the brake light comes on before the foot has moved to the brake pedal, giving a little more warning time to those behind.)

I can see horn automation causing a lot of issues. Lots of people doing stupid shit just hit their brakes when they hear a horn, regardless of where they are or what is happening around them. If they were to do that in the middle of a u-turn (say because you are braking hard to lose speed and then go around) and they stop dead, your escape options will be severely restricted if they end up across both lanes.

And I must admit, I have pulled that left then right into Kindy routine (not a U-turn on the road) at that junction a handful of times, both in car & on bike (without even mildly inconveniencing any other road user, I hasten to add). I'm sure it happens quite a bit.

Sorry to hear you came to grief.

Chasio

[Fatt Max]

I can see horn automation causing a lot of issues

Too true, I tried to automate my horn but it didnt work out. Every time I walk past a magnet I get a hard on. Then I transplanted my willy for a cucumber, same thing happens when I walk past a salad........oh sorry, off topic.......

[Swoop]

time to 'tootle your horn with vigour'.

Given the incident was a 'right-now' fiasco I too doubt you would have had the time/presence of mind to both brake severely, veer to one side AND use the horn.

Simple. Just hook the horn up to the brake microswitch. Brakes are applied and "Hey presto!" automatic melodious tootling!!!



Do I have to do all the thinking around here?

[Toaster]

A1 with contacting Police, its not about getting the other guy in the shit or teaching him a lesson, its about this thing called "Insurance" ...

... I got taken out from behind once by a "fellow" biker...

Agreed, but always get police to turn up to the scene and make their judgement and confirm details of both parites and take any witness details. Vital for court and for insurance to determine an independent assessment of fault.

... did it hurt?

[That looks like fun]

Agreed, but always get police to turn up to the scene and make their judgement and confirm details of both parites and take any witness details. Vital for court and for insurance to determine an independent assessment of fault.

... did it hurt?

Nah, fortunately I landed on my head
If you have ever slid on your back along the tar-seal and felt the little stones tearing into your back protector you will then know the true worth of good gear
Although my arse was a bit sore from where he tried to stick his bike up it No gear is that good

[jonbuoy]

We're simply never gonna agree and lets leave it at that, but... are you telling me you do a head check and or check your mirror (the right one) when pulling into a driveway (on your right)???

Yes - you don´t?? Nearly collected a cyclist in the past.

[Luckylegs]

Yes - you don´t?? Nearly collected a cyclist in the past.

So, a cyclist was riding up the wrong side of the road?

...and no i don't, why would I

[swbarnett]

there is every chance that the outcome may have been considerably less severe had the group been riding in a more restrained manner.

Or not riding at all. Where does it stop?

[swbarnett]

Yes - you don´t?? Nearly collected a cyclist in the past.

I also check before a right turn, be it driveway or road. If I didn't I wouldn't be here today. While cycling I was just about to do a right turn (sitting just to the left of the centre line) as some dickhead overtook me at a horrendous rate. Had I not checked behind I'd have been cleaned out for sure. As it was I stopped where I was while said dickhead sailed past mere inches away without incident.

[Rych]

I also check before a right turn, be it driveway or road. If I didn't I wouldn't be here today. While cycling I was just about to do a right turn (sitting just to the left of the centre line) as some dickhead overtook me at a horrendous rate. Had I not checked behind I'd have been cleaned out for sure. As it was I stopped where I was while said dickhead sailed past mere inches away without incident.

Yup the exact same reason you should head check before over taking a vehicle in front because another car could be over taking you.