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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    but its not 300k to clean-up a body is it these groups are getting paid regardless they could all be sitting round eating donuts and drinking coffee and we'd still be paying 300K or near to it.
    Thats where you are wrong. As it is an accident and as such ACC picks up the tab for the whole thing.

    And you don't get as many donuts for 300K as you might have thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Littleman View Post
    This thread isn't about you.
    Isn't it ???? Then it's certainly about people like him preaching to people LIKE me ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoristheBiter View Post
    Thats where you are wrong. As it is an accident and as such ACC picks up the tab for the whole thing.

    And you don't get as many donuts for 300K as you might have thought.
    You telling me ACC pay the cops, pay the fire, pay the ambo over & above what the Govt is already paying them???
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    Quote Originally Posted by miloking View Post
    Can someone please look at fucking statistics on HOW MANY motorcyclists killed OTHER road users due to speeding (or being at fault)....because i have a sneaky feeling its NONE! (so fuck your 51% vs 49% of whos at fault)

    So am i being told how to ride to protect other road users?...oh thats right, nanny state is protecting my wellbeing! Well fuck it i didnt ask for it (and pay my ACC from wage) so mind you own fucking business...
    Happened to be one the other day in the Coromandel I believe - cornered too fast, crossed the centre-line and head on into another bike ... another last year (I believe) in the Nelson area - high speed and head on into another bike ...
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    So you're telling me that it costs around $120 million a year average to clean up road fatalities. (Averaging 400 deaths per year)

    Ok, I'll try an itemised receipt.

    Ambo: $20,000
    Fire: $20,000
    Police: $20,000
    Removal of vehicle: $20,000
    Coroner: $20,000
    Investigation: $20,000
    Coffee and Donuts: $180,000

    Even being generous I can not fathom 300K
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    300K? how da hell is it that inefficient & expensive? give me 69K per body & I'll go round doing it that's a 231k per body saving
    Shit ... save all the money ... leave the body where it is as a warning to other road users ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    Happened to be one the other day in the Coromandel I believe - cornered too fast, crossed the centre-line and head on into another bike ... another last year (I believe) in the Nelson area - high speed and head on into another bike ...
    Cool so just 2 in recent years...not bad score considering road toll is 400-ish a year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    Shit ... save all the money ... leave the body where it is as a warning to other road users ...
    Not such a dumb idea as it sounds.
    I mean I have never crashed where others have crashed if they body + bike/car was still there.
    I have always waited for them to clean it up before I crashed there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    Shit ... save all the money ... leave the body where it is as a warning to other road users ...
    hey I want my 69K per body given current rates thats like 27M per year or something i think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    I'll admit it .. I frequently exceed 200 klicks on the open road ... I got a speeding ticket last week (eight days ago) for 120 klicks ... (I was going faster than that .. )

    I haven't had a crash since 1999 .. when some turkey went thru' a give way sign and I hit them ... (They were prosecuted) ...

    Many here would regard me as crazy and dangerous ... as yes, I'm thinking I need to slow down because I now have more than 50 demerit poits, so one high speed ticket (between 135 and 140 klicks) could cost me my licence (again) ... and I'm too old for that shit ... But I'm NOT considering slowing down because I think I'm too dangerous ...
    Hate to say it man.
    But someone who crashes at high speed - usually doesn't get to have these kinds of speeches.....
    Not really food for thought as it is shoving a box of dry wheetbix down your throat. But its true.
    Not saying I don't do it myself........just saying that WHEN I die, if this is the cause, not doubt in my mind that people will say it as it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    Happened to be one the other day in the Coromandel I believe - cornered too fast, crossed the centre-line and head on into another bike ... another last year (I believe) in the Nelson area - high speed and head on into another bike ...
    It has happened four times in the last 2-3 years that I'm aware of, resulting in the deaths of 6 motorcyclists.

    That's one of the things that fucks me off most - motorcyclists don't even seemed to be bothered considering the safety of other motorcyclists these days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    It has happened four times in the last 2-3 years that I'm aware of, resulting in the deaths of 6 motorcyclists.

    That's one of the things that fucks me off most - motorcyclists don't even seemed to be bothered considering the safety of other motorcyclists these days.
    Crossing centre line on a bike is a never good idea... whether the motorcyclists are bothered by safety of others or not.

    Admitedly we are talking about less than 0.25-0.5% of the road toll here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
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    If we all diligently do 100kph, and still have 300 people die per annum, what then...? 90 and 40kph? 70 and 30kph?

    So if speed does kill please tell me what is the magic speed I can go without dying?
    I take it as speed limits being about minimising the potential for accidents; as for "if we all diligently do.....30kph" well, we'll never know will we because the likelihood of it ever happening (and being observed) is non-existent.
    Quote Originally Posted by miloking View Post
    Muppet or not, you missed my point... no amount of legislation is going to protect me from other road users, also shouldnt there be two sets of speed limits then??? one for motorcyclists (since we only endanger ourselves = our choice) and one for car/truck/bus drivers since they are danger to everyone else?
    I don't expect legislation to protect me from other road users - but I do expect my own responsibility to protect myself and those sharing the road with me from me. Wouldn't it be a wonderful thing if everyone on the road placed priority on ensuring self protection and as a tangent from that protecting others from themselves. Oh nos, that might mean I have to ride/drive in a responsible manner and that automatically means I can never have fun!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
    Shit ... save all the money ... leave the body where it is as a warning to other road users ...
    Woo hoo, that would be pretty graphic road kill - eeewww, two possums, five hedgehogs, a couple of pukekos and three riders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BoristheBiter View Post
    The cost of cleaning up a dead body off the road is around 300k.
    Think of all the employment created for 300k. Cops, ambos, towies, undertakers etc. They all deserve employment too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessBandit View Post

    I don't expect legislation to protect me from other road users - but I do expect my own responsibility to protect myself and those sharing the road with me from me. Wouldn't it be a wonderful thing if everyone on the road placed priority on ensuring self protection and as a tangent from that protecting others from themselves. Oh nos, that might mean I have to ride/drive in a responsible manner and that automatically means I can never have fun!!!
    Each time I am having fun...someone pulls me over and tells me i was having the "fun" too fast.
    Even though i try to tell them i was being responsible and if they observed me for bit longer they would see that it was definitely in responsible manner...they still make me pay them some money in the end. They call it some kind of "fun tax" and i just think its unfair....

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