Power to weight restriction

**NighthawkNZ:Me** · 27th January 2011, 11:15

Originally Posted by FJRider

Fair ... getting rid of those bikes would not be required .... just that they would not legally allowed to be ridden without the correct class of licence ...

It would most likely be grandfathered over... meaning no new learner can ride legally on one those bikes... older learners or those on restricted would be allowed to keep what they have etc...

It would be easy enough to police, if the cops knew a bit of maths and what bike is what???

**FJRider** · 27th January 2011, 11:18

Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ

It would be easy enough to police, if the cops knew a bit of maths and what bike is what???

Or ... issued with a list of what is not allowed ...

**neels** · 27th January 2011, 11:22

If they go by the aussie model (which is pretty likely as there would be less work involved) then some yes and some no, only really the 250 2-strokes that are excluded.

See here http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/licensing/...iceriders.html

The main effect would be the arse dropping out of the market for 20 year old 4 cylinder 250's.

**nosebleed** · 27th January 2011, 11:23

Wasn't really a "few" questions was it?

Surely "For those already on the smaller quick bikes like CBR250RR ZXR250 FZR250 GSXR250 and NSR TZR RGV, will they be forced to get rid of their bikes? That would be really unfair if so. ." will depend entirely on what the ratio turns out to be.

**Smifffy** · 27th January 2011, 11:34

Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ

It would most likely be grandfathered over... meaning no new learner can ride legally on one those bikes... older learners or those on restricted would be allowed to keep what they have etc...

I'd say fuck 'em - sort their shit out and go for their full before it came in. WTF anyone would want to run around on an L or R for the rest of their life is beyond me.

**FJRider** · 27th January 2011, 11:37

Originally Posted by neels

The main effect would be the arse dropping out of the market for 20 year old 4 cylinder 250's.

Or the 250 market as a whole ...

**MSTRS:Me** · 27th January 2011, 14:36

It is in the pipeline. End of this year, I believe.
The Oz model is essentially adopted, with a variety of bikes up to 660cc allowed for learners. Some under this will not be allowed...including 250cc 2-stroke RR-type and any RR-type 4 stroke over 250cc. In fact, I'd say you'd be lucky to find any 4 cylinder 4 stroke over 400cc is allowed.
The list is compiled using a bike's rated HP, weight and assuming a rider weight of 90kg to determine P/W ratio.

**racefactory** · 27th January 2011, 20:00

MSTRS- just wondering from where do you believe it will take place this year?

I have a few questions:

Does anyone know when it is going to take place for sure?

Will the fine for breaking the restriction still remain at $100?

Will the time to wait until being able to sit full license be the same after the new rules? Eg. someone is 1 month away from getting their full license and then the rule takes place not allowing them to sit it for another year or what have you. Or is this just a power to weight restriction on learners and restricted licenses and not a change of the time require to hold each one?

**FJRider** · 27th January 2011, 20:08

Originally Posted by racefactory

Does anyone know when it is going to take place for sure?

Will the fine for breaking the restriction still remain at $100?

expect more ... with demerits ....

**racefactory** · 27th January 2011, 20:30

I've been on my learners for eternity now and never got around to upgrading until recently. I'm wondering if the changes will make me have to wait even longer for my full now. I don't mind so much if the fine remains at $100 though.

**Smifffy** · 27th January 2011, 20:39

Originally Posted by racefactory

I've been on my learners for eternity now and never got around to upgrading until recently. I'm wondering if the changes will make me have to wait even longer for my full now. I don't mind so much if the fine remains at $100 though.

Maybe you should have gotten around to it sooner. What was the hold up?

**racefactory** · 27th January 2011, 22:10

I know, probably should have got around to it more soon. Well a good couple of years ago would have done.

I don't know, just never got around to it. License restrictions never caused me any grief really. $100 is not much to pay if I was ever pulled over but I never really ride like a raving lunatic in built up public areas to deserve police attention anyway.

Restricted test tomorrow!!! If I fail it'll be epic... will be sure not to bring the 996 though.