Secret abortions for under 18s? Good shit.

[avgas]

Or you really want to just blame it on being young and reckless...

Ah I see your point now.
To be honest I put my experiences down as just that (but I guess it could happen to old people - but being young makes it easier). I wanted to learn things by doing them. I am not saying that I would have stabbed something or raped someone "just for the sake of it".......but when your young you are on the whole learning path so stuff like sex is a part of it.

I imagine many people told you already that riding a bike could get you killed......well I got told that not wearing a condom could get some chick pregnant..... took me a while to actually thinking what that meant.

I still ride bikes regardless. Its my last "Fuck you world - I'm gonna do it anyway, try and kill me!"
I just ride slower , oh and the sex with no condom thing doesn't matter anymore as I am happily married and kids are choice now.

But 10 years ago, rooting some chick without a condom or doing 200kph on the SH was good fun according to my brain. I knew better......but FUN > Being reasonable. I imagine some chicks were the same as they were happy to do both those things.......however a month or so later, would have been kinda cool if they were allowed to have an abortion without asking parents (their choice of course).
As for crashing a vehicle at 100+km.........ain't no backup plan for that unfortunately. Which is probably why I feel old and agree with katman far too much.......I would much rather debate on whether abortion is ok than decide where roadside crosses should go......

[marie_speeds]

I suppose the good thing about schools picking and choosing what they will or won't tell parents and setting this sort of precedent, is that the next time an issue of uniform, books, behaviour, trips, school fees etc etc comes up I will gladly tell school to go ask the counsellor for their opinion, money and consent.....


And as I found out recently being a teen today is so different!

My 17 year old nephew was recently telling me about "A" who used to live around the corner from me as a child before moving....well the other weekend at a party she first went off into the bushes in back yard with this guy, then a short time later she was off with this other guy and so forth etc etc etc The list went on..... All up 8 guys in one night at this party.... when I commented about what the hell is wrong with her and where are her friends in all this, he replied "all the girls from school do it like that every weekend so why would they bother wondering where she was, and most likely they were off with other guys somewhere else anyway"

I then asked if he partook and got a very guarded and unconvincing nooooo.... He then openly admitted yes but that she and all the other girls at his school were sluts and "it's not like I'd marry a slapper like that". I then proceeded to tell him that if he made me a grand aunt before I was 40 years old I would make his life not worth living.......

[ducatilover]

Sex is ugly hippie shit.

[Edbear]

I suppose the good thing about schools picking and choosing what they will or won't tell parents and setting this sort of precedent, is that the next time an issue of uniform, books, behaviour, trips, school fees etc etc comes up I will gladly tell school to go ask the counsellor for their opinion, money and consent.....


And as I found out recently being a teen today is so different!

My 17 year old nephew was recently telling me about "A" who used to live around the corner from me as a child before moving....well the other weekend at a party she first went off into the bushes in back yard with this guy, then a short time later she was off with this other guy and so forth etc etc etc The list went on..... All up 8 guys in one night at this party.... when I commented about what the hell is wrong with her and where are her friends in all this, he replied "all the girls from school do it like that every weekend so why would they bother wondering where she was, and most likely they were off with other guys somewhere else anyway"

I then asked if he partook and got a very guarded and unconvincing nooooo.... He then openly admitted yes but that she and all the other girls at his school were sluts and "it's not like I'd marry a slapper like that". I then proceeded to tell him that if he made me a grand aunt before I was 40 years old I would make his life not worth living.......

Did you also point out that he was effectively also having sex with all the other guys as well and the incidence of STD's is high and rising in NZ, particularly Gonorrhea and show him its symptoms?

[superman]

Did you also point out that he was effectively also having sex with all the other guys as well and the incidence of STD's is high and rising in NZ, particularly Gonorrhea and show him its symptoms?

Lol yeah....

Stick with a virgin and it shall be sweet

[ducatilover]

Lol yeah....

Stick with a virgin and it shall be sweet

You can....I much prefer one that knows what to do with a knob

[superman]

You can....I much prefer one that knows what to do with a knob

No, no. You don't see the main benefit. You can teach her to do things exactly as you like it, rather than receive possible bad habits off previous "freaky" bf's!

[Edbear]

No, no. You don't see the main benefit. You can teach her to do things exactly as you like it, rather than receive possible bad habits off previous "freaky" bf's!

Not to mention what the previous BF's have transmitted along the way...

[ducatilover]

No, no. You don't see the main benefit. You can teach her to do things exactly as you like it, rather than receive possible bad habits off previous "freaky" bf's!

Nah, I like variety and a challenge.....
Sometimes it's worrying when a finger gets rammed up the old you-know-what, but, anything goes in the heat of the moment

[imdying]

Extreme examples or not, it highlights why your position is ridiculous.


We are well beyond the point where the population needs in increase in numbers. Humans are just becoming a parasite that is going to overpower the ecosystem.

It shouldn't be about whether to allow abortions or not, or should be about when are we going to instigate a system that requires a license to breed. Not that the license should neccesarily be difficult to obtain, but breeding willy nilly is going to go pear shaped sooner rather than later.

[scracha]

with a condom on. Though funnily enough it broke...

There's no excuses.

Whatever. Broke = fell off

[Geeen]

Sex is ugly hippie shit.

Depends how much you get

[scracha]

Will never alter the fact that it is the most inhumane and cruel thing one can do to another human being. Stats don't make up for the pain and suffering and callous disregard for the innocent victims.

There are plenty worse things you can do to a human being than kill them.

The most humane thing you could do in a lot of countries is hand out condoms, birth control pills and provide free abortions.

[\m/]

Up the bum, no babies.

[The Stranger:Me]

This lady honestly needs to pull her head in, if her daughter was uncomfortable telling her mum then she needs to realise that she's put the relationship in a state where the daughter isn't willing to communicate. Be pissed off at yourself, not at the law there to protect your daughter.

Not commenting on the abortion aspect, but your argument re the relationship between mother and daughter is possibly over simplistic.

Perhaps the daughter has so much respect for the mother she doesn't want to be seen to be letting her down. Respect is a powerful thing and kids will often go to great lengths to respect their parents views - or what they perceive to be respect for their parents.

This is not a bad thing nor a sign of bad parenting.