Dealer apathy?

[blackdog]

I would be surprised if Pete doesn't have emails that match Trashy's aswell.

[Maha]

I would be surprised if Pete doesn't have emails that match Trashy's aswell.

...the only difference will be that Petes ones have coffee stains (or such like) on them.

[jmmk]

Actually, working in such a small industry it pisses me off when people want to make bogus claims that "only one person in the whole Wellington region got back to me" when it's quite simply not true. That's why it's important for me to call you out. Because you're talking crap.

So which is it? 2 or 3 replied or "only Carl from Motorad" because now I'm confused.

A simple search through some of my posts will enlighten you as to who I am and where I work. As to not wanting to help you out, I'm really more than happy to. I enjoy assisting fellow bikers and I'm paid well to do it.

Again Really?
WTF would I want to do any business with you? It seems more important to you to call me out then help. How the hell would you know how many replies I get back? Do you have access to my email? Go back to my post 2 back explaining the 2 or 3 and the 1 in my OP. But good job "calling me out" though.

[Bassmatt]

Again Really?
WTF would I want to do any business with you? It seems more important to you to call me out then help. How the hell would you know how many replies I get back? Do you have access to my email? Go back to my post 2 back explaining the 2 or 3 and the 1 in my OP. But good job "calling me out" though.

Stay in Canada, you seem like a wanker.

[jmmk]

Stay in Canada, you seem like a wanker.

Nice good one. What are you 7?

[5150]

Not to step on anyones toes, or take sides, But I too had a similar experience about 6 mnths ago. And I live here in NZ. I was looking to upgrade, and wennt on Motorcycle Trader website, where I found about 8 possible bikes that I liked. 2 of them were at the same dealership. So I have emailed all 7 dealers around the country, and only ever got a reply back from 2 of them. I thought that maybe my emails weren't getting through so I have emailed the other 5 again and still nothing. I guess they weren't interested in getting my business. I went and saw the other 2 and got a very warm reception and great help. I was clear in my intentions and both offered to give me the bikes for a test run so i could experience the difference for my self knowing that I possibly would not buy their particular bike anyway.

[Metastable]

Dude - although you probably don't mean it, you're sounding a touch harsh. I can understand your frustration of not getting e-mail responses and some places not even having e-mail contact information or websites. I have found it a bit strange how many businesses in NZ do not have a web page. Although, I haven't been looking at bikes.

However, coming in here and pretty much telling motorcycle industry where to go probably won't help you solve your problems.

Maybe a little more tact next time. "Hey guys I am having a difficult time getting answers from motorcycle dealers...."

Here is another suggestion, feel free to do what you want. Get yourself a calling card or similar. It is quite reasonable to call NZ from Toronto as long as you are not calling a mobile number. My wife paid $20cnd and got something like +300 minutes of calling NZ. 1866 619 7708 to pay the money. Then you call 1866-301-9461 hit 1 or something for English and it will tell you to punch in your number. You might know this already, but it is 011 - 64 (NZ country code) - then the rest of the phone number, just don't dial their 0 before their local area codes. It will then tell you how many minutes you have available for your call.

Note -> I have noticed that I get A LOT more traction with NZ companies if I talk to them on the phone first. They will take you more seriously after you have established phone contact. Then you can use E-mail effectively. Try this and you might find that it works better for you. Plus one thing I will note, they tend to actually ANSWER the phone more often than similar Canadian companies.

BTW - have fun when you get there. Wellington is a beautiful area... and you are always a quick jump to the South Island.

[Oblivion]

Dude - although you probably don't mean it, you're sounding a touch harsh. I can understand your frustration of not getting e-mail responses and some places not even having e-mail contact information or websites. I have found it a bit strange how many businesses in NZ do not have a web page. Although, I haven't been looking at bikes.

However, coming in here and pretty much telling motorcycle industry where to go probably won't help you solve your problems.

May I suggest a little more tact next time. "Hey guys I am having a difficult time getting answers from motorcycle dealers...."

Here is another suggestion, feel free to do what you want. Get yourself a calling card or similar. It is quite reasonable to call NZ from Toronto as long as you are not calling a mobile number. My wife paid $20cnd and got something like +300 minutes of calling NZ. 1866 619 7708 to pay the money. Then you call 1866-301-9461 hit 1 or something for English and it will tell you to punch in your number. You might know this already, but it is 011 - 64 (NZ country code) - then the rest of the phone number, just don't dial their 0 before their local area codes. It will then tell you how many minutes you have available for your call.

Note -> I have noticed that I get A LOT more traction with NZ companies if I talk to them on the phone first. They will take you more seriously after you have established phone contact. Then you can use E-mail effectively. Try this and you might find that it works better for you. Plus one thing I will note, they tend to actually ANSWER the phone more often than similar Canadian companies.

BTW - have fun when you get there. Wellington is a beautiful area... and you are always a quick jump to the South Island.

^ Exactly.

If you want someone to be nice to you and give you a good deal, FFS know how to do it. Not this, I didnt get an email back, they must be assholes biz you got going on.

And White Trash was saying how he would gladly give you his time to sort something out. And you just wind up at him.

Sort your shit out before you come over here.

[pzkpfw]

... Sort your shit out before you come over here.

Actually, I think he'll fit right in! Most of us over here are wankers too.



(Personally, I suspect his emails start with "I'm working on an oil rig and want to buy a bike I've never seen, for more than you've advertised it for. Please pay for the freight by Western Union"... or something like that.)

[tigertim20]

Cannot believe how little many dealers seem to care about new business there. I have emailed more than once about 9 or 10 dealers in and around Wellington and the only guy to get back to me is Carl from Motorad. I stated in emails what I was looking for when I get there in about a month and a half which translates to somewhere between $10,000.00 and 20,000.00. I guess good old Carl will be getting my business. Just a little rant wondering why most of these dealers even have contact info on their websites.
Anyone here had dealings with Motorad and care to enlighten me if they are good to deal with?

If I was the owner, Id be hesiatant to take an email only cob=ntact seriously if the person said they wanna spend 20k. Id think most people spending 20k would turn upm, look at the shop, look at the stock, and feel it all out before investing that much hard earned cash.

Really Jeff?

Firstly, there's only 5 dealers in the Wellington region and I personally have email exchanges between you and myself dating back to May 31, last one being yesterday.

For the record, I'm not Carl and I don't work at Motorad.

So I guess one of us is telling half truths.

well thas interesting!

2 or 3? in the original post it was only one?

and the whole gets deeper . . .

[Oblivion]

Actually, I think he'll fit right in! Most of us over here are wankers too.



(Personally, I suspect his emails start with "I'm working on an oil rig and want to buy a bike I've never seen, for more than you've advertised it for. Please pay for the freight by Western Union"... or something like that.)

My uncle has left a $2 Trillion Zimbabwean inheritance that I would like to share with you. I would like to sneak it out of the country, So could you give me your bank account details so I could make a deposit.

I promise you'll get half

[James Deuce]

This is why I refuse to help Canadian tourists. They're descended from drunken Scots and lying Frenchmen. They look all mild and innocuous, eh, but the reality is that haggis and garlic create raging Internet warriors who forget that they may need to buy a tyre (see how that's spelled?) or get service done by some of these dealers just north of Wellington.

Have a nice trip.

[Kickaha]

This is why I refuse to help Canadian tourists.

I thought he sounded American with that attitude

[Oblivion]

This is why I refuse to help Canadian tourists. They're descended from drunken Scots and lying Frenchmen. They look all mild and innocuous, eh, but the reality is that haggis and garlic create raging Internet warriors who forget that they may need to buy a tyre (see how that's spelled?) or get service done by some of these dealers just north of Wellington.

Have a nice trip.

[James Deuce]

I thought he sounded American with that attitude

Might be the result of a cross border fling. Mind you I don't help them either. They broke the world and want everyone else to pay for it.