Ha! Take that Mr Smith!

[5150]

hmmm, black market engineering, I could get in on that

I can also see a business opportunity in that

[SPman]

Katman, the reality is they can't even stop the natives of New Zealand from killing their own babies, they'll never be able to stop you riding your Katana.

And that includes the white fellas, that make up over half the statistics, but don't get any of the headlines.......

[pete376403]

Except they still stuck on the 18 times more likely stats crap they swallowed from dodgy Nick.

Didn't that number originally start at "16 time more likely..."?

[Big Dave]

RGV 250cc bike can piss all over a 1150 or 1200cc Harley Davidson.

I get your point, but it's not an entirely accurate statement. An XR1200X will smoke it. A Pan head - OK.

[5150]

I get your point, but it's not an entirely accurate statement. An XR1200X will smoke it. A Pan head - OK.

My point was that cc rating should not determine the level of risk of injury. You can do as much damage on a 125cc learner as you can on a 1200 cc cruiser or 1000cc sports bike. And that is not taking into account of ratio of who was at fault. If the roads we ride on are bad quality then no wander we have more accidents. For government it's easier to tax us more then having to fork out to fix every road we ride on. Why not make roads better quality and spend money on rider and car driver education. I can wager that accident/ serious injury / death rate would fall dramatically.

[Kickaha]

My point was that cc rating should not determine the level of risk of injury. You can do as much damage on a 125cc learner as you can on a 1200 cc cruiser or 1000cc sports bike.

You're not taking into account people riding bigger more expensive" bikes are likely to be on higher wages which are also paid by ACC at 80%?

[Ocean1]

Love the quote about the increase % of m/bike accidents which completely overlooks the fact that the number of motorbikes has also increased significantly over the decades and as an accident % of total motorbike numbers the accident rate has actually decreased.

And the bit about the 35 - 50 year old BAB lemmings dying in their droves...

Is actually a huge hump in the riding demographic. The group's accident rate is actually the lowest and is trending down.

[Ocean1]

the number of actual motorcyclists probably hasn't risen at the same rate.

Probably?

Probably?

Front up with the numbers or fuck off.

[Winston001]

Assuming ACC and Nick Smith have got it wrong, with an election looming (only 8 weeks away) this is an easy way to attack the government.


So - which political parties have said they will lower motorcycle levies?

Which political parties have said they will lower ACC levies?

[Brian d marge]

I'm alright, popo do sod all and ergo isn't too bad ...thirty thousand odd every two years, I've pissed that up in a night down the pub ...
but there was a comment earlier in this thread, why hasn't labour done or spouted anything
possibly, not worth the vote 2/5th of sod all of the population
or they have been "advised "

either way the garlic crunching surrender monies have bigger balls than the kiwis ...at least they do " something "

be interesting to see the court figures for no rego

stephen

[James Deuce]

If you have a fuel efficient motorcycle, you're doing it wrong. Last thing bikers need is a Green MP to anoint motorcycles as transport. Just goes to show he is utterly ignorant of the modern motorcycling zeitgeist.

For goodness sake, he'll have us all on Brammos which have a 60km radius and a decent night's sleep recharge time.

[tri boy]

Hmm, lets see.
Went for a weekend ride on the XRL. No rego.
Rode the Scrambler into work. No rego. Just comeback from a fang on kanny's KLE up the valley. No rego.

Well the lack of that little bit of paper doesn't stop the wheels turning.

[Zedder]

Assuming ACC and Nick Smith have got it wrong, with an election looming (only 8 weeks away) this is an easy way to attack the government.


So - which political parties have said they will lower motorcycle levies?

Which political parties have said they will lower ACC levies?

None to my knowledge Winston. It's like it's going the other way though with how "unsafe bikers are" in order to focus the rest of the population on that.

[Sarah311]

And still no levy for Cyclists (on the same page as the initial story was "injured cyclist"), none for skateboards, snow boards, BMX, Mountain Bikes, dick heads who go walkies when it's going to snow and need a helicopter to rescue them followed by some hospital treatment and recovery.... and so it goes on.
Yep Phill does ride a Triumph, unfortunately he doesn't ride popularity - so not much chop there.
$200 for a "non registered" fine is sweet really - need at least 3 before it becomes uneconomic - demerits as threatened are more of an issue, but all things have risk.
Does this make me a better rider, Nah; does it make me have more respect for Police - those who enforce it, Nope; does it make me think "Ooh, I should be a sheeple like the rest and be compliant" - hell no; does it make me want to have even bigger fingers that I may raise one to the dumb fucks who have no business concept of how to increase revenue without alienating the very people who enable their existence - Sure Does!!
Their science was shown to be completely bullshit, and they continue to make substantial profit year on year - like that was a surprise....

[puddytat]

If you have a fuel efficient motorcycle, you're doing it wrong. Last thing bikers need is a Green MP to anoint motorcycles as transport. Just goes to show he is utterly ignorant of the modern motorcycling zeitgeist.

For goodness sake, he'll have us all on Brammos which have a 60km radius and a decent night's sleep recharge time.

Yer what? What the fuck are you talking about man,& who?

I emailed the Greens today & am awaiting a reply