BMW excluded from BEARS in the Tri Series!

[sinfull]

so is the better way to exclude a large proportion of the slower riders then cause they're too slow?

Pre 89 ? No wait that's taken, ummmm carb only ? Eeeeew think that's just been snapped up ?
Ahhh fuggit just tell them that match SB speeds they can't enter bears ? Hmmmm wonder how that'll go down ??

[jellywrestler]

Why the need to exclude anyone? Its racing isn't it? Best equipment and rider win on the day

Maybe the Coroners report into the fatality at Paeroa last year could give you a clue where the bikes on the grid particularly on a street circuit are just so far apart that's it's getting dangerous.
I'd support the organisers making a call to reduce the risks a little than the Coroners putting their rubber stamp on all meetings after somethings turned to custard.
Spyda

[flame]

Im totally annoyed by this 'ruling' if it is correct. No longer a BEARs class, but instead a Ducati fest! (dont get me wrong, I love Duc's). I had considered entering my RSV4, Im sure as heck no threat at all to the front runners, but now I dont even have the choice to compete!!
To the Major Sponsor of Tri Series....."what do you class as a BEARs bike?...and maybe you could consider re-naming the class if this is the case?"

[flame]

Mate that information came directly from the organisers (your) mouth that it was suzukis decision.

It was also said that you were very lucky to be even running a BEARS class due to the fact Suzuki could not race.

Regardless of all this I dont think it is such a bad decision and I dont think there is any conspiracy on it from Suzukis behalf, they are the major sponsor of the series and they are just trying to make it as good as possible. Having a couple of bikes 10 secs a lap faster then anything else looks a bit odd.

There needs to be a better line in the sand drawn though, excluding a few bikes or a few riders because they are too fast is not the way.

If the decision gets changed its gonna hurt me anyway cause im riding the HP2.

Its not fair on people like Vicky on the RSV4 though

Thanks Chop, yeah its pretty unfair, I had considered doing BEARs at Wanga's this year, lucky I changed my mind a couple of weeks ago, cause I would have been WELL disapointed by this news if I hadn't. Still....the option was still there and a consideration for Manfield, but I guess now it's not .

[Tony.OK]

Maybe the Coroners report into the fatality at Paeroa last year could give you a clue where the bikes on the grid particularly on a street circuit are just so far apart that's it's getting dangerous.
I'd support the organisers making a call to reduce the risks a little than the Coroners putting their rubber stamp on all meetings after somethings turned to custard.
Spyda

Perhaps, but that would apply to all classes at street races would it not?
Seen plenty of ppl being lapped in most classes.........why single out 1 class?

A good rider on the lastest Duc won't be within cooey of a fast BMW? HA!

Kinda negates your theory really aye.

[dangerous]

Why the need to exclude anyone? Its racing isn't it? Best equipment and rider win on the day


Maybe they just need to call the class something else?

right on it man, 1st line couldnt agree more, 2nd line perhaps a cc and cyclinder limit class

[Mental Trousers]

Keep making rulings like that and my little 450 could be competitive in BEARS!!!

[Kickaha]

If it isn't written into the supplementary regulations you could probably tell them to get lost and enter anyway


CHAPTER FIVE
b. “Acceptance of the entry form is at the discretion of the club or promoter and may
be declined by the club or Promoter. The Club and/ or Promoter must ensure that
the declining is in good faith and for valid reasons.


So whats the valid reason?

[slowpoke]

Im sure as heck no threat at all to the front runners, but now I dont even have the choice to compete!!

Sure you do, just enter F1. There's no difference racing against Choppa on his S1000RR in BEAR's than there is racing against him in F1. Just do it Vick, your luvverly wee RSV4 would be awesome 'round Wanga's, and you're plenty quick enough.

[DMack]

WOW those bmw's must be so fast to be banned, i wont buy any other brand from now on and must go test ride a new BMW tomorrow.......

[flame]

Sure you do, just enter F1. There's no difference racing against Choppa on his S1000RR in BEAR's than there is racing against him in F1. Just do it Vick, your luvverly wee RSV4 would be awesome 'round Wanga's, and you're plenty quick enough.

Cheers Slowpoke, but Im not fast enough to be mixing it with a full field of fast boys in F1 Nationals level, I'd get in their way in the 20 lappers on Manfield for sure. I think I'd need to be doing consistant 12's tops. Im still stuck on 15's and 14's on a good day .

[gixerracer]

Cheers Slowpoke, but Im not fast enough to be mixing it with a full field of fast boys in F1 Nationals level, I'd get in their way in the 20 lappers on Manfield for sure. I think I'd need to be doing consistant 12's tops. Im still stuck on 15's and 14's on a good day .

Mate enter the series in Bears, based on what I got told today you would be allowed compete

[Kickaha]

If it isn't written into the supplementary regulations you could probably tell them to get lost and enter anyway

Ah crap it is written into them

14. Organisers reserve the right to accept or decline any entry and/or cross-entry into any class.

[ttelp15]

Heres the deal with what the organisers spoke to Choppa about today. We rate Choppa, and a couple of others, as (in his case F1) genuine title contenders for the Tri Series. Its because of this fact that we felt (along with a host of feed back from people from last years series(competitors and non-competitors alike)) that he had an unfair advantage getting double the track time (and hence double the set up time) than his rivals have. We run one day meetings, and track time is very precious for everyone and to us it just seems fair that genuine title contenders all get the same time to sort their kit out, and not get bonus time just because their bike is built somewhere other than Japan. Theres a lot of people and businesses putting in a great deal of money to run at that pointy end of race classes, and the fairer we can make it for ALL the better. I'm sure if the shoe was on the other foot and Choppa was sitting in his pit garage on race day watching rivals like Cole, Stroud, Shirriffs, Bugden etc roll down pit lane for another "Land of the Rising Sun" race class practice, he would feel a little hard done by. The ruling we are making on this class effects maybe 2 or 3 people I would think (John Ross to name another). Nowhere have we said that BMW S1000RR, Aprilia RSV4s, Ducati 1198Rs are no longer welcome in this class. And we welcome Choppa to ride Bears - but on another bike other than his F1. He has agreed to ride the HP2 in Bears, and thats great. Maybe he'll still win on that anyway - but at least he hasn't had extra track time to sort out his F1 bike to F1 title rivals.
So, we welcome entries from people riding S1000s, RSVs etc. And those people are welcome to enter whatever other class their bike might suit - be it F1, F2 - whatever. And as far as the comments go that this is Suzukis doing - it isn't!! In fact, you can thank them for Bears being included in the Tri Series. We weren't originally going to run them again, but Suzuki liked the idea of a "point of difference" class.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Thanks for clearing that up...I think it's more than fair!