So they found the cunt, and he's sixteen years old

**Virago** · 29th December 2011, 09:44

I utterly deplore such acts of extreme violence. People who commit such crimes should have their testicles cut off and then be forced to eat them, and have all their arms and legs cut off really slowly, and and and be kept alive as long as possible for more torture, and and and when they die they should be resusitated so they can be forced to watch us torture their families, and and and then we can poke their eyes out with a burning stick and and and...

**FJRider** · 29th December 2011, 09:48

Originally Posted by Virago

I utterly deplore such acts of extreme violence. People who commit such crimes should have their testicles cut off and then be forced to eat them, and have all their arms and legs cut off really slowly, and and and be kept alive as long as possible for more torture, and and and when they die they should be resusitated so they can be forced to watch us torture their families, and and and then we can poke their eyes out with a burning stick and and and...

... the soft option ...

**blue rider** · 29th December 2011, 10:00

Originally Posted by Virago

I utterly deplore such acts of extreme violence. People who commit such crimes should have their testicles cut off and then be forced to eat them, and have all their arms and legs cut off really slowly, and and and be kept alive as long as possible for more torture, and and and when they die they should be resusitated so they can be forced to watch us torture their families, and and and then we can poke their eyes out with a burning stick and and and...

Originally Posted by FJRider

... the soft option ...

maybe this will satisfy

**jonbuoy** · 29th December 2011, 10:24

Some people are just plain evil, the pc brigade are right the cycle does need to be stopped - nip this one in the bud - castrate him so he can¨t breed.

**meteor** · 29th December 2011, 10:26

Originally Posted by Hitcher

If they are not proven guilty, then we should presume their innocence.

Another theory is that if they are not proven guilty, they are just not proven guilty. It doesn't mean they are innocent. It means the weight of evidence wasn't enough to prove beyond a reasonable doubt to convince a Judge or a Jury, not that there was no evidence. Bear in mind that the goal posts of 'beyond reasonable doubt' have moved to 'beyond the shadow of a doubt' and theat many people get acquited on technicalities when they are guilty. Also Juries only get to see the evidence that is admissable, not all the evidence available. Defence councils get to paw over all the evidence before a Jury hears it and has time to 'construct' a defence... that's their job. The 'justice' system is a big game, it's not about right and wrong, innocent or guilty... and some peole make a lot of money out of that game!

**placidfemme** · 29th December 2011, 11:05

It's just sad. Wrong and immoral.

Now we can all relax, sit back and watch the criminal get more rights than the victim... again.

Justice will not be served, a vigilante won't avenge this waste of skin for that child.

Belguim will have a very tainted view of NZ, and until next time, we can bitch about our country some more.

All we can hope is that the little girl is given every ounce of support and love that she will need to walk her life carrying this scar.

**Stirts** · 29th December 2011, 11:19

Originally Posted by placidfemme

All we can hope is that the little girl is given every ounce of support and love that she will need to walk her life carrying this scar.

I am sure she will, if she leaves NZ of course. Generally "organisations/agencies" don't put priority and resources into the needs and support for our victims, only our criminals!

But how awesome did the locals in Turangi do!!! $13,000 raised to support her

now THAT did make me proud to say I am a NZer!!!

**DMNTD:Me** · 29th December 2011, 11:57

Originally Posted by jonbuoy

...the pc brigade are right the cycle does need to be stopped - nip this one in the bud - castrate him so he can¨t breed.

Sure but it's that same pc brigade that won't allow the chop of the weener's bits.
Bring back (genuine) discipline both at home and in schools (I'm not talking the 'bash').
Consiquences...where has it gone?

**mashman** · 29th December 2011, 12:03

Sounds like they both need different forms of support. Hope that her only being 5 goes in her favour and that she isn't reminded of such a horrific act every day and she may get over it. Personally, I'd like to see the teen buried alive, but I guess everyone deserves a second chance.

**SS90** · 29th December 2011, 12:31

Originally Posted by placidfemme

It's just sad. Wrong and immoral.

Belguim will have a very tainted view of NZ, and until next time, we can bitch about our country some more.

I find that unlikely..... if any Belgian (or European for that matter) was to make snide comments about safety of kids in NZ, they would do well to remember the Belgian serial killer/Pedo/ all round sick fuck Mark Dutroix (and his gang of oxygen thiefs and Wife), as well as the fact that there is a proven cover up, as his Pedo ring involved powerful members of parliament, or Austrias Joseph Fritzel (I am sure everyone knows that story.)

bottom line.... Don't trust any Europeans with a basement.

Thats no joke.....

I don't want to take away from this horrible act, but there was a higher chance of this happening on their own country than NZ

Belgium has one of the highest rates of missing kids in the EU.

P.S...... Let's sodomize the guilty offender with a soldering iron...... Every Wednesday for the rest of his life ( a long one)

**Hitcher** · 29th December 2011, 12:40

Originally Posted by Winston001

Maybe I missed something or are you assuming the planning? It sounds like an opportunist crime so far.

Call me old fashioned, but anybody who has had their eye on a caravan containing two sleeping children, one of whom (the little girl) they had clearly sussed out and had intentions upon, then waited for parents to wander off and be out of range for a period of time, before entering the caravan and then locking the door, hardly seems to me like an opportunist crime.

**Hitcher** · 29th December 2011, 12:46

Originally Posted by kiwifruit

I feel sorry for the offender. Imagine what it's like existing within his mind.... it'd be a scary place to be.

Or not. People who have no concept of right or wrong, nor of actions and consequences probably have a blissful existence. They are the centre of a universe around which everything else rotates. From their perspective, life is probably all about them and their needs being met on their terms. If they started a political party it would probably be called New Zealand First.

**nothingflash** · 29th December 2011, 12:48

Originally Posted by Mom

As do the poor fuckers that have never stood a chance in their own lives.

I keep my pits and legs well groomed, but the regrowth is rampant and sometimes really hard to deal with!

Educate yourself a bit further. It truely is a sad and real fact of our society that we have this sort of "event", and I believe we are all responsible in part for it. The same goes for any abuse against children.

I dont know squat about the person arrested for what happened, only that he is 16 and has been raised (I hesitate to say dragged up) without the correct, acceptable values that most of us accept and expect as normal. Not his fault really, he is a product of his environment and culture.

The more we stand up on our high horses and spout about how the "Dickheads" behave the less likely we are to actually see anything change. We all need to get out there and DO SOMETHING to help.

Oh, shit, I got my soap box out again.

Originally Posted by Berries

What's this "we" shit?

Have to agree there. What is the SOMETHING that you think we all need to get out there and do that will help?

**Mully** · 29th December 2011, 13:04

Well, yes, there's "innocent until proven guilty" and all that.

However, while the Police did arrest the suspect, my understanding was that he handed himself in at the Cop Shop yesterday - I'm no lawyer, but that tends to hint towards them having the right person.

How about (if he's found guilty), we let the girl's parents choose the punishment?