Crashed!

[FJRider]

Lots of us think the risk is acceptable, for the gains to be had.

I think it is PERFECTLY safe to ride through traffic within a certain speed differential. Which should be decided on a moment by moment basis. I have done it stupidly, and paid for it.

Half a moment of careless action by the operator(s) of a vehicle(s) near you ... leaves you a half moment to get clear. Will that be long enough ???

[bsasuper]

I may not be perfect, but that is one detail, out of about 50+ that I am constantly observing as I filter through traffic.

Im surprised you have time to look where you are going then

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAioiUn5_6w

[The Singing Chef]

So,
What have we learnt from this thread......
Do Not come on here and start a thread with "Crashed" anywhere in the title....

Now, as for Lane splitting:
Yes, I have done it, but like Drew, stick to a speed differential, and also keep your situational awareness.
I think I lost interest when the OP didn't actually know where on the road they were when they got hit.

I may not be perfect, but that is one detail, out of about 50+ that I am constantly observing as I filter through traffic.

You would think people would learn by now? Maybe we need a sticky about this.

Im surprised you have time to look where you are going then

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAioiUn5_6w

I use mainly my peripheral vision and feel to determine what side I am on if I don't have the time to look away. You sure know when you hit the cat's eyes and either move to one side of them, unless you feel like a bumpy ride.

[FJRider]

You would think people would learn by now? Maybe we need a sticky about this.

Perhaps lane splitting be included in the restricted test.

However ... blood is sticky enough. And once you see blood (your own especially) .... You will remember.

I use mainly my peripheral vision and feel to determine what side I am on if I don't have the time to look away. You sure know when you hit the cat's eyes and either move to one side of them, unless you feel like a bumpy ride.

I use my spidey senses ... and the little voices in my head. My mind reading skills fade pretty quickly though. But they do eat into the concentration needed to stay upright .... so it's not that bad.
If you laugh ... (I did once) ... but considering the number of times the voices told me (and I listened) and they were right .... I trust the voices.

[The Singing Chef]

Perhaps lane splitting be included in the restricted test.

However ... blood is sticky enough. And once you see blood (your own especially) .... You will remember.

That could make for an interesting test, imagine the chaos when they get knocked off Yea lucky my leathers have always protected me from that, though seen a fair amount of other riders blood before. Not somewhere you want to be.

I use my spidey senses ... and the little voices in my head. My mind reading skills fade pretty quickly though. But they do eat into the concentration needed to stay upright .... so it's not that bad.
If you laugh ... (I did once) ... but considering the number of times the voices told me (and I listened) and they were right .... I trust the voices.

The voices in my head are usually David Gilmour or Roger Waters, and when the tell me to break down the wall, I would rather not listen to them.

[FJRider]

[QUOTE=The Singing Chef;1130283625]That could make for an interesting test, imagine the chaos when they get knocked off Yea lucky my leathers have always protected me from that, though seen a fair amount of other riders blood before. Not somewhere you want to be.

As I said ... your own blood has more effect. And you can leak from places your leathers wont stop.

The voices in my head are usually David Gilmour or Roger Waters, and when the tell me to break down the wall, I would rather not listen to them.

You're listening to the wrong voices. Perhaps the voices only come with age.

[The Singing Chef]

As I said ... your own blood has more effect. And you can leak from places your leathers wont stop.



You're listening to the wrong voices. Perhaps the voices only come with age.

Yes well hopefully I don't have do watch the blood flow out of me from a bike accident, had it from stabbings before but that's kinda the last thing you think of.

How can they be the wrong voices? They are absolute legends! But no, I do know of this "voice" you speak of and it is something to be listened to, just like the intuition before you go for a ride that you should probably stay at home.

[FJRider]

Yes well hopefully I don't have do watch the blood flow out of me from a bike accident, had it from stabbings before but that's kinda the last thing you think of.

It often is the last thing you see ...

[The Singing Chef]

It often is the last thing you see ...

You're full of joy aren't you? Mind you, considering the thread topic...

[Berries]

You really think anyone who is lanesplitting isn't aware that they are taking a major risk? Of course I am aware of that I made my decision. this time I came out on the wrong side of that risk.

I guess when it all turns to shit you have to look at it from the car drivers side. Should car drivers expect to have bikes coming between them and the vehicle next to them? Probably not. Bike not in the mirror, check the other side, quick check over the shoulder and then move over. Bang. You know that is the risk, as do we all, but can you really blame the car driver? All these legalities over lane splitting are just loopholes due to the wording of the legislation.

[MSTRS:Me]

I guess when it all turns to shit you have to look at it from the car drivers side. Should car drivers expect to have bikes coming between them and the vehicle next to them? Probably not. Bike not in the mirror, check the other side, quick check over the shoulder and then move over. Bang. You know that is the risk, as do we all, but can you really blame the car driver? All these legalities over lane splitting are just loopholes due to the wording of the legislation.

Repeated for truth.
The one thing that is a stand-out in the whole debate has not yet been mentioned. Until now.
Ascertaining that the way is clear.
That little gem applies to every moment of vehicular movement, but particularly applies to any vehicle that is beginning a lane change OR overtaking manouevre.
We might well berate the 'ignorant cager' for moving into our path when splitting, but is it really the cager's fault? The gap between two lanes of cars (moving or stationary) is often not great and a bike can be well camouflaged in the sea of vehicles visible behind said cager. Couple that with a bike splitting at 'stupid' speeds (and I'd put that description at anything more than 15kph faster than the surrounding traffic) or splitting when the traffic is flowing at above 50kph...well, I'd lay the 'fault' in any crash squarely on the biker.

[oracle]

I guess when it all turns to shit you have to look at it from the car drivers side. Should car drivers expect to have bikes coming between them and the vehicle next to them? Probably not. Bike not in the mirror, check the other side, quick check over the shoulder and then move over. Bang. You know that is the risk, as do we all, but can you really blame the car driver? All these legalities over lane splitting are just loopholes due to the wording of the legislation.

It's not that I don't agree with you, but if I can get my bike fixed without paying for it I am going to

[PrincessBandit]

..... A motorway is not a good place to practice your skills .....

True words.
We all know there's a first time for trying everything, even lane splitting on a motorway, but keen awareness (of the entire bubble around you - yes, including behind to be cognisant of other riders splitting behind you) is essential. It can be highly risky depending on multiple factors and quite honestly the OP should just be thankful she got off with minimal injury and cough up if insurance doesn't pay for her risk taking.

Sorry to sound blunt over that, but lane splitting is hardly "I didn't contribute to any part of the incident" material.

[willytheekid]

..Damn theres some preachy buggers on here!

"A motorcycle may overtake a vehicle on the right within the same lane if it is safe to do so. The traffic must be stationary or slow-moving and the way ahead must be clear. A motorcycle may overtake a vehicle on the left only if that vehicle is stationary or if it is turning right.

If high speed was involved, then the police would consider charges such as careless or even dangerous driving."

-Thats the law as it stands!

If you want to lane split...do it bloody carefully and slowly! (Not at mark 9!)

Personally...I lane split!...but only on roads I know well, and usually at 30kph past "stationary" traffic (or if its crawling along at less than 30kph...and even THAT is technically illegal!...naughty me lol)

Ride safe everyone

[Tigadee]

Fuck I'm a retarded, gay, pastey, black, jewish, Honda rider.
it.

I find your choice of the word "pastey" offensive...