More cyclists moaning about car drivers

[imdying]

Or this: http://road.cc/content/news/70594-ab...s-aa-presidentIncorrect. Motorcycle exhaust gases are worse for the environment than cars (in general). We still require roads, police, traffic lights, petrol, air, oil, grease, parking, blah blah blah.

It does however match the other 3 criteria, so then I should only have to pay 25% of it...

[iYRe]

Ah yes, the inconvenient 'truth' of man made climate change; that ranks highly in the piss weak fall-back argument category. Not quite sure what that second bit is about, but if you change petrol to petrol/calories it applies to pedlies as well, is that what you meant?

You should never assume anything.. It's a fact regardless of whether it has any effect on climate change (it doesnt).

[bogan]

You should never assume anything.. It's a fact regardless of whether it has any effect on climate change (it doesnt).

So you were trying to tell us pedlies don't require roads then?

How do they figure out which is worse if they don't evaluate the effect of exhaust gases on the climate? Do they go on what smells worse?

[Fast Eddie]

no one wears lycra any more..

yea they do.. cyclists.

take a jaunt through back roads of tai tapu or over the port hills etc.. cashmere suburb.

full of lycra jockeys in large groups riding 2/3 abreast apparantly deep in conversation and oblivious to any cars stuck behind them or other road users.

I have a pushbike but I'll be damned if I ride it. Its there just as a reminder of what I would be forced to do if I speed too much on the motorbike and lose my licence. Should prob buy a bus too. same reason.

[iYRe]

So you were trying to tell us pedlies don't require roads then?

Yes.

How do they figure out which is worse if they don't evaluate the effect of exhaust gases on the climate? Do they go on what smells worse?

They stick an exhaust gas measuring device in and measure the contents.

[iYRe]

yea they do.. cyclists.

take a jaunt through back roads of tai tapu or over the port hills etc.. cashmere suburb.

full of lycra jockeys in large groups riding 2/3 abreast apparantly deep in conversation and oblivious to any cars stuck behind them or other road users.

I have a pushbike but I'll be damned if I ride it. Its there just as a reminder of what I would be forced to do if I speed too much on the motorbike and lose my licence. Should prob buy a bus too. same reason.

Perhaps your south island cyclists are still in the 80's.. like the rest of you.

[bogan]

Yes.

Hahahaha, considering their tyres have a section about the same size as my thumb, what else would you propose they ride on?

They stick an exhaust gas measuring device in and measure the contents.

And who decides what contents are bad? that'll be the climate change scientists won't it?

[iYRe]

Hahahaha, considering their tyres have a section about the same size as my thumb, what else would you propose they ride on?

Anything we want..

And who decides what contents are bad? that'll be the climate change scientists won't it?

Yes.. ok.. we get the idea.. you hate climate change scientists.. so do I. Its irrelevant.. move on.

[bogan]

Anything we want..

Yes.. ok.. we get the idea.. you hate climate change scientists.. so do I. Its irrelevant.. move on.

Ah, you must be being deliberately obtuse. Nobody could be this stupid whilst still able to operate a computer.

[iYRe]

Ah, you must be being deliberately obtuse. Nobody could be this stupid whilst still able to operate a computer.

I'm not the one bleating on irrelevantly about climate scientists.. you're the only one who cares about them.. I dont care what they think, havent consulted them, dont want to... dont need to. Get over it.

[bogan]

I'm not the one bleating on irrelevantly about climate scientists.. you're the only one who cares about them.. I dont care what they think, havent consulted them, dont want to... dont need to. Get over it.

Your point was motorycles are worse for the environment, and this effect is established by measuring what comes out of the exhaust. How do you know the compounds measured to be higher in motorcycle exhausts than cars are worse for the environment? I would say that answer is very relevant for you to maintain your holier-than-thou cyclist approach; which you probably prefer to what is currently looking like a stupider-than-thou cyclist approach, but the later is hardly surprising coming from one who choses a slower and less comfortable transportation method.

[Berries]

Perhaps your south island cyclists are still in the 80's.. like the rest of you.

Yes well, we all know why you Aucklanders like riding in cullotes with the tight cuffs don't we.

[iYRe]

Your point was motorycles are worse for the environment, and this effect is established by measuring what comes out of the exhaust. How do you know the compounds measured to be higher in motorcycle exhausts than cars are worse for the environment? I would say that answer is very relevant for you to maintain your holier-than-thou cyclist approach; which you probably prefer to what is currently looking like a stupider-than-thou cyclist approach, but the later is hardly surprising coming from one who choses a slower and less comfortable transportation method.

wow.. that's certainly an insightful analysis.

Let's see..
Exhausts emit gases. We can measure the gases and how much there are. We can therefore determine if one type of vehicle emits more of a certain type of gas (motorcycles emit less c02, but more of smog producing gases)
Ever heard of google? Perhaps not.. if not.. go to the local library, I am sure there is one in the manuwatu somewhere, and read some books on it, like the rest of us.

[bogan]

but more of smog producing gases

and how did they decide these were worse than CO2?

[SPman]

Bloody backward NZ. We can ride our bikes from one side of Perth to the other and for a 50km stretch of coast and barely have to set wheels on a road, except when crossing one. A great system of ever expanding cycleways which follow the rail lines, river shore and coast. Mind you, bloody pedestrians are a pain in the arse, walking 2-3 abreast, not getting out of the way, swerving when you least expect it! And it's fun splitting when you go through the centre of town......