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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    So as I said in one of my posts earlier .. if I said "I do not wish to take part in your survey ... can I go now .. ??" ... I'd be correct .. ???

    And ... if the officer insisted I answer his questions ... ????
    Farkin ell........

    you said whatttt????? And be correct???? Fark.....take your medication

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Wouldn't it be great if we just rode motorcycles because they have two wheels?
    Wash your mouth - what would the general public think if that got out there, good grief there could be people who have never ridden who start thinking about two wheels. Motorcycles could start selling in numbers again, bike shops reopening all over the country as Joe Public takes to this concept of 'two wheels are OK', Jesus man, Councils might have to rethink motorcycle parking in the CBD. Shit local business people may consider making NZ made riding gear.
    Government may have to properly reassess ACC charges. And worst possible case, the NZ importers of motorcycles and motorcycling associated consumables may be so overwhelmed at the volume that are having to supply they may be forced to lower their prices to something considered 'reasonable'.

    No Sir, that idea of yours goes beyond palatable. Best Joe Public remains ignorant to the joys of two wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berg View Post
    Personally I haven't seen or heard anything about this here in Wgtn but what I did notice while traveling round the Waikato was the abundance of signs targeted at bikers. You know, the road is not a racetrack, don't get in drivers blind spots yadda yadda yadda. What I DIDN'T see were the signs saying "oi, drivers, take a second bloody look for bikes" etc.

    It would seem we bikers are going to be under a bit of pressure for a while especially in the "killing zone" also known as Waikato especially after the last months mishaps which cost a few lives and injured several others.

    I spoke with several riders while on my 20 day working trip none of which received a ticket or lecture from me. Most were actually bloody pleasant and just happy to have a yack and also happy to find some of us cops also ride bikes and also get frustrated with the way bikers are often picked on.

    As for the gear survey, shit, if they want to ask sensible questions I have no problem with that at all. OK, even I get a bit annoyed when somebody who knows nothing about what they are policing asks dumb questions but I also temper that with the knowlage that making that roadside interaction can and often does find stolen bikes (and we here all loath scum sucking bike stealers) and also often finds unlicenced riders who very frequently cost us in ACC statistics which effect us all.

    Just my one cent




    I disagree with every single one of those signs. If you need a sign to tell you not to ride in drivers blind spots, the sign should just read "catch a bus instead of crashing".

    Signs which say "keep left unless passing" should be replaced with a cop who actually tickets people for this shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skippa1 View Post
    Farkin ell........

    you said whatttt????? And be correct???? Fark.....take your medication
    Post # 35 in this thread.

    Short time memory loss huh ... surefire sign your meds are playing up with you ...

    And I was quoting you ...

    Quote Originally Posted by skippa1 View Post
    Got ya google going aye......(I did say there were amendments too)
    still can't detain for a survey

    anyway.......as said way back, not going to debate it. You sit on the side of the road answering survey questions like an egg, perfect accompaniment for bacon
    They can stop you at random ... for NO reason at all .. NOW .. !!

    And with your license in their hot little hand ... and are you then going to fuck off from them .. ???

    "Safety" check or any other check (whats in a name ... eh). They want you to stop you ... they can and will.

    Don't want to answer .. Don't. .. "I do not wish to take part in your survey" is all you need to say. Followed by "Can I go now"

    DONE ... and you do if they say yes.


    Too simple for you ... ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Wouldn't it be great if we just rode motorcycles because they have two wheels?
    Absolutely. I started to ride cos it was fun. I wasn't rebelling. Do I stick to speed limits? Not where I think it's appropriate not to. Does that make me a rebel? No. Do I refuse/avoid education? No, although I will always question it's bias.

    sent from my phone (so scuze auto correct typos)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    they may be forced to lower their prices to something considered 'reasonable'.
    I... have a dream... that one day....

    sent from my phone (so scuze auto correct typos)
    "For a moment, nothing happened. Then, after a second or so, nothing continued to happen" Douglas Adams (1952-2001) - not riding a TUONO then!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonu View Post
    Until some dickwad unexpectedly pulls out of a driveway and totally flattens you.
    Ah but cant you read? Katman doesnt need ATTGATT, He's too fucking brilliant at observation and riding skills to be caught out by 'mere mortals'....

    All Hail the great God Katman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    If you ride around with your eyes shut you deserve to be flattened.
    All Hail Katman,

    the great God with the 'all seeing' 3rd eye.......
    If the road to hell is paved with good intentions; and a man is judged by his deeds and his actions, why say it's the thought that counts? -GrayWolf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    If you ride around with your eyes shut you deserve to be flattened.
    Silly me I forgot you are without fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrayWolf View Post
    Ah but cant you read? Katman doesnt need ATTGATT
    No one needs ATGATT, attitude and observation is way more important than any amount of gear
    "If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    No one needs ATGATT, attitude and observation is way more important than any amount of gear
    That's ok for you guys in the sticks, you don't have a million texting, phoning, Hip hop windows down, nose picking, noodle eating, makeup applying, lane changing, speeding, blind, deaf cagers , you just have some blokes on tractors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Post # 35 in this thread.

    Short time memory loss huh ... surefire sign your meds are playing up with you ...

    And I was quoting you ...



    They can stop you at random ... for NO reason at all .. NOW .. !!

    And with your license in their hot little hand ... and are you then going to fuck off from them .. ???

    "Safety" check or any other check (whats in a name ... eh). They want you to stop you ... they can and will.

    Don't want to answer .. Don't. .. "I do not wish to take part in your survey" is all you need to say. Followed by "Can I go now"

    DONE ... and you do if they say yes.


    Too simple for you ... ???
    At no point have I ever said don't stop......I just said you don't have to hang around for a survey

    yes.....yes you are simple.....some call it just straight out dumb

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    youre right of course. Motorcycling is obviously far too dangerous for anyone. It should be illegal.
    What the fuck are you on about? Nowhere did I ever say motorcycling was dangerous. All I said was that you have to look after yourself and to hell with trying to change the behaviour of others.
    "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)

    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending to much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)

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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    What the fuck are you on about? Nowhere did I ever say motorcycling was dangerous. All I said was that you have to look after yourself and to hell with trying to change the behaviour of others.
    relax tim. NOTHING IS SRS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulsterkiwi View Post
    Its a pity you have quoted me out of context, this must account for your being confused as to my meaning.
    Of course incidents involving only motorcycles will not be directly helped with that.

    If you actually read my comments and the entire thread you will see the discussion that had developed with Ratuscat was concerning the police being frustrated with high rates of serious incidents recently.
    I did read your entire post and the entire thread. If you were just referring to these incidents then that wasn't clear to me.

    However, my point still stands. Irrespective of how many other vehicles are involved there is only one person that you have any real ability to control - you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ulsterkiwi View Post
    the spate of recent serious incidents
    Therein lies the problem. This is a blip of no more statistical significance than any similar period with no accidents.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ulsterkiwi View Post
    That proposal would work best if EVERYONE (i.e. ALL road users) followed that line of thinking.
    But it only takes one to follow it to keep you safe.
    "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)

    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending to much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)

    "Motorcycling is not inherently dangerous. It is, however, EXTREMELY unforgiving of inattention, ignorance, incompetence and stupidity!" - Anonymous

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