The cheater MX85 argument. I might be changing my mind.

[avgas]

Scooters and monkey bikes are out. NZ has no problems with stinkwheels.
FXRs are not particularly old, still available, reasonably priced for their potential, plenty of parts available.
Isnt briggs and stratton a lawn mower engine? have you ever read the rules?

The B&S was a polite pun way to say "motors closer derived to cutting grass than racing bikes". As you could argue that rotax is technically a sports production motor or power-sports motor......so under those rules its out.

Not sure you mean by stinkwheels - motards I take it? If so good. They didn't a year ago. (Sorry they might have - but it was shunned). So hopefully that means you have lots of potential market with the TTR / DR's etc?

As for FXR not being old. It went into production in 97..........so its now 17 years old. I believe manufacturing for them stopped in 2006. So ever since then its been left-overs to assemble them.
Now 17 is still young for a bucket. But you should really be thinking about 5-10 years from now - considering it took the FXR a good 5 years before it was even allowed into buckets.
So the shear fact we are having this conversation - hopefully means in 5 years time there will be a new grade of bikes allowed in.

What you need to decide now - is should it be mx85's?

I will ignore the rest of your post. I like to keep NZ in a positive light.

Why were monkey bikes out? Would have thought they were relatively harmless?

[avgas]

I for one am dead against this sort of behavior. You can potentially and probably will have an effect on the outcome of a points race and thus the amount of points scored by championship contenders even if you don't actually get points yourself. Also this opens the door for others with marginal or outright not bucket legal bikes.

Just to clarify - are you saying that if you can't race competitively (i.e. to win the season), don't race in buckets?
That's a bit cold don't you think? Considering it is really and entry class (capacity/hp wise) to start with.

[jasonu]

Just to clarify - are you saying that if you can't race competitively (i.e. to win the season), don't race in buckets?
That's a bit cold don't you think? Considering it is really and entry class (capacity/hp wise) to start with.

No mate not at all. If someone on a not bucket legal but fast machine was allowed to race in points paying events that rider could and probably would have an effect on the other legal bikes points paying positions. If you want to race in buckets get a legal bike, there are plenty of options for all budgets.
BTW buckets isn't 'entry class' as you but it.

[husaberg]

AR80 ....... there are air cooled and H2O versions, the H2O version looks very much like an early MX80 engine to me.

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I had a look around and it seems to share very little (if anything) with the KX80 primary drive and gearbox all different ratios, stroke different etc......

[Kickaha]

No mate not at all. If someone on a not bucket legal but fast machine was allowed to race in points paying events that rider could and probably would have an effect on the other legal bikes points paying positions.

I've always thought it a bit dodgy,what if a guy on a illegal bike being allowed to run for no points crashes and takes out another competitor on a legal bike, that'd cause a bit of a shit storm

[jasonu]

I've always thought it a bit dodgy,what if a guy on a illegal bike being allowed to run for no points crashes and takes out another competitor on a legal bike, that'd cause a bit of a shit storm

Exactly.
Or dicing with someone who might otherwise be further up the field.

[F5 Dave]

Av in my last correspondence to you I was very rude and quite clear. 6 people. That's six individual people gave me rep for that one comment. Never have I had that support to any post in ten years on this forum. Fuck off and go annoy the motorcross fraternity with how you think they should run their sport. No one wants your opinion here. Seriously.

[F5 Dave]

My next post will blow this thread open. Have to wait till tomorrow. Photos included.

[Drew]

My next post will blow this thread open. Have to wait till tomorrow. Photos included.

You rode Glen's bike then.

[F5 Dave]

You'll have to wait stinkypants


BTW up to nine rep.

[Drew]

You'll have to wait stinkypants


BTW up to nine rep.

You can't add the rep from the second post, to the first!

[Pumba]

.....Never have I had that support to any post in ten years on this forum.....

Bullshit. 10 Green reps for this one http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...60#post1412460

fuck off and go annoy the motorcross fraternity with how you think they should run their sport. No one wants your opinion here. Seriously.

[Henk]

This has got me a bit keen, if I threw one in my Aprilia or the RS chassis and was happy not to score points would I be able to ride it in whichever grade I was quick enough to be in?

Nope........

[cotswold]

Nope........

I can take that as a maybe then?

[Henk]

You can take that as anything you like
The problem with running non legal bikes for no points is that as mentioned above they can get involved in dices with people that are playing by the rules and screw up their race.
We had similar issues with the combined C and F5 races which is why we ended up splitting them.