Yeah yeah, you're a hero.Originally Posted by Kickaha
Out of interest, how many hours did Greg put into making the GN motor...well...not a GN motor?
Ta
Yeah yeah, you're a hero.
Out of interest, how many hours did Greg put into making the GN motor...well...not a GN motor?
Anorak
Sounds retarded....................
Drew other than maybe the CBR150 have a look arround they are all based on old shitter's.
that's why it is an inexpensive (comparatively specking) class.
Where are all these brand new cheap late model 85MX engines going to come from.......
The current rules exclude the MX engines they always have.
A few people now are saying oh i want to just put in the engine and run them as i am not a tuner then they will not be that fast.......
They will be cheap...it's just for the lil jonies, etc
Then you waltz in oh f- that i want a late model one...........
Kinky is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole chicken
No8 Wire Extraordinaire
The point is they are so cheap to refresh they shouldn't be poked. The 80s that preceded them likely will be. 2010 is newer than any other bucket I can think of. I feel you are being harsh and unfair. I also know that yer a tight fisted winker and there's no way you'd be shelling out for something made this century unless someone gave it to you.
Don't you look at my accountant.
He's the only one I've got.
In the riders seat
No idea but it can't of been that many as he didn't charge much, I already knew what i wanted to do he just found a simpler way of doing it
"If you can make black marks on a straight from the time you turn out of a corner until the braking point of the next turn, then you have enough power."
Forum whore
Where HP is still being built out back in the shedThe most cost effective fun competitive class in the World!not brought.
Ta
Think what ya like, but there are two guys waiting to ride the bucket now, and I'd rather just bolt some pretty good motor in and tell them. "Have at it cunts".
Why Not???: MNZ975.
I totally agree TZ. but isn't some of the underlying tension (with some not all) around the pure fact that a Derbi (which are not common here in NZ) and $$ can make a seriously fast two stroke within the current rules.Where HP is still being built out back in the shed
not with standing the fact that the rider did/does a fantastic job , every-time he is out on it...
And people are spending money now rather than doing it themselves. two and four strokes.
Opening up a set of rules aimed directly at the 85cc (note nothing about changing other rules) is not going to change the culture of tinkering.
Which does mean the rules would have to be tight to start off with (shit I'm repeating myself)...
back to cost
I know that rebuilding a 85 would be cheaper than my TZR conversion/build; but hay what would I know...
Husa how much beer have you missed out on over the past 5 years? man you must be a real thirsty bugger by now....
hahaha too true
Forum whore
I am neither for or against them.If they are introduced as a stock or controlled category the controls could mitigate any advantage gained from the competition parts.
Most of the posters on here are posting as though the only bucket racing happens on kart tracks and are formulating their want lists based on their personal needs.
How would these engines go on a full track like ruapuna or a street race like greymouth or methven ?
I suspect the uptake would be fairly low, with FXRs you can buy an engine , buy the amount of tuning you can afford, get reasonable advice from any number of clever people
with 2 strokes its much more cloak and daggerand the clever people probably wont be interested in rebuilding stock engines.
For just a few thousand dollars more you can have a water cooled 100 with 10 or 12 more hp but uglier gear ratios.
Interesting comments earlier in the thread about aircooled 2Ts being too dangerous (in aus?) this sounds like its in line with some of recent history with the big hp gp125s and kes up north, would they finish a race at ruapuna?
I dont think having 85's would do any harm but they arent the magic bullet either
A few weeks ago I watched a srteetstock 150/ bucket race at ruapuna Matt and Al Hoogie were ahead of the rest of the field including the RG150's and KR150's by 3/4 the length of the front straight they were riding FXR and CBR respectivly, so the death notices of the diesel brigade may be premature
My neighbours diary says I have boundary issues
Forum whore
Drew do you actually race buckets? You sure have alot to say about them.
My neighbours diary says I have boundary issues
Registered User
I agree. That's why I asked about how they would go done there. I don't see them as a magic bullet either - just an option.
If someone spends the time/money that is spent on some FXRs that it will produce the same-ish result. While still being viable as a good engine without mods.
Serious question: would anyone use an air cooled 125 as a bolt in engine to race mid pack?
If it ain't smokin', it's broken.
Anorak
3 years on 27 July so f-ing heaps.......
On the plus side i am NF4 size now..........
Kinky is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole chicken
Ta
Nope. I have built one a couple times, but that's the fun in it for me. Rather do that and let people who want to ride them, ride them.
Highway Biker
I have never seen it every last a lap
Low personal B.M.E.P.
What's the old saying - an engineer is someone who can find a way of doing something for 50cents when it costs others 5 dollars...
(monetary units updated)
Air cooled 125's can work - how many on here were passed by Kev at greymouth ? And he won't let me get another easy 5 hp out of it...
We saw justin Grey at greymouth and BOB more than once - that was the sort of performance level you can expect to begin with if 80/85's come in.
Ta
It's done a couple full sessions, but not a good percentage of how many it's started.I have never seen it every last a lap
Still, ya get that when the challenge is to knock it out in a day.
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