Internet/Mana Party

[BoristheBiter]

You don't look very hard, do you?

I took all of 30 seconds to find a list of the 100 richest people in New Zealand.

http://www.nbr.co.nz/rich-list-2013/...e-wealth-order

I never looked. That's how high a response your post deserved.

[Akzle]

You hold your own ignorance ( and lack of the lessons of history ) in very high regard

you're right. every one is totally learning from history.
explain to me the last 3 recessions, please....


if i've learned anything, it's that old white gits making decisions usually fucks some shit up that was otherwise not fucked up.

[Robert Taylor]

A strike air force is not a lot of good for patrolling New Zealand's coastal and ocean area Robert. You do understand the meaning of the word 'strike' don't you?

In the event of an invasion, our Army would be our greatest asset as it would be guerrilla warfare that would become our foremost form of defense.

A 'strike' air force would be worth nothing.

A few shots fired by an A4 ground attack fighter across the bow of an errant trawler illegally fishing back in 76 / 77 had the desired effect. Where verbal warnings had failed. You never know when you need such capability and in an increasingly dangerous world who is to say we don't need at least some minimal deterrence capability?

[Robert Taylor]

you're right. every one is totally learning from history.
explain to me the last 3 recessions, please....


if i've learned anything, it's that old white gits making decisions usually fucks some shit up that was otherwise not fucked up.

Yes, unchecked speculative ( rather than productive ) capitalism allied with free spending Governments

[Akzle]

A few shots fired by an A4 ground attack fighter across the bow of an errant trawler illegally fishing back in 76 / 77 had the desired effect. Where verbal warnings had failed. You never know when you need such capability and in an increasingly dangerous world who is to say we don't need at least some minimal deterrence capability?

you're right. the nation should totally invest in a geostationary defense sattelite with lasers and shit. space defenses man, space defense. gotta be forward thinking about this shit, those errant fishermen are bad news, B-A-D news.
i mean, fuck, they might have caught some of your fish!!!! zomg nooooo!,
and then you couldn't sell the fish to someone as quota, no profit! and after that it's all down hill isn't it!

Yes, unchecked speculative ( rather than productive ) capitalism allied with free spending Governments

so you accept that the problem is the governments. who are mostly old white gits, and profiteers, who are usually old white gits (gews, too)
but,
somehow,
the next lot of old white gits is going to make it all better?

[Robert Taylor]

you're right. the nation should totally invest in a geostationary defense sattelite with lasers and shit. space defenses man, space defense. gotta be forward thinking about this shit, those errant fishermen are bad news, B-A-D news.
i mean, fuck, they might have caught some of your fish!!!! zomg nooooo!,
and then you couldn't sell the fish to someone as quota, no profit! and after that it's all down hill isn't it!




so you accept that the problem is the governments. who are mostly old white gits, and profiteers, who are usually old white gits (gews, too)
but,
somehow,
the next lot of old white gits is going to make it all better?

Hey I just saw a nearing middle age white Aussie git on the news who wants to cripple dairying and the communities that feed off it. He knows that the term ''carbon tax'' is unpopular in his country so he has repackaged its name as a ''pollution tax.'' He is himself an imported pollutant, just as toxic as the INCEST MORON party.

[R650R]

what you're advocating, if i catch your meaning, is a system chosen by old wealthy white gits, for the benefit of said gits (and especially gews), at the detriment of all else, to be enforced against all non-old-wealthy-white-gits.
stop me if you've heard this one before....


*i'll charter a ship, for you and the homeboys.

Nice Well said.

Yes but it would send out a signal that we are not freeloading off the Australians for regional defence, which we very much are at the moment. That the horror woman that we had running the country for 9 painful years got rid of it is a huge crime. Downscale the army yes, but not the Air Force ( or indeed the Navy ) when we have so much coastal and ocean area to monitor.

Freeloading is an appropriate word given that so many Kiwis subscribe to it. The infuriating thing about socialists is they are so convinced their way is the only way, when demonstrably it isnt. Gordon Brown is a notorious example of massive socialist failure, look at the mess David Cameron and George Osborne are having to deal with. Probably an even bigger economic mess than Margaret Thatcher had to deal with following Wilsons / Callaghans massive failure.

Spending a fair amount of time in the air cadets when younger and also previously wanting to join the Airforce I was gutted when Helen axed skyhawks. Now the teachers don't have to run their cakestalls, just spend four hourts on phone everyday to NEVAPAY trying to sort their wages...

But I've seen the light since then, really no offence to anyone involved but our airforce was a joke really in terms of practical offensive or defensive capability for a number of reasons.
Firstly if you are doing proper maintenance and training rotations you need many squadrons of aircraft to have an effective force properly mission ready. And tehn factor in combat losses after first few missions... A couple dozen skyhawks parked out back like tui crates waiting for a party is actually a risk to the crews themselves. You only have to look at what the yanks pour intot heir training regimes and they are still not invincible.

And who are we going to strike or stop from striking??? In a world of economic sanctions and treatys a nation bordered by oceans is not really at any real risk.
About the only real targets our A4's were useful for would be if your cousin Iti and co actually were running real training camps in Ureweras.

We've probably saved kiwi lives by ditching the jets as murphys law and stats we would have prob lost a pilot or two in training accidents or airshow disasters in the time passed since then.

If anything we could retrofit tomahawk cruise missles to out frigates for some strike capability but just as expensive as jets. I don't know why with our kiwi know how we haven't got into the guided weapons market and develop our own stuff. Our colonial masters in UK should be able to get us a foot in the door and we already have the GPS guidance chips with that kiwi company whatstheriname...

[Akzle]

INCEST MORON party.

yes we all read it the first time love.
It wasnt relevant then and it isnt now, but i bet gives your cronies a fine chortle, quite.

[ellipsis]

... oi cant seem to multiple bling Akzle...it's a fukn conspiwacy...Wobert, yer dweamin',
mate...

[Robbo]

Hey I just saw a nearing middle age white Aussie git on the news who wants to cripple dairying and the communities that feed off it. He knows that the term ''carbon tax'' is unpopular in his country so he has repackaged its name as a ''pollution tax.'' He is himself an imported pollutant, just as toxic as the INCEST MORON party.

Here is a pic of that smelly Ocker.

[Robert Taylor]

Of course the socialist pacifists on this forum miss an important point. Australias security is also our security. We were making an important contribution and playing our part in assisting that regional security by having a detachment of strike aircraft deployed in Australia. Prior to it being callously removed because of some shonky and emotive pacifist motive.

[Ocean1]

I don't know why with our kiwi know how we haven't got into the guided weapons market and develop our own stuff.

I got that.

http://aardvark.co.nz/pjet/cruise.shtml

[ellipsis]

...we do have a large and infinitely varied shape and size, quantity of pointy sticks, as a bit of a fall back measure...

[R650R]

I got that.

http://aardvark.co.nz/pjet/cruise.shtml

Oh yes old Bruce from Tokoroa, poor bugger has had his wings clipped by the bigwigs at RC planes nz/CAA or whoever they call themselves.
His youtube vids are great for RC stuff.

Of course the socialist pacifists on this forum miss an important point. Australias security is also our security. We were making an important contribution and playing our part in assisting that regional security by having a detachment of strike aircraft deployed in Australia. Prior to it being callously removed because of some shonky and emotive pacifist motive.

I'm no socialist pacifist but really come on, Australia is plenty capable of defending itself in the short term and heavy backup from USA wouldn't be far away.
And if anyone invades Australia it would have to be a major player which means WW3 and game over planet earth anyway...

[Akzle]

Of course the socialist pacifists on this forum miss an important point. Australias security is also our security. We were making an important contribution and playing our part in assisting that regional security by having a detachment of strike aircraft deployed in Australia. Prior to it being callously removed because of some shonky and emotive pacifist motive.

youre right. Since scrapping the whirly birds, the country has been taken over by damned dirty apes!

But also. The govt should totally tongue the ass of capitalist war mongering gews.