2010 ZX10 battery issues - Please help

**The End** · 1st February 2015, 14:09

Originally Posted by jafa21

So he is thinking for some reason the bike is not getting any fuel. I am thinking Glenn from Just fairings unhooked some fuel connection to the bike. It has been behaving like this only after Just fairings worked on it. It pushed started before I took it just fairings.

Any thoughts now?

Take off the fairings and investigate the fuel connection(s) then. Even if you find a leaky or unplugged fuel connection it still sounds as though you need a new battery.

**jafa21** · 1st February 2015, 15:31

Originally Posted by The End

Take off the fairings and investigate the fuel connection(s) then. Even if you find a leaky or unplugged fuel connection it still sounds as though you need a new battery.

I checked. I couldnt find anything that is disconnected. I am hoping its just a loose connection. I will probably take it to spectrum tomorrow if George from motorcycle doctors cant come over tomorrow.

**mossy1200** · 1st February 2015, 16:32

I think your bike has a tilt sensor that cuts the fuel pump. If you don't have a battery that's good then it wont reset.
With correct voltage and cycling the ignition on and off a few times this sensor resets.
Was the bike on it side at any stage lately?

Your going to need tell us what electrics you have connected from the harness if its anything more than the indicators.

**jafa21** · 1st February 2015, 16:35

Originally Posted by mossy1200

I think your bike has a tilt sensor that cuts the fuel pump. If you don't have a battery that's good then it wont reset.
With correct voltage and cycling the ignition on and off a few times this sensor resets.
Was the bike on it side at any stage lately?

Your going to need tell us what electrics you have connected from the harness if its anything more than the indicators.

Nothing is connected. Indicators and lights have been removed. Everything was disconnected except for the dash. Dash/speedo still works.

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**mossy1200** · 1st February 2015, 16:43

What did you do with the stand switch?
If it wont bump start in gear it could be the stand switch is preventing it starting.
Is the stand switch normally open circuit or closed circuit.
Does the fuel pump prime up when you have battery power?
Have you had enough battery to cycle the ignition on and off a few times.

I cant find a wiring diagram online for your bike that's free. Do you have one?

**jafa21** · 1st February 2015, 16:55

Originally Posted by mossy1200

What did you do with the stand switch?
If it wont bump start in gear it could be the stand switch is preventing it starting.
Is the stand switch normally open circuit or closed circuit.
Does the fuel pump prime up when you have battery power?
Have you had enough battery to cycle the ignition on and off a few times.

I cant find a wiring diagram online for your bike that's free. Do you have one?

I am not sure what was done to the stand switch. The stand switch used to work so that i couldn't start the bike if the stand was down.
Not sure about the other questions of yours.
Dont have a wiring diagram.
I think someone like spectrum will know what to fix straight away. I am gonna take it in tomorrow. Thanks for your help. Dont waste anymore of your time trying to figure out the problem. Your help is much appreciated.

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**mossy1200** · 1st February 2015, 16:58

Originally Posted by jafa21

I am not sure what was done to the stand switch. The stand switch used to work so that i couldn't start the bike if the stand was down.
Not sure about the other questions of yours.
Dont have a wiring diagram.
I think someone like spectrum will know what to fix straight away. I am gonna take it in tomorrow. Thanks for your help. Dont waste anymore of your time trying to figure out the problem. Your help is much appreciated.

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Assuming your racing this bike im assuming the stand has been removed that's why I asked about the stand switch. Trying to bump start it involves being in gear so if you removed the stand but didn't do anything with the switch the bike wont run.

**jafa21** · 1st February 2015, 17:01

Originally Posted by mossy1200

Assuming your racing this bike im assuming the stand has been removed that's why I asked about the stand switch. Trying to bump start it involves being in gear so if you removed the stand but didn't do anything with the switch the bike wont run.

Sorry forgot to mention. The stand hasnt been removed. Its same as before.

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**mossy1200** · 1st February 2015, 17:05

Originally Posted by jafa21

Sorry forgot to mention. The stand hasnt been removed. Its same as before.

Cool. Its most likely a good battery and cycling the key on and off will reset any errors the ecu has which could be preventing fuel pump from starting up or if the fuel pump unit is in the base of the tank it hasn't been plugged back in again.

**Edbear** · 1st February 2015, 19:56

Originally Posted by jafa21

I am not sure what was done to the stand switch. The stand switch used to work so that i couldn't start the bike if the stand was down.
Not sure about the other questions of yours.
Dont have a wiring diagram.
I think someone like spectrum will know what to fix straight away. I am gonna take it in tomorrow. Thanks for your help. Dont waste anymore of your time trying to figure out the problem. Your help is much appreciated.

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Spectrum has a great rep. Ask them about Shorai batteries too...

**nzspokes** · 1st February 2015, 20:09

Originally Posted by Edbear

Spectrum has a great rep. Ask them about Shorai batteries too...

Yeah my dealings with them has been very good.

**BMWST?** · 1st February 2015, 21:21

does the bike have a "reserve " or "prime" fuel tap position?.Try that just for kicks.May be a neighbour has a proper battery charger.Both of those ones you linked to earlier at 20 and 30 amp hour would be marginal for a big bike battery system

**mossy1200** · 1st February 2015, 21:59

Originally Posted by BMWST?

does the bike have a "reserve " or "prime" fuel tap position?.Try that just for kicks.May be a neighbour has a proper battery charger.Both of those ones you linked to earlier at 20 and 30 amp hour would be marginal for a big bike battery system

My zx14r only has a 14amp hr battery. Its most likely his zx10r has a similar size battery.
The 30amp hour charger I linked seems to handle mine and the 18amp hr battery I have in café racer ok.
It doesn't seem to take very long to bring the battery up to 90% then it seems to change function and slow down.

**jafa21** · 3rd February 2015, 06:04

Originally Posted by mossy1200

I could be wrong but I cant see it charging a flat vehicle battery
Contacting the tech advise would confirm this.
.

Tech support replied:
"The powerall deluxe model is sufficient to jumpstart a 12 volt battery for you motorcycle. The unit itself is meant to jumpstart the vehicle and not meant to charge a vehicle battery. "

**jafa21** · 4th February 2015, 12:06

Alright guys, turns out the tilt sensor was removed at the time of removal of stock fairings.
It is mounted on a big bracket which bolts to the bike.
The battery was also buggered. Couldnt hold the charge.
Gotta new battery and tilt sensor plugged and it all works.

Thanks a lot for your time and effort.
Never doubted your ability

Mossy mentioned it could be the tilt sensor...