Ticket for lifting front wheel?

[Jin]

Request full disclosure online then contest it. You might get off on a technicality since they didn't record the time. Otherwise let a judge decide if a slight lifting of the wheel is unsafe or not.

[Luckylegs]

Wow.....

you are a good boy, you bend over nicely!

what exactly are you so proud of?

Yep, probably am and i probably do. Big deal, im not sure what your point is. Perhaps you dont agree with paying fines in which case not sure why you didnt just say that and advise the op to fight the ticket.

[sidecar bob]

With regard to the causing annoyance thing. I spent about a year going out on a Friday or Saturday night with the local Strategic Traffic Unit (traffic cops basically). One night in Mount Maunganui we pulled up a bloke with a Mazda rotary that was making 108db & being driven in a fucktard fashion up & down a residential road. The cop was writing him up for the operating a vehicle in a manner likely to cause annoyance & he was arguing the point hard out. The cop said, ok, I'm going to take you to five houses, knock on the door & ask if you were annoying them, if even one says no, I won't give you a ticket. The bloke said, Na, just give me the ticket.
He's lucky he didn't get done for sustained & deliberate loss of traction, they can hang that off you for pulling monos too.
Next time, take a look around before pulling a mono through an intersection, if he didn't notice a cop car then what else did he miss.

[Luckylegs]

What's wrong with a lot of you ?

you think its ok to have to pay $600 for lifting your front wheel a bit....?

and if you think that is a bit harsh you are a soft cock..?

you sound like moaning precious wee Nancy's to me

trade your bikes in for a prius

or knitting needles....

tossers

Fuck me! youre havin a bad day eh? Did you catch the mrs fucking the easter bunny or something!!!!

[Oakie]

The thing that bugs him (and me) is what the fine was for and how it's totally subjective and such a bizarre reason and way out of proportion (imo) remember this is a small lift under acceleration, the bike was not high at all, definitely no clutched up on the pegs at 12 already travelling at speed kind of wheelie, I could understand being punished for that.

And can you really be done for reckless or careless for a slight lift? Especially with no traffic beside or in front of you, remember I'm not condoning this type of activity, definitely been a wakeup call for both of us, I just can't correlate the front wheel coming up a little bit to reckless or dangerous driving.

I guess it's a black and white thing. Either the wheel was up or it wasn't. It was up so some sort of ticket is appropriate. I guess the small amount of lift and that it wasn't sustained (for example, across a long road bridge ) meant that he didn't get charged with dangerous or reckless driving and potentially lose his licence.

[Oakie]

I think the guys name was China. It may have been a nickname.

Yep. It was his nickname (the guy that did the stabbing, not the victim ... I think). He was a young guy who had had a heart transplant a few years earlier if I recall correctly.

[awayatc]

Fuck me! youre havin a bad day eh? Did you catch the mrs fucking the easter bunny or something!!!!

Steady granpa.....
take your meds...
it's ok, young hoons getting properly dealt to....
getting just what they deserve,
how dare they riding motosickles in public....
just because you are so far gone you don't remember being young,
doesn't mean everybody else is equally demented.....

hows the knitting going....?

[nodrog:Me]

He didn't wave did he?

[samgab]

If I don't INTEND to speed ... is that a defense ... ???

Take it to court and claim there was no intent for the wheel to lift. Without proving intent the charge might not stick.

With infringement offences, there is no requirement to prove intent (mens rea). Different to criminal charges.

- https://www.msd.govt.nz/about-msd-an...w-zealand.html

- http://www.justice.govt.nz/publicati...gement-schemes

[FJRider]

With infringement offences, there is no requirement to prove intent (mens rea). Different to criminal charges.

Speeding is a Traffic Infringement. Lifting the front wheel would be a Traffic Offense. Slightly more serious ... but certainly not criminal.

[Luckylegs]

Fuck me! youre havin a bad day eh? Did you catch the mrs fucking the easter bunny or something!!!!

Steady granpa.....
take your meds...
it's ok, young hoons getting properly dealt to....
getting just what they deserve,
how dare they riding motosickles in public....
just because you are so far gone you don't remember being young,
doesn't mean everybody else is equally demented.....

hows the knitting going....?

Shit, was it a threesome with the tooth fairy... and you weren't invited. No wonder youre a little tetchy.

[PrincessBandit]

...

like i said if it was an accident, as you have tried to convince us it was, then he needs to learn to control his bike properly, as if this had happened when there was a car in front it would be one big mess.


OR you are just full of bullshit and pay the fucking fine and learn from it.

I think lots of people here would put it in the old "hey, nobody got hurt (this time) so what are you moaning about" basket. The standard comeback of most people when they get seen doing something questionable.
Personally I agree with you - if it was accidental then he needs to learn how to avoid lifting the front wheel on the road. If he wants to hone his wheelie skills then he needs to find somewhere else to "practice".

[Katman]

If he wants to hone his wheelie skills then he needs to find somewhere else to "practice".

Preferably not the Coro Loop.

[PrincessBandit]

Preferably not the Coro Loop.

Indeed.

I should have added "somewhere to practice that is not a public carriage way for vehicles or pedestrians " (thought I'd add the last word there for an extra explicit touch). Ooh, that sounded a bit creepy...

[Brett]

Why have bitching softcocks taken over this forum. When did pulling a wheelie become idiotic? I can ride a fucking unicycle. My UZ125 scooter is one of the easiest to wheelie bikes I've ridden. If you think pulling a wheelie is dangerous you better stay in bed gramps.

You're all so fucking high and mighty, live a little.

This forum is becoming pathetic. (Or has it already reached the epitome of pathetic)? I suspect that motorcycling has been overtaken by accountant and librarian 'sensible' types. Motorcycling used to be a bastion of freedom, expression and adventure. Half of you punks make it seem as boring as watching my Corn Flakes turn soggy in the morning. As for the cops enforcing a ticket, hard to say. If it was done safely and in the right situation, then that is ridiculous. If he pulled a minger in the middle of a high traffic area as the lights turned green, then the cop probably did him a favour (in helping to prevent him being fast off the lights and possible wheel fodder for a red-light runner).

I recall so many rides from KB where wheelies, while neither big nor clever, were a regular part of the days entertainment. I recall a certain member who cracked it open on the western motorway on his Gixxer 1000 with a mentally loud exhaust and wheelied at speed right past an unmarked cop car...who consequently pulled him over but then let him off any fine.

I bet that half of the chumps on here now would code brown themselves at this sort of carry on. Bet they are subscribers to the WorkSafe newsletters too.