My first poll for the NZ public

[Zedder]

See, that's the moronic sort of argument that people use when they call Greenies hypocrites for driving cars.

There is no argument. The use of the word filthy in relation to the money was in deference to mashmans apparent dislike of it and the info he supplied helps build up more of a picture.

But to a nasty, bitter cunt like you, something like that is just a "red flag to a bull".

[Zedder]

Sorry, not sure what your point is there?

See what I posted to nasty, bitter cunt Katman. Gadget1 and others are on the mark about him.

[Zedder]

If mine is slipping , yours is on a shinkansen

I don't give out red ... what I do Is call a spade......... a spade and post it here .

My coherence is fine , its your end thats broken ,

possible causes; Narrow mind , lack of education, reading was difficult at school ....

After spending a good portion of my life travelling. I can tell you , many people in NZ have the same trait....as in... I dont understand you, so YOU must be a moron.

I think you fit that bill rather well

Lol, from what I know of the guy he's none of what you've written. He just hates people who post crap in the way you do.

[bogan]

See the above wrt influence and money. With the financial system, they can deprive, and do deprive people of resources they need. There's no reason to stop the greedy from trying to exert their influence and get their way... but they should NOT be able to buy it. You can't drive in or live in every car or house at the same time. Consensus saying, "stop being a cunt and let people use that which you aren't". If further action is required, I'm sure society can call them economic terrorists and have them legally shot using their own laws.

What are bankers "usual methods"? Therein lies the answer as to chosen or coerced.

I see what you mean, but that is forced donation.

Usual method are to leverage debt, but said island didn't have any, so I'm thinking they convinced them with explanations and shared understanding.

It's not by force, it's by consensus. Society would deal with that fine... unless of course people decide not to work for the "owner" of the house.

Given that many financially related people will be without jobs and available to train in anything they choose without financial penalty, there will be more people to dig in... and I believe that the majority of them will.

The society forces its consensus onto the asset owner.

I believe many in other jobs will reduce their work output and/or increase their needs/wants. I know I would.

[Brian d marge]

Lol, from what I know of the guy he's none of what you've written. He just hates people who post crap in the way you do.

oh...... now that did surprise me

not



I notice that you also, quite happy to sling..... but never? post any constructive evidence ..

balls in both of your courts ( the last crap I posted was about the washed apples off to south africa .....)

go on then ......if Im posting crap

Prove it

[Katman]

See what I posted to nasty, bitter cunt Katman. Gadget1 and others are on the mark about him.

Fuck, you guys are going to run out of tissues at this rate.

[Gadget1]

Fuck, you guys are going to run out of tissues at this rate.

Do you need tampons every month? Most cunts do.

[Gadget1]

oh...... now that did surprise me

not



I notice that you also, quite happy to sling..... but never? post any constructive evidence ..

balls in both of your courts ( the last crap I posted was about the washed apples off to south africa .....)

go on then ......if Im posting crap

Prove it

What I actually PMed Zedder was: "That prick looks like he mostly posts when he's pissed".

[Brian d marge]

What I actually PMed Zedder was: "That prick looks like he mostly posts when he's pissed".

Guilty as charged and i still say

If i post crap

Prove it

Ball your court

Typed slowly and soberly for your benefit

[mashman]

See what I posted to nasty, bitter cunt Katman. Gadget1 and others are on the mark about him.

Really? I read Katman's retorts as, back yourself up or shut the fuck up. Hey ho.

On a potentially comedic note: Fuck dawg that was nasty and bitter, almost cuntlike. Interesting company you choose to side with .

[Zedder]

Really? I read Katman's retorts as, back yourself up or shut the fuck up. Hey ho.

On a potentially comedic note: Fuck dawg that was nasty and bitter, almost cuntlike. Interesting company you choose to side with .

As I wrote before, there was no argument. You need to stop reading so much into things mushman.

[Katman]

Interesting company you choose to side with .

Gadget, Zedder and Husaberg.

Maha will be along soon to join them.

[Gadget1]

Guilty as charged and i still say

If i post crap

Prove it

Ball your court

Typed slowly and soberly for your benefit

A lot better but ffs man, it's not even all on the same line, and what's with all the capitals?

[Brian d marge]

As I wrote before, there was no argument. You need to stop reading so much into things mushman.

No mashie has it nail on head

Very simple

If its crap

Point it out and back it up

Here , of the top of head are the last claims ive made

House and food prices in nz

Apple from britain off to south africa

And bogan to outline his utopia . . He may have done but i might have missed it

Oh as g and z are crap at anagrams and missed the joke

And anagram of brian dmarge is barring mead

Twas a hint . . . But one obviously flew too high over the cockoos nest

Any way Im quite happy to wait . . . .

[bogan]

Apple from britain off to south africa

And bogan to outline his utopia . . He may have done but i might have missed it

This may be what zedder and others have trouble with; you've left out the most important part, which is that the same apples come back after only (?) being washed and waxed; without mentioning that point it is just exports. And you didn't back up the and back bit other than showing that other people say the same thing you did.

I did.

Bigger picture, figure out a ways make democracy a whole lot less representative and more direct. I'd like to see the use IT infrastructure to allow citizens to vote directly on issues. Voters would still elect representatives to hold their votes (or a proportion thereof) to place by proxy if voters do not place them on their own account.

Smaller picture, ensure my own production exceeds my needs/wants by a great enough amount to support not only my family, but support others prior to them becoming self sufficiently productive so they can in turn support more. That support would be voluntarily given on a by merit basis. As that network expands into a sub-society the needs/wants can be filled more easily due to the culture of sharing/giving that is promoted.