Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[Katman]

There's countless doctors who will confirm that there's no link between immunisation and autism. Are you saying they're lying?

Are they basing their confirmation on their own research or just voicing their opinion based on what they've been told?

'Cos I'm pretty sure you'll find that Dr. William Thompson's claim is based on what he saw with his very own eyes.

[Virago]

Are they basing their claims on their own research or just voicing their opinion based on what they've been told?

'Cos I'm pretty sure you'll find that Dr. William Thompson's claim is based on what he saw with his very own eyes.

There's no greater "research" than vaccinating many thousands of children without any link with autism.

[Katman]

There's no greater "research" than vaccinating many thousands of children without any link with autism.

What about the few that might show a link to autism?

[Virago]

What about the few that might show a link to autism?

Children are diagnosed with autism at the time. Children are vaccinated all the time.

Correlation does not equal causation.

[Katman]

Children are diagnosed with autism at the time. Children are vaccinated all the time.

Correlation does not equal causation.

But what if there was a very rare gene that reacted badly to the MMR vaccine?

Wouldn't it be better to research that in order to eventually be able to screen children before giving them the 3 in 1 shot?

Those who tested positive for that gene could instead be given the separate shots spread over the previously used time frame.

Pretty much like Andrew Wakefield was recommending.

[mada]

But what if there was a very rare gene that reacted badly to the MMR vaccine?

Wouldn't it be better to research that in order to eventually be able to screen children before giving them the 3 in 1 shot?

Those who tested positive for that gene could instead be given the separate shots spread over the previously used time frame.

Pretty much like Andrew Wakefield was recommending.

http://www.cochrane.org/CD004407/ARI...ps-and-rubella



Why and who would spend the billions be spent trying to find a "hypothetical gene" that is not causing any problems...

When you go down the line of genetic testing for rare genes that are 1 per 1,000,000,000 people you will eventually get Gattaca. Yeah nah...

[Katman]

Why and who would spend the billions be spent trying to find a "hypothetical gene" that is not causing any problems...

When you go down the line of genetic testing for rare genes that are 1 per 1,000,000,000 people you will eventually get Gattaca. Yeah nah...

True.

There's no profit in that, is there?

And are you really suggesting that it's only a 1 in a billion chance that there might be a link to autism?

[mada]

True.

There's no profit in that, is there?

Well if big pharma was getting the $ from each patented gene test there would be.

[Katman]

Well if big pharma was getting the $ from each patented gene test there would be.

Dude, you should patent that idea.

[mada]

True.

And are you really suggesting that it's only a 1 in a billion chance that there might be a link to autism?

What are these "links" you are talking about?

You gave me a hypothetical gene, I gave you a hypothetical number based on a made up gene. There is across the board scientific consensus that there is no link between vaccination and autism. Why would doctors lie about such a thing when they would be the first ones to see such cases and "links"?

As someone mentioned earlier, correlation does not equal causation either.

[mada]

Dude, you should patent that idea.

Careful what you wish for mate

[Katman]

What are these "links" you are talking about?

Haven't you heard?

Some people think there might be a link between the MMR vaccine and autism.

[Virago]

But what if there was a very rare gene that reacted badly to the MMR vaccine?

Wouldn't it be better to research that in order to eventually be able to screen children before giving them the 3 in 1 shot?

Those who tested positive for that gene could instead be given the separate shots spread over the previously used time frame.

Pretty much like Andrew Wakefield was recommending.

And yet there's never been any research to confirm a link between MMR and autism. The "study" carried out by Wakefield (which conspiracy theorists cling to like drowning men) has been shown to be flawed, skewed - and fraudulent.

The anti-vaccine brigade needs to put up, or shut up. The "just maybe" approach doesn't cut it.

[Katman]

The anti-vaccine brigade needs to put up, or shut up. The "just maybe" approach doesn't cut it.

All you need now is a uniform.

(I'm sure you can adapt the punchline).

[mada]

Haven't you heard?

Some people think there might be a link between the MMR vaccine and autism.

I've heard... but all these people never seem to actually explain the "link", what it is based on, how statistically significant it is, the etiology, then the evidence.

Instead the majority base their argument on hearing of one discredited article.

By virtue of this argument I could put forward that with this paper http://img2.timg.co.il/CommunaFiles/50575890.pdf there is a link to vaccinations actually decreasing the occurrence of autism.