Thinking of getting vaccinated?

[husaberg]

Fuck off and find it yourself.

So i take it, as per normal, you don't have any actual evidence then, gee thats a surprise
It make this post all the more hypocritical

I have no problem with someone disagreeing with my opinion

Gremlin summed you up nicely

Free speech. Spouting crap.
Not the same and shouldn't be confused with each other.

[Woodman]

So what problems has this thimerasshole actually caused?

[Katman]

Because the CDC have actual studies that show it to be safe.

If you truely believe that, you should show the studies to Robert F Kennedy.

There's $100,000 up for grabs to anyone who can do just that.

[Virago]

I'm well aware of that.

But as I've pointed out many times now, there's a big difference between ingesting a product and injecting it.

Polysorbate 80 is used in vaccines to ensure thorough mixing of the ingredients. But it is also used in pharmacology as a means to transport certain drugs past the blood/brain barrier.

It's not inconceivable that it could be doing just that with some of the toxins found in vaccines.

There is no doubt that subcutaneous injection is a more efficient method of delivering the product into the bloodstream. But that doesn't mean that oral ingestion is 100% ineffective for the same result, otherwise oral medications wouldn't work. The suggestion that consuming a thousand times as much Polysorbate 80 via a nice bowl of ice-cream will not result in it reaching the blood/brain barrier is hopelessly delusional. and clutching at straws.

[Katman]

The suggestion that consuming a thousand times as much Polysorbate 80 via a nice bowl of ice-cream will not result in it reaching the blood/brain barrier is hopelessly delusional. and clutching at straws.

There might just be a reason why, in 2014, the E.U. prohibited the use of food colourings containing aluminium in ice cream production.

[husaberg]

I think we've established that the CDC believe thimerosal to be perfectly safe. are intent on having us believe that thimerosal is perfectly safe.
There are others who are not so convinced though.

So do you actually have any evidence at all that thimerosal is not safe or is it just one of your gut feelings like the shapeshifting lizards elvis being alive 911 and JFK.........
Because the CDC have actual studies that show it to be safe.

There is no shortage of evidence showing the toxicity of thimerosal.I'm sure you can find it if you're sufficiently interested.

If there is no shortage of evidence you will have no trouble posting it then.So post it or shut up.

Fuck off and find it yourself.

So i take it, as per normal, you don't have any actual evidence then, gee thats a surprise

So instead of producing the evidence that likely doesnt exist, You instead go on yet another Gish gallop.

If you truely believe that, you should show the studies to Robert F Kennedy.
There's $100,000 up for grabs to anyone who can do just that.

There might just be a reason why, in 2014, the E.U. prohibited the use of food colourings containing aluminium in ice cream production.

[Katman]

Did you know.....?

When testing was being done on the Gardasil vaccine (which contains a high level of aluminium) they compared it against a placebo which also contained aluminium.

They then stated that the side-effects of the vaccine were the same as the side-effects of the placebo - and therefore the vaccine was as safe as the placebo.

[bogan]

Did you know.....?

When testing was being done on the Gardasil vaccine (which contains a high level of aluminium) they compared it against a placebo which also contained aluminium.

They then stated that the side-effects of the vaccine were the same as the side-effects of the placebo - and therefore the vaccine was as safe as the placebo.

Not true, that one has been debunked many times. Are you just rattling off Ty's indoctrinating facts of the day now?

[Virago]

Did you know.....?

When testing was being done on the Gardasil vaccine (which contains a high level of aluminium) they compared it against a placebo which also contained aluminium.

They then stated that the side-effects of the vaccine were the same as the side-effects of the placebo - and therefore the vaccine was as safe as the placebo.

More selective presentation.

In fact the Gardasil trials used two placebos, one was the aluminium adjuvant, the other a saline solution placebo. This allowed isolation of any aluminium adjuvant side effects.

[Katman]

Not true, that one has been debunked many times.

Really?

I'd love to read it if you've got a link.

[bogan]

Really?

I'd love to read it if you've got a link.

Start with the journal article itself. If thats a bit over your head, see post #2934...

[Katman]

More selective presentation.

In fact the Gardasil trials used two placebos, one was the aluminium adjuvant, the other a saline solution placebo. This allowed isolation of any aluminium adjuvant side effects.

And am I correct in assuming that a saline placebo shouldn't exhibit any side-effects?

[Katman]

Start with the journal article itself.

Which journal article would that be then?

[Virago]

And am I correct in assuming that a saline placebo shouldn't exhibit any side-effects?

In theory. But clinical trials can elicit a huge variety of reported negative side-effects from placebos - called the "nocebo effect". Results are not of a yes/no presentation.

[Katman]

In theory. But clinical trials can elicit a huge variety of reported side-effects from placebos. Results are not of a yes/no presentation.

So if they determined that the side-effects of the vaccine were the same as the side-effects of the aluminium adjuvant 'placebo', shouldn't they be trying to figure out why an aluminium adjuvant is producing those side-effects?