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    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Did you miss the bit about their oil reserves attracting endless interference from foreign powers.

    Maybe if they were left the fuck alone instead of facing manipulation by external forces things might be different.
    The logic of the capitalist: The oil price collapses and Venezuela loses approx half its income. Nah, must be socialism ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    The logic of the capitalist: The oil price collapses and Venezuela loses approx half its income. Nah, must be socialism ...
    Norway is completely on it's uppers too. Must need more socialism!

    Maduro must stay!

    Everybody needs more socialism!

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbonhed View Post
    Norway is completely on it's uppers too. Must need more socialism!

    Maduro must stay!

    Everybody needs more socialism!
    Just as all right wing dictatorships end well?
    All governments that suffer from corruption fail whether left or right wing.
    What democracy does russia have now? is it right wing or left
    they hold elections like Zimbabwe does but there can be only one winner.
    The state might not own the factories and companies but is a closed shop of friends of the state who own and control everything including the media.
    its almost like Russia ended up the total right wing ideal where the rich few control everything and there is no middle class,
    Is that not the right wing nirvana.
    Nor does it end where the only food is MacDonalds the currency is a big mac and everyone ends up somehow working for MacDonalds on a farm, factory, bakery or delivery driver for MacDonalds.



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    Quote Originally Posted by carbonhed View Post
    Norway is completely on it's uppers too. Must need more socialism!

    Maduro must stay!

    Everybody needs more socialism!
    Sounds like Norway ain't the only one on the uppers. They certainly don't need more capitalism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Sounds like Norway ain't the only one on the uppers. They certainly don't need more capitalism.
    from the man that put the "Chav" in Chavista.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbonhed View Post
    from the man that put the "Chav" in Chavista.
    Scally... at least get it right just for variety sake ya Cuntree bumpkin .
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    I remember when Jeremy Corbyn was touting Venezuala as a proof of the Success of Socialism...
    Another total fuckwit. The damage he could do to the UK is unimaginable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Katman View Post
    Did you miss the bit about their oil reserves attracting endless interference from foreign powers.
    Maybe if they were left the fuck alone instead of facing manipulation by external forces things might be different.
    Isn't it odd that China and Russia - other "external forces" - are walking away from this? China is trying to get its "loans" back without collapsing the entire country (challenging, at best).
    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    The logic of the capitalist: The oil price collapses and Venezuela loses approx half its income. Nah, must be socialism ...
    Nope. They fucked it all up on their own.
    Socialism promotes capitalism, just look at the GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED of the dictators.
    The peasant classes get to suffer at the hands of the socialist oppressors.
    TOP QUOTE: “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Nope. They fucked it all up on their own.
    That's just stupid.

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    Socialism promotes capitalism, just look at the GREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED of the dictators.
    Exactly. It's a failure of capitalism. Glad you agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop
    The peasant classes get to suffer at the hands of the socialist oppressors.
    Exactly again. Socialism promotes capitalism. It's a failure of capitalism. After all, if Venezuela hadn't have been involved in the fall in oil price, they wouldn't have had to print money to deal with the shortfall. Money money money = capitalism.

    Go on, spin me another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    It's a failure of capitalism.
    Well of course. History amply demonstrates that if you put socialists in power long enough they'll cause capitalism to fail every time, followed immediately by economic collapse.

    All the more reason to shoot the greedy cunts on sight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Well of course. History amply demonstrates that if you put socialists in power long enough they'll cause capitalism to fail every time, followed immediately by economic collapse.

    All the more reason to shoot the greedy cunts on sight.
    And yet the same thing happens when the libertarian/neoliberal/liberal/dictatorship/rational anarchists (still makes me laugh) etc... are in power. The failure is entirely capitalisms. It is a mathematical certainty. Unless you're myopic that is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Socialism promotes capitalism. It's a failure of capitalism.
    Wrong. Socialsts' are humans who like to "have stuff" (food and clothes are high on their list, but that's another issue) so when they crawl up the ladder ("but everyone is equa"l I hear you call, even though Stalin states "some are more equal than others") they want things.
    That is a failure of socialism. Not only to provide the essentials of life, but privileges as well.

    So. Socialism = failure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    Wrong. Socialsts' are humans who like to "have stuff" (food and clothes are high on their list, but that's another issue) so when they crawl up the ladder ("but everyone is equa"l I hear you call, even though Stalin states "some are more equal than others") they want things.
    That is a failure of socialism. Not only to provide the essentials of life, but privileges as well.

    So. Socialism = failure.
    Socialists are capitalists, who knew. The failure is a lack of money that wasn't as much of an issue pre oil price crash. Capitalism. End of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    And yet the same thing happens when the libertarian/neoliberal/liberal/dictatorship/rational anarchists (still makes me laugh) etc... are in power. The failure is entirely capitalisms. It is a mathematical certainty. Unless you're myopic that is.
    Any governing ideology can damage capitalism, it's not a governing system, it's a production system. The outfit least likely to parasitise that productive system are libertarians. Minimum govt, minimum interference with personal choice and personal responsibility.

    But, y'know, every looser deserves their share of the loot, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Any governing ideology can damage capitalism, it's not a governing system, it's a production system. The outfit least likely to parasitise that productive system are libertarians. Minimum govt, minimum interference with personal choice and personal responsibility.

    But, y'know, every looser deserves their share of the loot, eh?
    Of course it's a governing system. Budget Constraint. lol@parasites. Earth Overshoot sees BAU consume 1 years worth of sustainable resource every 7 months. But by all means keep crying about how much power government should and shouldn't have. Capitalism is mathematically doomed to failure. All capitalists are parasites according to the data/evidence/facts/proof/direct observation/trends/forecasts etc... but yeah, keep on "earning" your way to death and justifying your contribution to the highly evidenced destruction of the planet.

    S'ok... you can close the other eye and it'll all go away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swoop View Post
    even though Stalin states "some are more equal than others") .
    Nope, that was one of the pigs in "Animal Farm" by George Orwell (although it was a parody of the USSR)
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