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    Laughing stocks get laughed at, it is right there in the tag

    Clearly there is not enough migrants left in Florida to get a plane load together, cry wolf much

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Laughing stocks get laughed at, it is right there in the tag
    Exactly. Laughed at, requires (at the very least), someone to look, listen and laugh.

    It's right there in the tag

    So when people have me on 'ignore' (yet can't help themselves to talk about me), are they looking and listening?

    What is being proclaimed, does not fit. However, if I am the herald of an Uncomfortable Truth, one that makes the Reader squirm with internal conflict between what they wish to believe is right and good and what they know to be right and good - well, then you would see people bury their heads in the sand and you would see people try to ward off others.

    And that explains the behaviour of certain individuals much more accurately.

    I also see Bill Maher (who I know you are a fan of) has been taking some more large steps towards the inevitable. The Question is - what will be the tipping point for you?

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Clearly there is not enough migrants left in Florida to get a plane load together, cry wolf much
    Probably the other Migrants realised that it's better to live amongst the nice Republicans rather than the racist Democrats
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Exactly.

    What is being proclaimed, does not fit. However, if I am the herald of an Uncomfortable Truth, one that makes the Reader squirm with internal conflict between what they wish to believe is right and good and what they know to be right and good - well, then you would see people bury their heads in the sand and you would see people try to ward off others.
    Most people just beat off to porn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    Most people just beat off to porn.
    As you well know, I'm not Most People.

    And the fact that you are compelled to keep coming back to this dance says something, doesn't it?

    Somewhere in all the words I type and all the arguments I put forward - there is something that if not in a literal sense, then definitely in a metaphysical sense, is True and that is what calls to you (and others) to come back. Time and Time again.

    And I know that you see Glimpses of it - when you say that you were "quite taken aback by the hatred in her voice and demeanor." - you know, deep down, that something isn't right.

    Same too with Bill Maher - when he touches the surface of something I've been saying is rotten to the core for literal years, that's another Glimpse.

    When Time, Inflation, Fuel Prices, Migrant failures etc. coalesce together, there it is again.
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    What do you mean procedure? What a pesky notion



    TBL, I was alluding to the fact your porn material is clearly a mirror

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    What do you mean procedure? What a pesky notion
    Again though, he's right. I'll even use a 'fact checking' site:

    https://www.verifythis.com/article/n...5-671dc9c6f7ec

    Yes, the president can declassify documents while in office, but there isn’t a set protocol they have to follow.
    So Trump is correct when he says that when President, he can unilaterally say 'this is now declassified' and it is. No Protocol. No Procedure. It's an Executive Power and therefore needs no authority other than the authority imbued on the individual when they become President.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    TBL, I was alluding to the fact your porn material is clearly a mirror
    Only when the Wife is standing in front of it
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    That appeals court decision was really rapid. Trump's lawyers submitted a 40 page appeal and it was smacked down hard the next day. Amazing speed.

    If a document is declassified by the president, every copy of the document whether electronic or hard copy would need to be noted to that effect. The file management systems would also need to be noted and every reference changed. That's a lot of work, for Trump to suggest he can do that with his mind is fantasy. To believe it is idiotic.

    Parts of that interview will likely appear in court as evidence because he is basically admitting guilt. I still don't know why he's banging on about classification though. None of the charges he's facing require the documents to be classified.

    That comment to the effect that he could send the documents to Mar a Lago "or whereever" is a worry. The obvious inference is that he sent some somewhere else. Where?

    The longer shots in Hannity's interview show that Trump must be wearing even larger nappies than he used to. Really, look at it. Hugh Jass indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    If a document is declassified by the president, every copy of the document whether electronic or hard copy would need to be noted to that effect. The file management systems would also need to be noted and every reference changed. That's a lot of work, for Trump to suggest he can do that with his mind is fantasy. To believe it is idiotic.
    You are conflating two things.

    It's not the job of the President to do the Administrative tasks that you've outlined. All he needs to do is say the Magic words "This is now Declassified" and *poof!* it is declassified.

    The President is not required or obliged to follow any process or procedure.

    That fact that this has been verified as true by left-wing 'fact checkers' shows how correct this is.
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    Not everyone agrees with that : No credible evidence has emerged that Mr. Trump issued any standing order to declassify everything he happened to take from the Oval Office, and national security legal specialists have greeted the notion with disdain. Glenn S. Gerstell, the top lawyer for the National Security Agency from 2015 to 2020, said the idea that whatever Mr. Trump happened to take upstairs each evening automatically became declassified — without logging what it was and notifying the agencies that used that information — was “preposterous.” https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/14/u...documents.html
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    The federal appeals court certainly do not share our residents magats opinions (small surprise) - 2 of the 3 judges appointed by trump btw, AND they sure gave Cannon the arse kicking she deserved. The speed of these judgements show they have trump on a fast track to the guilty chair.



    And, republicans have ditched any pretense at being conservatives, they are the party of fascism now. Biden was spot on with this one, check this shit out.



    And to add to the fun, Cohen is a crook through and through, which is why trump hired him for 10 years. However, as dishonest as he is, he knows where the bodies are buried and I believe he is accurate with his summations here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    The federal appeals court certainly do not share our residents magats opinions (small surprise) - 2 of the 3 judges appointed by trump btw, AND they sure gave Cannon the arse kicking she deserved. The speed of these judgements show they have trump on a fast track to the guilty chair.
    Hold up there hoss, we are (again) talking about 2 different things.

    Pritch is correct when he says that the accusation isn't dependent on the documents being Classified. However, the point I am responding to is that when you ridicule Trump for saying he doesn't need to follow a process... He doesn't. As President he can just declare something as declassified.

    The problem there is one of public perception - if the Documents are declassified (and there's a Memo that says they were) - then the care factor is zero.

    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    And, republicans have ditched any pretense at being conservatives, they are the party of fascism now. Biden was spot on with this one, check this shit out.
    I mean the Lincoln Project are known Liars. However, I know of Gab - I also know that many of the alternative tech platforms who don't choose to follow Silicone Valley's edicts in regards to Censorship curiously end-up with certain accusations.

    I mean, the Left would never fake hate crimes against themselves to try and make the other side look bad, would they? I mean - they wouldn't Spray Paint Swastikas on College Campuses to try claim Racial harrassment? They wouldn't pay a couple of Nigerians to put a noose around their neck and throw acid on them and claim it was some guys in Maga Hats?

    I could go on, at length, listing all the faked hate crimes done by the Left. Can you point to any faked Hate crimes done by the Right? Ones that recieved national or even international attention?

    Finally - as a refresher - you should see what the Intersectional and Black Supremecist movements have to say about the Jews... What was it the guy that came up with the concept of Systemic Racism said? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stokel...n_Adolf_Hitler

    I have never admired a white man, but the greatest of them, to my mind, was Hitler.
    The 'Alt-Right' voted for Biden, because they want the Race War that Intersectional ideology leads to. They aren't Right Wing at all, since all their claims are collectivist in nature as opposed to Individualist.

    Collectivist ideologies being rooted in Left-Wing and Marxist thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    You are conflating two things.

    It's not the job of the President to do the Administrative tasks that you've outlined. All he needs to do is say the Magic words "This is now Declassified" and *poof!* it is declassified.

    The President is not required or obliged to follow any process or procedure.

    That fact that this has been verified as true by left-wing 'fact checkers' shows how correct this is.

    I assure you I'm not the one who is confused. Trump said he could declassify documents in his mind. That is fantasy, to believe it is idiotic.

    All of which is irrelevant. Trump had no right to the documents, they were stolen property. Depending what he did with them, and "wherever" he sent them, he may be guilty of espionage.
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    One analysis I've read of the NYC civil case says that because Trump pled the 5th on pretty well every question, it's a lock for Letitia James. He did that they say because anything he'd said there could be used against him in the other cases pending. The lawyers representing him on this one should have agreed to a deal earlier to avoid the massive fallout which could come.
    If a settlement is agreed now, aside from the sheer size it would have to be, there would be conditions on the family not doing business again in NY.
    This one is going to hurt him - badly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumph View Post
    One analysis I've read of the NYC civil case says that because Trump pled the 5th on pretty well every question, it's a lock for Letitia James. He did that they say because anything he'd said there could be used against him in the other cases pending. The lawyers representing him on this one should have agreed to a deal earlier to avoid the massive fallout which could come.
    If a settlement is agreed now, aside from the sheer size it would have to be, there would be conditions on the family not doing business again in NY.
    This one is going to hurt him - badly.
    This is pretty much the picture. In a criminal case pleading the Fifth may not be used to presume guilt. In a civil case though it can be used to support an adverse impression of the person pleading. Trump using the Fifth over 140 times in one appearance creates a very strong impression. And it's not wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    I assure you I'm not the one who is confused. Trump said he could declassify documents in his mind. That is fantasy, to believe it is idiotic.
    If you listen to the full quote (which Sugilitte posted) he refers correctly that he doesn't need a process or approval, he can just declassify something, and then as a rhetorhical flourish mentions he could do it with his mind.

    There is no fantasy, since the point that was being made was that he has the executive authority to merely say 'this is declassified' and have it be so.

    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    All of which is irrelevant. Trump had no right to the documents, they were stolen property. Depending what he did with them, and "wherever" he sent them, he may be guilty of espionage.
    Hillaries Emails.

    Precedent has been set, by the FBI no less.

    And this guilty of espionage is as much hyperbole as the Nuclear documents was. Lies built on lies told by liars.
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