Bike down on 16, 23 March

[SixPackBack]

Well if motorcyclists continue to use it as their own personal racetrack, these stupid things will continue to occur. There are good reasons why real race tracks have all the vehicles going the SAME way, and why power/phone poles and fences cannot be found.
Was thru there yesterday and saw many 'temporary' kiwi motorcyclists 'at it'.
Wake up to yourselves.

Save the lecture dude, you do not know the details. 16 is open, wide, flowing with no supprises-it is in fact a great riding road that is well maintained.

I was just gonna say that. I went trough it 3 times in the last month , 2 of which i could have ended like that poor guy did today. I wish road inspectors were not just inspecting the good roads in remuera but actually did some real work and went outside town.

I'm so sorry for the biker.

You have to be kidding! 16 from Kaukapakapa to wellsford is one of the best stretches of roads out, and believe me when I say it can be taken at a speed that would have you holed up with "bubba in D block" for a very long time [that includes the 45K corners, at least one can be taken safely at well over 120K].

Mistakes made on 16 are NOT the fault of the road.

Condolences to the rider.

[The Pastor]

Is it on the northbound or southbound side of the road?

90% of the time, I'm only riding that stretch northbound.

its north bound, going down the hill from the lookout, its on a left hander the lefthander isnt tight but another left hander is immedatly after it.

[SixPackBack]

its north bound, going down the hill from the lookout, its on a left hander the lefthander isnt tight but another left hander is immedatly after it.

I can't place that spot, and that is a road travelled hundreds if not thousands of time. Is your suspension set-up well?

[TOTO]

Save the lecture dude, you do not know the details. 16 is open, wide, flowing with no supprises-it is in fact a great riding road that is well maintained.



You have to be kidding! 16 from Kaukapakapa to wellsford is one of the best stretches of roads out, and believe me when I say it can be taken at a speed that would have you holed up with "bubba in D block" for a very long time [that includes the 45K corners, at least one can be taken safely at well over 120K].

Mistakes made on 16 are NOT the fault of the road.

Condolences to the rider.

well my friend as a newbie I beleave I can brake my neck at halaf the speed you can. Agree about riders responsibility to read the road, but if it hapened on the place of the dip that for me is not 100% rider error. Respect to your opinion.

Still a sad story dou.

[The Pastor]

susspension set up? I have a 92 250. It dosent have adjustable susspension. but the dip is just big enough to fit a front tyre in. i'll see if i can google earth it.

[Ixion]

I've ridden SH16 thousands of times, both directions, since it was gravel.

The old gravel road, north of Kaucop used to have a few nasty bits, but they've all been eliminated over the years.

I don't recall anything in particular nasty nowdays. The usual stuff, bumps , off cambers etc, but no more than any other road.

There is one corner , after the lookout northbound, which I recall always wakes up my spidey sense , though I can't remember why. It may be the one Mr RM speaks of, but whatever it is , it needs no more than carefull attention.

Certainly nothing on that road that should cause a competent rider to crash in the normal course of events.

[The Pastor]

I've ridden SH16 thousands of times, both directions, since it was gravel.

The old gravel road, north of Kaucop used to have a few nasty bits, but they've all been eliminated over the years.

I don't recall anything in particular nasty nowdays. The usual stuff, bumps , off cambers etc, but no more than any other road.

There is one corner , after the lookout northbound, which I recall always wakes up my spidey sense , though I can't remember why. It may be the one Mr RM speaks of, but whatever it is , it needs no more than carefull attention.

Certainly nothing on that road that should cause a competent rider to crash in the normal course of events.

With all due respec oooooooooooooold man, you ride so slow the road could turn into on off camberd downhill left hander coverd in ice and be no problem with you.

Google earth is refusing to load. Oh well.

[Ixion]

True. True

However I suspect the real reason you notice that dip is that it caught you out once by sheer chance , and now you have a sort of mental target fixation. You know the dip is coming up , must watch out for the dip, don't get caught by the dip, where's that dip, oh shit. Happens.

If it's only a small aberation other riders may never encounter it.

[boomer]

there's a huge kick in the ass bump on on of the corners when you're coming down the hill.

Still.. NZ goat tracks claim another victim.

[jrandom]

its north bound, going down the hill from the lookout, its on a left hander the lefthander isnt tight but another left hander is immedatly after it.

I haven't ridden those corners in that direction thousands of times, like Ixion, but I wouldn't be surprised if I've been over them on two wheels more than a hundred times, at least, and there ain't no dodgy surface there, there just ain't.

It's a road, not a bloody racetrack. Yes, those downhill 45km corners require a bit of careful steering if you're not going at 'car' pace, but I would never have picked them as a bit of road that anyone should need warning about.

Unlike, say, that one decreasing-radius blind left hand corner just north of Kawakawa Bay heading back toward Clevedon that I always seem to end up dragging bits of Betty around the wrong side of the centerline on!

[The Pastor]

True. True

However I suspect the real reason you notice that dip is that it caught you out once by sheer chance , and now you have a sort of mental target fixation. You know the dip is coming up , must watch out for the dip, don't get caught by the dip, where's that dip, oh shit. Happens.

If it's only a small aberation other riders may never encounter it.

Hopefully they don't encounter it, its a bit of a wake up call.

I haven't ridden those corners in that direction thousands of times, like Ixion, but I wouldn't be surprised if I've been over them on two wheels more than a hundred times, at least, and there ain't no dodgy surface there, there just ain't.

It's a road, not a bloody racetrack. Yes, those downhill 45km corners require a bit of careful steering if you're not going at 'car' pace, but I would never have picked them as a bit of road that anyone should need warning about.

Unlike, say, that one decreasing-radius blind left hand corner just north of Kawakawa Bay heading back toward Clevedon that I always seem to end up dragging bits of Betty around the wrong side of the centerline on!

That bend is a total bitch, I knew about it but i was trying to keep up with a zx9r and through the twists was the only way i could over take. I was right up his tail pipe and followed his completely wrong line through that one! luckly I knew about it and as soon as i realised i hit the brakes chucked it in and over(under) took the bastard! hehe he had to come to a complete stop

[jrandom]

hehe he had to come to a complete stop

Yes, it can be like that sometimes eh?

I wonder if boomer would like to share the story of how he lost his 'That Left-Hander After Kawakawa Bay' virginity...

[dipshit]

With all due respec oooooooooooooold man, you ride so slow the road could turn into on off camberd downhill left hander coverd in ice and be no problem with you.

Isn't that the point? Riding at a pace that hitting one unforeseen bump could take your life, isn't actually terribly bright.

Motorcyclists are falling off the road all by themselves at an a alarming rate in NZ. It isn't other motorists fault or the road's fault.

[The Pastor]

Isn't that the point? Riding at a pace that hitting one unforeseen bump could take your life, isn't actually terribly bright.

Motorcyclists are falling off the road all by themselves at an a alarming rate in NZ. It isn't other motorists fault or the road's fault.

I dont disagree with you.

[Biggles08]

susspension set up? I have a 92 250. It dosent have adjustable susspension. but the dip is just big enough to fit a front tyre in. i'll see if i can google earth it.

I know the dip your talking about but I have to disagree with you...it is visible and manageable at a speed above the legal limit...if you are however riding at 10/10 of your/your bikes ability then you will run into problems with it...that is why you should never ever ever ride at 10/10 on the road...keep it at 8/10 max and this will give you room for movement in these unplanned circumstances.