Making excuses

**Bonez** · 27th March 2008, 16:14

Now Katman what would you do in this situation?

You are toodling along a back road come around a corner, low and behold there's a gum tree branch in completely blocking the opposing lane. Now this is a tight corner, no way a motocyclist is going to see said branch in time to stop if coming the other way.

**McDuck** · 27th March 2008, 16:18

Originally Posted by Bonez

Now Katman what would you do in this situation?

You are toodling along a back road come around a corner, low and behold there's a gum tree branch in completely blocking the opposing lane. Now this is a tight corner, no way a motocyclist is going to see said branch in time to stop if coming the other way.

laugh......

**MSTRS:Me** · 27th March 2008, 16:19

Originally Posted by mstriumph

you've hurt some feelings in this thread and i can't believe that was your intention

Oh yes it was. It is what he does.

Originally Posted by Bonez

Here's a suggestion for Katman. Organise a ride, I'm sure it will be well attended. Actually show folk how they should be riding, giving tips on situational awareness along the route, ie stopping and pointing out dangers (these stopping points could be selected a week or so prior), riding technique/style appropriate for open road riding. And maybe have a get together and a bit of a debreif afterwards. Failing that you could do it in conjunction with one of the other "organised" KB runs/events.

This'll also give you the opportunaty to display your photoghaphic skills.

Touching, Bonez... but you need to lower your sights a bit....quite a bit... No...a bit more.

**Bonez** · 27th March 2008, 16:27

Originally Posted by McDuck

laugh......

This is in fact a true situation I've come across while riding.

Well the first of two, the other involved a birch tree branch a week later.

Could say I'd gone out on a limb

**McDuck** · 27th March 2008, 16:30

Altho i would stop and move the branch (if i could)

**Badjelly** · 27th March 2008, 16:34

Originally Posted by Bonez

Now Katman what would you do in this situation?

You are toodling along a back road come around a corner, low and behold there's a gum tree branch in completely blocking the opposing lane. Now this is a tight corner, no way a motocyclist is going to see said branch in time to stop if coming the other way.

That's easy: ride as if there's a tree branch around every corner.

Well easy to say, maybe not quite so easy to do, but--believe it or not--I really do try to ride so that I can always stop in the distance I can see. To help me do this, I think "lawnmower":

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...er#post1457960

**Jimmy B** · 27th March 2008, 16:35

The way I see it is that KM is preaching to the converted and what he says is all blindingly obvious, over and over again. What I would like to hear is lessons learnt from his own experience i.e. more of the "how" or stuff that is actually useful. Unfortunately I suspect that this may not be in his repertoire.

**Mom** · 27th March 2008, 16:36

Originally Posted by jrandom

You just don't get it, do you?

Sometimes, even statements that may well be factually correct are simply inappropriate. Your wife, for instance, may be fat and have a hairy upper lip. You yourself may have, oh, I dunno... lost a job once due to incompetence.

(I'm just being random here, although I wouldn't be at all surprised if either or both of the above were true.)

However, my point is that nobody with the faintest degree of social grace would ever dream of insisting on bluntly pointing out either of the above to you, particularly in public.

You, however, have the gall to publicly spout offensive assumptions about the reasons behind Sean's crash.

To be perfectly honest, your conduct reminds me of skidMark and his frequent Asperger's-driven inability (yes, he really does have Asperger's syndrome) to realise when statements are inappropriate.

I'd be interested to know how you get on with people around you in real life. It wouldn't surprise me if you had great trouble making and keeping friends.

Randomness at its finest Sir! Well said!

Originally Posted by Katman

Why do I continue to do it?

I have no idea mate, but I think you should stop while you are losing, seriously you really should!

Originally Posted by skelstar

Listen to your peers Karmaman, you're a nobody. You've already caused me enough grief, find somewhere else to put your soapbox little man.

Grief is relative mate, dont make time for it in your recovery. Put this silly boy on ignore like I am about to do, and move forward.

**Number One** · 27th March 2008, 16:38

Originally Posted by sugilite

Anyways, check out Katmans post number 15, it perfectly sums up his natural mode of operation. This big noise on safety issues is a load of twoddle. He is a natural stirrer and I feel adds very little to this forum. It was very clear as I labored through all his worthless posts that he collects infraction points and wears them like a badge of honor, clearly it matters not to him and I feel MUCH stronger action needs be taken. He claims to know a thing or two about photography, but clearly he is only intent on belittling others sincere efforts, rather than actually passing on useful info as to how people may better their noble efforts.
Anyhow, here is that thread....
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...99#post1138299

Wasn't a fan of KM anyway but had a look and have determined he is just a troll...he is likely getting off on all the 'reactions he gets' and he is the first Kber to make my ignore list. Isn't that function great?!! I'm sure he is standing out somewhere preaching his ways but it's as if he doesn't even exist.....

hmmm peace and quiet.

**Bonez** · 27th March 2008, 16:41

Originally Posted by Badjelly

That's easy: ride as if there's a tree branch around every corner.

Well easy to say, maybe not quite so easy to do, but--believe it or not--I really do try to ride so that I can always stop in the distance I can see. To help me do this, I think "lawnmower":

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...er#post1457960

Wrong answer. You are in the clear lane. Please read the post slowly. Part of being a motocyclist is having consideration for other road users is it not?

**Bonez** · 27th March 2008, 16:50

Originally Posted by McDuck

Altho i would stop and move the branch (if i could)

Good for you. Bling awarded.

**Badjelly** · 27th March 2008, 16:51

Originally Posted by Bonez

Wrong answer. You are in the clear lane. Please read the post slowly. Part of being a motorcyclist is having consideration for other road users is it not?

Sorry. I was distracted by your "no way a motorcyclist is going to see said branch in time to stop if coming the other way." I would remove the tree branch (really).

**SPman** · 27th March 2008, 16:53

Originally Posted by jrandom

Unfortunately, KB Is Not a Democracy (tm), and as dictators go, Mental Pants is even less interfering and grumpy than SpankMe (if that's possible) so I doubt that it will ever happen.

As it should be.

If people want to hang themselves in a public forum, let them go right ahead.

Why should an official stop them - it only gives them another excuse.

**Bonez** · 27th March 2008, 16:56

Originally Posted by Badjelly

Sorry. I was distracted by your "no way a motorcyclist is going to see said branch in time to stop if coming the other way." I would remove the tree branch (really).

It's called a red herring